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softballrz

if things play out, the game of the year is wnec vs Endicott oct 29th.  winner should take it all. 

yesterday's win by Endicott over psu was the first for this group of seniors.  Congratulations! 

fulbakdad

Another win for Salve over MIT.  Nice Job!

softballrz

very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Yanks 99

Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
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Charles

Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

Yanks 99

Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

lewdogg11

Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.

This is spot on.  I've been agreeing with Yanks way too much lately.  Loser.

Yanks 99

Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.

This is spot on.  I've been agreeing with Yanks way too much lately.  Loser.

Hahaha...damn it...you are right.

Maybe we can sit down and have a beer and some chicken together...maybe play a few video games...say middle of the fifth inning of a close game?
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

lewdogg11

Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.

This is spot on.  I've been agreeing with Yanks way too much lately.  Loser.

Hahaha...damn it...you are right.

Maybe we can sit down and have a beer and some chicken together...maybe play a few video games...say middle of the fifth inning of a close game?

Only if they can join...


Yanks 99

Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.

This is spot on.  I've been agreeing with Yanks way too much lately.  Loser.

Hahaha...damn it...you are right.

Maybe we can sit down and have a beer and some chicken together...maybe play a few video games...say middle of the fifth inning of a close game?

Only if they can join...



Done...sweet...I'll have my people call your people...
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dlippiel

Yanks has been on a mother****ing role lately!  ;)

softballrz

Took many months, but we agree.  Thier can be only one!  The NEFC winner gets the NCAA bid.  Although I can't see higher then a six seed.  Also, no way does Endicott or WNEC host a game, each field holds no more then 2K.

lewdogg11

Quote from: softballrz on October 26, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
Took many months, but we agree.  Thier can be only one!  The NEFC winner gets the NCAA bid.  Although I can't see higher then a six seed.  Also, no way does Endicott or WNEC host a game, each field holds no more then 2K.

If Endicott wins out, I could see them getting a 4 seed and their stadium appears to fit NCAA criteria so i'm pretty sure that wouldn't be an issue.  If the Administration didn't build a new stadium to spec they are morons, but seating 2000 is normal.  I'm actually pulling for this to happen since I live 15 minutes away and would love to see it.  I could envision an Endicott vs. the NJAC winner.  Here's how I see the East Region bracket playing out:

1.  Mount Union
2.  Delaware Valley
3.  Hobart
4.  Endicott
5.  NJAC Champ
6.  ...
7.  ECFC Champ
8.  ...

With the NJAC going at each other in the last few weeks, they could play themselves out of the mix and only send a league champ.  Same with the MAC.  If Lyco or Widener knock off Del Valley, Endicott could be seeded as high as 3.  And if that happens, I think the MAC sends 2 teams.  IF DVC wins out, Widener and Lyco then have 2 losses which is a problem.

I'm anticipating Fisher losing to Salisbury which would put them in the 2 loss category.  If Fisher knocks off Salisbury, they would likely get the 5/6 seed with the NJAC champ. 

There's a lot of football to be played and a lot of good teams will have 2 losses.  But based on recent history, i could see Endicott getting a 3 or 4 seed if they win out.


Charles

Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 26, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
Took many months, but we agree.  Thier can be only one!  The NEFC winner gets the NCAA bid.  Although I can't see higher then a six seed.  Also, no way does Endicott or WNEC host a game, each field holds no more then 2K.

If Endicott wins out, I could see them getting a 4 seed and their stadium appears to fit NCAA criteria so i'm pretty sure that wouldn't be an issue.  If the Administration didn't build a new stadium to spec they are morons, but seating 2000 is normal.  I'm actually pulling for this to happen since I live 15 minutes away and would love to see it.  I could envision an Endicott vs. the NJAC winner.  Here's how I see the East Region bracket playing out:

1.  Mount Union
2.  Delaware Valley
3.  Hobart
4.  Endicott
5.  NJAC Champ
6.  ...
7.  ECFC Champ
8.  ...

With the NJAC going at each other in the last few weeks, they could play themselves out of the mix and only send a league champ.  Same with the MAC.  If Lyco or Widener knock off Del Valley, Endicott could be seeded as high as 3.  And if that happens, I think the MAC sends 2 teams.  IF DVC wins out, Widener and Lyco then have 2 losses which is a problem.

I'm anticipating Fisher losing to Salisbury which would put them in the 2 loss category.  If Fisher knocks off Salisbury, they would likely get the 5/6 seed with the NJAC champ. 

There's a lot of football to be played and a lot of good teams will have 2 losses.  But based on recent history, i could see Endicott getting a 3 or 4 seed if they win out.
Endicott holds 2200
WNEC holds 1500