FB: Conference of New England

[ExTartanPlayer]

I will go back to when they were 2-3.  I posted they were the best 3 loss team in the nation.  lol.

Might be a hint of exaggeration there (some teams started out 2-3 in MUCH tougher conferences), but I agree that Salve should be commended for scheduling "up" in their OOC games and I expect that it will pay dividends if they stick with it for a few years.  Does anyone know if they'll continue to play LL, E8, and NJAC teams in the future?  If so, I expect that eventually they will become the class of the NEFC.

[Frank Rossi]

I will go back to when they were 2-3.  I posted they were the best 3 loss team in the nation.  lol.

Might be a hint of exaggeration there (some teams started out 2-3 in MUCH tougher conferences), but I agree that Salve should be commended for scheduling "up" in their OOC games and I expect that it will pay dividends if they stick with it for a few years.  Does anyone know if they'll continue to play LL, E8, and NJAC teams in the future?  If so, I expect that eventually they will become the class of the NEFC.

Salve/Union is for one more season.

[softballrz]

Salve "Class of the NEFC"  This is a funny line.  Thank you for the laugh with coffee this morning.

Salve has had three coachs in the last 6 years.  Salve has no home field or pratice field and they play at the local middle school.  Why is this good for recurting?  Because the current coach scheduled out of conference games? 

[Pat Coleman]

RZ: He said eventually, and he even italicized it. If you spit-take your coffee, it's on you.

[Yanks 99]

Salve "Class of the NEFC"  This is a funny line.  Thank you for the laugh with coffee this morning.

Salve has had three coachs in the last 6 years.  Salve has no home field or pratice field and they play at the local middle school.  Why is this good for recurting?  Because the current coach scheduled out of conference games?

Wouldn't you want Salve, or someone in the NEFC, to become at least "Regionally" respected though?  Right now, Salve is pretty much the only school from the NEFC scheduling tough, non-ECFC, teams to make up their non-league schedule.  You take away Salve's non-league games against LL and NJAC opponents (Union and Montclair...two respected opponents by almost everyone) and your entire 16 team league would have only 3 total non-league games played against opponents that are not in the ECFC. 

Seriously?  Even including Salve's non-league games against Union and Montclair...the entire NEFC played 5 total non-league games against teams not in the NEFC or the ECFC.  That is an incredibly low number.  Honestly...do you really want us to get excited that you (the NEFC) as a league went 8-0 against the ECFC?

That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint.

[lewdogg11]

Salve "Class of the NEFC"  This is a funny line.  Thank you for the laugh with coffee this morning.

Salve has had three coachs in the last 6 years.  Salve has no home field or pratice field and they play at the local middle school.  Why is this good for recurting?  Because the current coach scheduled out of conference games?

Wouldn't you want Salve, or someone in the NEFC, to become at least "Regionally" respected though?  Right now, Salve is pretty much the only school from the NEFC scheduling tough, non-ECFC, teams to make up their non-league schedule.  You take away Salve's non-league games against LL and NJAC opponents (Union and Montclair...two respected opponents by almost everyone) and your entire 16 team league would have only 3 total non-league games played against opponents that are not in the ECFC. 

Seriously?  Even including Salve's non-league games against Union and Montclair...the entire NEFC played 5 total non-league games against teams not in the NEFC or the ECFC.  That is an incredibly low number.  Honestly...do you really want us to get excited that you (the NEFC) as a league went 8-0 against the ECFC?

That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint.

To Endicott's credit, they DID have RPI on the schedule for a few years, before RPI's recent struggles, but they took a huge step back this year scheduling when they could have used it the most.  An OOC win vs. a middle of the pack LL or E8 team would have likely done wonders.

I think Springfield would probably smoke them, but wouldn't Springfield make some geographical sense?

[softballrz]

"That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint."

As it was discussed here, knowing how Endicott was left out because of it's limited SOS would it not be possible for the NEFC and its two divisions to spilt and request a second pool A bid.  They have the teams and numbers required. This option avoids scheduling out of conference games and keeps travel costs to a minimum for the state schools.

Also, Salve is a head coaching starting ponit.  When a head coach is succesfull at Salve he is and will always be sought after by other schools.  When he is able to win with the restictions put on him by the school, just think what he is able to do with support.

[Yanks 99]

"That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint."

As it was discussed here, knowing how Endicott was left out because of it's limited SOS would it not be possible for the NEFC and its two divisions to spilt and request a second pool A bid.  They have the teams and numbers required. This option avoids scheduling out of conference games and keeps travel costs to a minimum for the state schools.

