FB: Conference of New England

[Jonny Utah]

man sully, you have some anger in you huh

[SullyMustGo]

I've seen the collegiate careers of so many players at Framingham get ruined because of this guy.  When the guy has only won 2 games out of about 30 why is he still there?  I want to see that program succeed more than anyone and it really pisses me off to see this happening.  Back when i was a freshman his goal was to become a winning program in 3 years. He called it his 3 year plan.  Now after 3 years he made tbe team worse and he switched it to his 7 year plan.  If he lasts 7 years there the athletic director should be fired for not caring about the program. 

[inthebleachers]

incomming high school gpa doesnt mean anything.  Ive used the example many times of the west roxbury high school player that had a 3.7 gpa and got denied at boston college....and he was their top basketball recruit!!!!!!!

The fact that BC denied your 3.7 basketball player simply means, that MOST of their kids at BC have GPA's that high and admissions just wasn't impressed enough.  The FACT is that the average GPA a school shows, means that's what they are getting ACADEMICALLY.  Whether or not admissions will cooperate with coaches is another issue entirely.  The better a school's average incoming GPA, the tougher is is for any student to shine above the rest academically. 

[Dan Iman]

Hey Bostonbomber, Your points are vwry well taken based on the usnews. But lets look at another stat, Mass maritime has close to a 100 percent job placement for their grads! Does usnews report anything like that for the other schools you have mentioned?

[Jonny Utah]

incomming high school gpa doesnt mean anything.  Ive used the example many times of the west roxbury high school player that had a 3.7 gpa and got denied at boston college....and he was their top basketball recruit!!!!!!!

The fact that BC denied your 3.7 basketball player simply means, that MOST of their kids at BC have GPA's that high and admissions just wasn't impressed enough.  The FACT is that the average GPA a school shows, means that's what they are getting ACADEMICALLY.  Whether or not admissions will cooperate with coaches is another issue entirely.  The better a school's average incoming GPA, the tougher is is for any student to shine above the rest academically. 

No Inthebleachers, what it means is that a guy like Elton Tyler at West Roxbury High school with a 3.7 GPA and 850 SATs is not as impressive as the guy from Roxbury Latin or Wellesley High school with a 3.1 GPA taking 3 AP classes and a 1300 SATs.  Colleges rank high schools based on a formula and can weigh GPAs based on AP, Honors, Standard or Basic classes. 

You can take math 1 basic all four years and get and A, or you can take AP Calc, AP Math 4 and other acclerated classes and get a B.  The latter student is regarded as better regardless of GPA.

Also in general a Newton North graduate is going to be regarded higher than a Brighton High Graduate.  And class rank is what you are probably thinking of, not GPA.  Many high schools weigh GPA to reflect accelerated classes with then computes into class rank.  So again, the student that has a B average in AP US Histrory, AP Calc, AP Chemistry, Honors English, and Music theory, the class rank will be higher than the student getting a B in Basic English, Auto Shop, Construction Carpentry,  Math 1 Basic, and Reading fundementals.

[Jonny Utah]

Hey Bostonbomber, Your points are vwry well taken based on the usnews. But lets look at another stat, Mass maritime has close to a 100 percent job placement for their grads! Does usnews report anything like that for the other schools you have mentioned?

Your right, Mass and Maine Maritime have some good programs from what I heard.

[MEMA76]

Not only does Maine and Mass Maritime have good job placement the possible money they can make coming out of college is extremely high. As for the GPA when at MMA's every week they have 4-12 hours of class that they have to pass. But they get no credit for them. With out including being in a military like program where they have to be up at 7 in the morning and ready to go in an inspection ready uniform. So really GPA isn't any type of rating they could take less classes and stop extra activities i'am sure the GPA would be much much higher.

[MEMA76]

How come no one i mean no one has noticed MMA yet 2-0  beat mount ida and curry and smashed MIT in a scrimage one hundred yard rushing average above any other team in this coference  against two good teams with a crap load of bad bounce they still beat down curry and mount ida (note second strings got to play in both just to give them exp) netheir this room beloved curry or mount ida could stop MMA's full back he ran over their lineman in dead open feild my picks put it as a close race for number one between fitchburg bridgewater and MMA this year check the stats

[inthebleachers]

Point #1- Whether by class rank or GPA, schools that want a kid with a B, or top 20%, or whatever are drawing from a different pool than the rest.  That's what makes them tier 1 schools. The point is, we have some decent academic schools in our conf.

I'm glad to hear some feedback on Curry/MMA.  Any other talk?

[63Center]

MEMA76,  One of the reasons no one has been picking MMA is that most folks base their picks on last year assuming that the team may improve slightly and so will everyone else.  Having said that Congrats to MMA for beating some tough teams.   It will be interesting to see if they can keep the momentum up.  Maybe there will be some new teams playing for the NEFC Championship this year.

[MEMA76]

Yeah i'am just saying when you make picks to post maybe their should be some more research . MMA was 3-3 in their conference and only lost 5 starters and gained their fullback from the year they rolled over every team for rushing and was one of the top teams in all of the NCAA for rushing. With all this info it makes me wonder why would some one put Mass maritime and framingham above Maine Maritime ya know.

[inthebleachers]

Who is this fullback from Maine Maritime?  Sounds like he is commanding some respect!

Is Worcester State falling off some?  Salve was able to ALMOST take the game only because of WSC mistakes, but that's an important part of the game: being able to capitalize on the other team's mistakes.  Is WSC making too many?

Speaking of Salve, how has Endicott dealt with the loss of Scott Peters to Salve?  He was EC's everything guy if I remember correctly.  Will it matter?  Did he help Salve against WSC?

What's up with Curry??

How long will Framingham keep Sullivan?  Is he somebody's relative or something?  Geez...

Bridgewater looks strong this year?

[Jonny Utah]

ok everyone on this board has to tell me what MMA is....is it maine, mass or both?  Im getting confused.

and endicott will win the nefc this year easily.

[Pat Coleman]

MEMA, it might also be because I think you're the first Maine Maritime poster EVER on the site, and this is our seventh season!

[Jonny Utah]

never mind I think I have it.

and MEMA better beat mt ida by more than that if they want any kind of respect.