FB: Conference of New England

[dlippiel]

A pretty generic statement for a losing team don't you think? Dlip could apply that statement to most teams who come out on the short end. However, no doubt a great effort by Framingham State. Congrats on a great season and almost upsetting Cortland today. Framingham did the NEFC proud today, their performance cannot be ignored. Good luck next season!

[Dragondad]

Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley.  Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

[dlippiel]

Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley.  Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Classy words +k and congrats to Cortland on the win. Dlip doesn't think Cortland has much of a shot next week but believe him he is pulling for the Red Dragons big time!

[ECoastFootball]

Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.

[Yanks 99]

Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.

It seems fair to me considering they are almost stealing a bid from more deserving teams.

[lewdogg11]

Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.

It seems fair to me considering they are almost stealing a bid from more deserving teams.

Scientifically speaking, here is what is going to happen next year.  Endicott and Salve duke it out in the NEFC.  One gets the AQ, the other has 1 loss and gets a Pool C.  Framingham St and Bridgewater St go 10-0 and 9-1(in either order), both get Pool C bids. 

Get used to it.  Instead of our bitching about getting a Pool A and a Pool C, next year they'll get 1 Pool A and 3 Pool C's, and the following year 2 a piece.  Write that down.

[Yanks 99]

Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.

It seems fair to me considering they are almost stealing a bid from more deserving teams.

Scientifically speaking, here is what is going to happen next year.  Endicott and Save duke it out in the NEFC.  One gets the AQ, the other has 1 loss and gets a Pool C.  Framingham St and Bridgewater St go 10-0 and 9-1(in either order), both get Pool C bids. 

Get used to it.  Instead of our bitching about getting a Pool A and a Pool C, next year they'll get 1 Pool A and 3 Pool C's, and the following year 2 a piece.  Write that down.

All while never having to schedule a game outside of the NEFC, MASCAC, or ECFC...f'ing fantastic!!!

[ExTartanPlayer]

Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.

It seems fair to me considering they are almost stealing a bid from more deserving teams.

Scientifically speaking, here is what is going to happen next year.  Endicott and Save duke it out in the NEFC.  One gets the AQ, the other has 1 loss and gets a Pool C.  Framingham St and Bridgewater St go 10-0 and 9-1(in either order), both get Pool C bids. 

Get used to it.  Instead of our bitching about getting a Pool A and a Pool C, next year they'll get 1 Pool A and 3 Pool C's, and the following year 2 a piece.  Write that down.

Dear Lord, the NEFC gets a Pool C bid and now everyone's worried the D3 world is going to hell in a handbasket. 

Just last year an 8-2 St. John Fisher got in over a few 9-1 teams with weaker SOS and we threw our hands up in a collective hallelujah.  There's no reason to believe that this one bid for an NEFC team means that the 9-1 NEFC/MASCAC runnerup is a guaranteed entry in the future.  The last time an NEFC team got a Pool C bid before this was five years ago (and that particular team WON its first round playoff game).

Step down off the ledge, guys, life is really worth it.

[lewdogg11]

The point is that the NCAA is clearly showing that they have a hard time overlooking 9-1 teams.  The NEFC SOS is always decent because they play each other.  Their SOOS is non-existent.  Don't be surprised.  Sooner than later the 'East' playoff reps are going to be made up of schools that a 7-3 Fisher beats 63-7.

[ExTartanPlayer]

The point is that the NCAA is clearly showing that they have a hard time overlooking 9-1 teams. 

Really?

Last year, 8-2 St. John Fisher got in while a 9-1 Case Western team (who was actually 9-0 in-region) got into the playoffs - which was the right decision, by the way - and we all cheered.

This year, beyond the Bridgewater State fiasco, several OTHER 9-1 teams were left out (Ohio Wesleyan, Waynesburg) while 8-2 teams (LaCollege, Bethel) did get in.  If the NCAA was really that hard-up about putting in all 9-1 teams, OWU and Waynesburg would have made it and Louisiana College, Bethel, etc would have been left out.

