FB: Conference of New England

D3MAFAN · October 20, 2014, 06:19:32 PM

Could only look at the stats this week due to being on Saturday outings with the wife, was able to check scores. Great win by WNEC, it appeared that after the 1st quarter they were able to come to their senses and was able to get some turnovers and put together some lengthy drives (not long), but enough to know who the better team was and appeared to be a good team game. I know Union is not the team it may have been a couple weeks ago or of the past, but it is still a good win for the conference as a whole. MIT handled Nichols as expected, which sets up for great evening game against WNEC this upcoming weekend, not saying that this is the de facto championship, but more like the beginning of a round robin between MIT, WNEC, and Endicott. Hoping for a great game this upcoming weekend.

jackson5 · October 21, 2014, 12:13:05 PM

Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 20, 2014, 06:19:32 PM
Could only look at the stats this week due to being on Saturday outings with the wife, was able to check scores. Great win by WNEC, it appeared that after the 1st quarter they were able to come to their senses and was able to get some turnovers and put together some lengthy drives (not long), but enough to know who the better team was and appeared to be a good team game. I know Union is not the team it may have been a couple weeks ago or of the past, but it is still a good win for the conference as a whole. MIT handled Nichols as expected, which sets up for great evening game against WNEC this upcoming weekend, not saying that this is the de facto championship, but more like the beginning of a round robin between MIT, WNEC, and Endicott. Hoping for a great game this upcoming weekend.

The next three weeks are going to be great. WNE-MIT. MIT-Endicott, then the potential NEFC championship game of Endicott-WNE on November 8th.

Boxer7806 · October 21, 2014, 12:13:21 PM

Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 20, 2014, 06:19:32 PM
Could only look at the stats this week due to being on Saturday outings with the wife, was able to check scores. Great win by WNEC, it appeared that after the 1st quarter they were able to come to their senses and was able to get some turnovers and put together some lengthy drives (not long), but enough to know who the better team was and appeared to be a good team game. I know Union is not the team it may have been a couple weeks ago or of the past, but it is still a good win for the conference as a whole. MIT handled Nichols as expected, which sets up for great evening game against WNEC this upcoming weekend, not saying that this is the de facto championship, but more like the beginning of a round robin between MIT, WNEC, and Endicott. Hoping for a great game this upcoming weekend.

Agreed one hundred percent. NEFC is going to be fun to follow the next couple weeks... the MASCAC... not so much.

jackson5 · October 21, 2014, 12:44:12 PM

I'm trying to find the tiebreaker but not having any success. What's happens if MIT,Endicott and WNE all go 7-1 with the only loss being to each other?

ITH radio · October 21, 2014, 01:55:22 PM

I believe for NEFC (maybe changed since the MASCAC formed) was H2H, then crossover games.

ECoastFootball · October 21, 2014, 02:09:49 PM

Quote from: ITH radio on October 21, 2014, 01:55:22 PM
I believe for NEFC (maybe changed since the MASCAC formed) was H2H, then crossover games.

Cross over game was the division tie-breaker when there were 16 teams and 2 divisions, not sure what the tiebreaker is no that there is only one division. Maybe Overall record or Points For/Points Against?

jackson5 · October 21, 2014, 02:45:35 PM

Quote from: ITH radio on October 21, 2014, 01:55:22 PM
I believe for NEFC (maybe changed since the MASCAC formed) was H2H, then crossover games.

the H2H is the obvious one, but with 3 teams all being tied, with loses only coming to each other, and no like non-conference opponents what's the option? Is it a margin of victory or do they just go to coinflips?

ECoastFootball · October 21, 2014, 09:07:29 PM

Quote from: jackson5 on October 21, 2014, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on October 21, 2014, 01:55:22 PM
I believe for NEFC (maybe changed since the MASCAC formed) was H2H, then crossover games.

the H2H is the obvious one, but with 3 teams all being tied, with loses only coming to each other, and no like non-conference opponents what's the option? Is it a margin of victory or do they just go to coinflips?

Definitely not coin flip. Probably points for/points against.

ITH radio · October 22, 2014, 10:06:25 AM

I went ahead and emailed John Harper, the NEFC commish. Will report his response once I hear back.

ECoastFootball · October 22, 2014, 10:35:55 AM

Quote from: ITH radio on October 22, 2014, 10:06:25 AM
I went ahead and emailed John Harper, the NEFC commish. Will report his response once I hear back.

Awesome, Thank You. I would give you +K if I could.

jackson5 · October 22, 2014, 11:11:14 AM

Quote from: ITH radio on October 22, 2014, 10:06:25 AM
I went ahead and emailed John Harper, the NEFC commish. Will report his response once I hear back.

Thanks. I could've sworn it used to be on their website but couldn't find it anywhere. The bylaws and constitution there only had information about dues and eligibility of players.

ITH radio · October 22, 2014, 01:30:39 PM

Courtesy of John Harper, NEFC commissioner:

In case of a tie, the following criteria, in priority order, will be used to break any and all ties. In the case where more than two teams tie for the championship, the following procedures will be used until a team(s) is (are) eliminated at which point, the process will begin again involving the remaining teams.

1.   Head-to-head results

2.   Competition within the Conference in descending order

3.   Overall winning percentage of conference opponents

4.   Results against common opponents outside the conference (if applicable)

5.   Overall record

6.   Coin flip

ECoastFootball · October 22, 2014, 01:32:55 PM

Thanks ITH

So what would happen if they all split, would be the winner of the MIT-WNEC game would go. Endicott would be eliminated for their losses to Framingham and Hobart, and then the MIT-WNEC loser would be eliminated for their H2H loss.

continental · October 22, 2014, 01:36:43 PM

or would Endicott go because their conference opponents would have a better winning percentage?

ITH radio · October 22, 2014, 03:16:26 PM

I think in either case the H2H to start doesn't work b/c they each have losses to one another. Not sure I get what #2 or "competition w/i conf in descending order means". #3 overall win % of conf opponents could decide it but it would be really close. This measure seems like it would actually help Endicott b/c their .700 would sort of "ding" WNE and MIT while Endi would get their .900s. #4 would be N/A in this case. I think #5 could knock out Endicott b/c their overall in this scenario would be 7-3. If that was the case, then I suppose you'd take the H2H of MIT-WNE?

Or just say "**** it" and flip....