Also, Salve is a head coaching starting ponit.  When a head coach is succesfull at Salve he is and will always be sought after by other schools.  When he is able to win with the restictions put on him by the school, just think what he is able to do with support.

I am not 100% sure...but you are automatically assuming that once you break up as a league, that you would still retain even ONE Pool A bid.  Maybe you would...somebody smarter then me would have to chime in on this one...but there is also the possibility that you would lose the one Pool A bid for a few years while waiting for two Pool A bids.

Not to mention everyone (now throughout the country) would hate you even more for taking another bid off the table.

[Upstate]

Not to mention everyone (now throughout the country) would hate you even more for taking another bid off the table.

Everyone except for their first round opponents in the playoffs that is...

[Frank Rossi]

Not to mention everyone (now throughout the country) would hate you even more for taking another bid off the table.

Everyone except for their first round opponents in the playoffs that is...

Trust me, there would become a rule proposed concerning football-only and associate membership scenarios to eliminate some of the gerrymandering we're witnessing.  That's one big way to avoid increasing the minimum Pool A teams required for an AQ and to provide for more Pool B and C selections.  Go ahead, NEFC, let's see you force the system to change like that.

[SJFF82]

Salve "Class of the NEFC"  This is a funny line.  Thank you for the laugh with coffee this morning.

Salve has had three coachs in the last 6 years.  Salve has no home field or pratice field and they play at the local middle school.  Why is this good for recurting?  Because the current coach scheduled out of conference games?

82 remembers when SJF played Salve in the early 90's.  Those facilities were atrocious and sounds like they are the same ones.  We dressed at our hotel because there were no locker rooms for us and then after the game, which was at some mud pit in the City, with barely any lines on the field, we took a yellow school bus to literally some dungeon without windows in the basement of a grade school to shower....I think Jerry Sandusky was there....oops

[Frank Rossi]

(Too soon, 82...)

[fulbakdad]

Softballz, I'm glad the thought of Salve made you spit out your coffee.  You might want to keep some brewed cuz I think you'll be spitting more out the next couple years.

I found it funny that you were hitting on Salve's facilities.  When we toured Endicott, yes the home of your beloved Gulls, we thought the same there.  When the player that we first met prior to meeting the coach told us that the football team shared the field with mens soccer, womans soccer, and field hockey it raised the first red flag for me.  He told us about the 10pm practices because each team got shots at the best times.  And when there was a home soccer game for either team, well everyone had to wait.  Then on the tour we got to see the weight room, or was it a garage?  It was hard to tell the difference.

Salve plays at a local high school because when it was time to turf the local field (which was the Newports rec) they didn't want to have to share the field with all the rec teams.  So they found a school close that was up for a field upgrade and worked out a deal.  And the workout facilities are the ones used by the Boston Celtics in thier pre season.  You can be assured Kevin Garnett would never lift in a garge you know.

Endicott has had two good seasons.  And kudo's to them.  I actually defended them in a NH High School board a couple years ago when someone was saying how bad they were.  In the NEFC you can do pretty good things with a coaching change and good recruiting.  Both are happening down at Salve.  Endicott did well in bringing Mike Lane in from the Preps.  I saw him in his final public high school game for Medfield.  I was impressed and now I can see why.  But what happens next year?

[Jonny Utah]

Not to mention everyone (now throughout the country) would hate you even more for taking another bid off the table.

Everyone except for their first round opponents in the playoffs that is...

Trust me, there would become a rule proposed concerning football-only and associate membership scenarios to eliminate some of the gerrymandering we're witnessing.  That's one big way to avoid increasing the minimum Pool A teams required for an AQ and to provide for more Pool B and C selections.  Go ahead, NEFC, let's see you force the system to change like that.

I'm not so sure about that Frank.  The NCAA gave the New England lacrosse leagues everything they wanted.   Ithaca got hosed one year in a scenerio that would make softballrz spill coffee in his lap.

[Jonny Utah]

"That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint."

As it was discussed here, knowing how Endicott was left out because of it's limited SOS would it not be possible for the NEFC and its two divisions to spilt and request a second pool A bid.  They have the teams and numbers required. This option avoids scheduling out of conference games and keeps travel costs to a minimum for the state schools.

Also, Salve is a head coaching starting ponit.  When a head coach is succesfull at Salve he is and will always be sought after by other schools.  When he is able to win with the restictions put on him by the school, just think what he is able to do with support.

Living in Newport isn't that bad either though.

It says on the Endicott website that the Endicott coach lives in Auburn.  That must be one nightmare of a drive.