I think you guys are wayyyyy too worked up about what this means going forward.  Yes, I think it's bad that Bridgewater State got a bid this year.  No, I don't think it portends the doomsday scenario that you all expect.

[lewdogg11]

The point is that the NCAA is clearly showing that they have a hard time overlooking 9-1 teams. 

Really?

Last year, 8-2 St. John Fisher got in while a 9-1 Case Western team (who was actually 9-0 in-region) got into the playoffs - which was the right decision, by the way - and we all cheered.

This year, beyond the Bridgewater State fiasco, several OTHER 9-1 teams were left out (Ohio Wesleyan, Waynesburg) while 8-2 teams (LaCollege, Bethel) did get in.  If the NCAA was really that hard-up about putting in all 9-1 teams, OWU and Waynesburg would have made it and Louisiana College, Bethel, etc would have been left out.

I think you guys are wayyyyy too worked up about what this means going forward.  Yes, I think it's bad that Bridgewater State got a bid this year.  No, I don't think it portends the doomsday scenario that you all expect.

It's not a doomsday scenario.  The year Curry got the Pool C, most of us accepted it because Curry earned it.  Outside of Curry, what has the NEFC ever done in the playoffs to deserve that bid this year?  NOTHING!  But obviously, on paper Bridgewater St was an obvious choice(I even accept this), but in reality, everyone knew they were not.  What does that tell me?  There is a way to beat the system, and teams are figuring it out. 

[Pat Coleman]

Next year the MASCAC would be eligible for Pool B only. And I'd be interested to see if Western Connecticut coming into the league from the NJAC could compete and knock off some of those top contenders.

Pool B is going to be alright in 2013 but will probably be tough in 2014.

[ExTartanPlayer]

One further observation on the Framingham State-Cortland game:

I am going to assume that the running back from Framingham State, Van Alstyne, is quite a difference maker and was the biggest reason Framingham stayed in the game with Cortland, if the box score is any indication.  Whatever we collectively think of NEFC football, I am impressed that they had a running back gain 227 yards and two touchdowns with NO passing threat to speak of.  Incredibly, while the kid did end up with 31 carries, you might argue that the Framingham staff's biggest mistake wasn't giving him the ball even more (considering that 23 passing attempts resulted in 56 yards and 4 interceptions).  Is it possible that Framingham could have won if they'd essentially abandoned the passing game and just tried to grind it out?  Anyone actually see this game who can offer some thoughts?

[ECoastFootball]

The point is that the NCAA is clearly showing that they have a hard time overlooking 9-1 teams.  The NEFC SOS is always decent because they play each other.  Their SOOS is non-existent.  Don't be surprised.  Sooner than later the 'East' playoff reps are going to be made up of schools that a 7-3 Fisher beats 63-7.

Just remember, NEFC/MASCAC is different than the ECFC. The team Fisher beat 63-7 is an ECFC team. When they played Endicott, the 4th best team in the NEFC this year, they lost 66-14.

[wesleydad]

One further observation on the Framingham State-Cortland game:

I am going to assume that the running back from Framingham State, Van Alstyne, is quite a difference maker and was the biggest reason Framingham stayed in the game with Cortland, if the box score is any indication.  Whatever we collectively think of NEFC football, I am impressed that they had a running back gain 227 yards and two touchdowns with NO passing threat to speak of.  Incredibly, while the kid did end up with 31 carries, you might argue that the Framingham staff's biggest mistake wasn't giving him the ball even more (considering that 23 passing attempts resulted in 56 yards and 4 interceptions).  Is it possible that Framingham could have won if they'd essentially abandoned the passing game and just tried to grind it out?  Anyone actually see this game who can offer some thoughts?

etp, good points, gave you plus one earlier so i cant give you anymore.  cortland looks like they were lucky to get the win and giving up 227 yards on the ground to van alstyne does not bode well for them this week against wesley.  wesley has a passing threat and can run a little, could get ugly if wesley does not turn the ball over.