FB: Conference of New England

[footballfan2005]

Just to set the record straight curry only played music during the first game. They still play music but only when play is stopped or timeouts.  I am new to this sight it seems to me a lot of people don't have their facts straight before they sound off.
   

Makes perfect sense... I was at the first game and it was total BS... i know that the coach has no control over whomever controls the radio... but the AD or a event staff should have realized what they were doing... I also threw it out there b/c in a big game the home team will do anything to get an edge... as most of you know i feel that EC will lose... but i like to see a fair game played

[Teck]

Fitchburg is unclassy, it's as simple as that. It starts with the coach, who players usually take on the personality of. I do, however, think that they do some good things on the field, but it is overshadowed by thier lack of repect for opponents. Bet they didn't do much talking after they got waxed by springfield last season.

 

Wow, Bomber backer, that's some hateful words to say about somebody I'm pretty sure you don't know. It's never an easy road from the bottom to the top, but there's no reason to make a comment about a guy you don't know. Point in case is that you need to do some thinking before you just start posting such obligatory remarks, grow up.

More importantly, Endicott & Curry coming up this saturday. Seeing Curry play against Fitchburg and Worcester State, and seeing Endicott play Fitchburg, this game is Endicott's to lose. Curry hasn't played like the Curry teams of old. Endicott on the other hand is a fast paced offense that could really deflated Curry's sails in the early going. I think Endicott should pull this one out. I know that Fitchburg would love to get a chance to get back at Endicott for ruining their perfect season. Fitchburg just has to be careful not to slip up and overlook a dangerous Worcester State team. Realistically, WSC vs. Fitchburg at the end of the year is going to be the biggest game of the year in the NEFC, a close second would be Endicott @ Curry.

[ctforce]

Nice post HERBTUCKER89.  It nice to see someone on this board that understands the big picture. 

JEFF, in regards to your post, HERBTUCKER89 is trying to say they are resurrecting the program from that dark period and doing a good job at it.  Lots of college football programs go through down periods with some being worse than others.  Look at Notre Dame.  I think its a credit that Coach Haverty recruited some players that could make a difference and brought them in here to build the program.  It will probably take a couple more years of consistency before all you non-believers will see that it is a good program going on up there.

In regards to the 9 games, I believe it had to do with scheduling restrictions that the NCAA put on DIII schools.  If I understand it corretly, conferences that have a championship game can only schedule 9 games as this championship game counts as their 10th regular season game.  Anymore regular season games would disqualify them from post season.  So, it kind of sucks in that you have to schedule like you're playing in that game even if you don't make it.  Anyways, I think this is the reason but I may be wrong.

In regards to coaches, I have give all the credit to guys like Coach Haverty and his staff that work full time at a regular job and then fulfill the full time position of a college coach.  How many paid guys does Curry have on staff?  3 or 4 I believe.  How about Western Connecticut?  typically a stronger DIII New England program?  I believe they have 4 full timers.  I woill go out on a limb ans say that most of all the powerhouses in DIII are operating with a full time paid & volunteer staff.  So when people blast the NEFC for being weak, look at the whole picture and see why these conferences are comprised they way they are.  These coaches do an excellent job and the players in the NEFC put on some damn good football games!!

The whole Fitchburg tailgate thing was out together to show support for the players and coaching staff for what they do on and off the field and also have a little fun.  As some of you can see, this has grown quickly and I beleiev has really helped the overall 'TEAM' concept.  I know the players and coaches really appreciate it and they are happy to do it at any cost.  Also, this group does a game day raffle and some fundraising in the off-season through the booster organization to help Coach Haverty fund areas of the program that he doesn't get budget money for.  Remeber its a state school.  I know some of these funds paid for them to play Western Connecticut there in 2004 ans to scrimmage them there in 2005 in an effort to play tougher teams to get better.  Sound familiar folks!

OK time to get back to work.  EC over Curry 24 - 21 in a late 4th quarter score!

[Bomber Backer]

Tech, you're right, I don't know Fitchburg's head coach. I am simply judging from what I heard and saw when at Framingham State. As a team I didn't think they had much class and I still don't. Its up to the head coach to teach the players how to conduct themselves in school, on the field, ect. To run a score up and pass the ball when up by 60 points is classless (thanks for correcting me HT89). Would anyone disagree? I understand that being a good head coach might be one of the toughest jobs in this country, coaches have and extraordinary challenge, and worrying about how players conduct themselves may be low on the list. The bottom line is that everything that happens on the football field is ALWAYS the head coach's fault, good or bad. A head coach has to see problem a head of time and correct them before they happen. I am not trying to knock this head coach, judging by the records he has done some amazing things at Fitchburg State. I am saying that sportsmanship is what college athletics is all about, and coaches need to emphasize this. Players are working hard to accomplish a goal together, and when a coach decides he wants to embarrass an opponent by running up the score 75-0, it is a classless act. I also understand that Sully and Haverty have some history, perhaps bad history with each other, maybe that had to do with the score getting run up. The more I think about it I can't blame the Fitchburg players, they are just doing what they are coached to do. I may be wrong because I have only seen Fitchburg State the few times I competed against them, maybe the rest of the league feels differently.

[gullgrad]

" To pass the ball when up by 60"

Bomber, I went to the FSC website (Which is awful, great stats, but man, no pictures, no info on the coach, man it is really boring), for the second day in a row, and I went to the FSC v FSC game again, and there was not a pass thrown after the 2nd drive of the second half, I believe that it was not 60-0 then.  They ran the ball and made interceptions.  It just seems as if those guys got a bad rap for playing a game. 
Anyway, I am rather hopeful taht EC can pull off the victory, even though curry has been playing well.  i think the ke y to the game will be the strong curry D-Line vs the average EC oline.

[D3FAN05]

Gullgrad,

Average EC O-Line? What makes them so "average"?

They are perhaps average in size - only one of the starters in 280+ - but their system seems to be tailored to a smaller, athletic player.

They are second in the conference in rushing and that starts up front. Now, they will have to play a very good D-Line this week to prove that they are as good as the stats say!

This game will definately be won in the "trenches"...

[Outsider14]

i can't believe you guys are still talking about that 75-0 game... when a team starts dominating, what do opposing fans talk about? classless, academics, the past... anything to make them feel better. you want classless? how about framingham's team walking onto the field and proceeding w/ warmups during senior introductions w/ their parents. that would motivate anyone true to their school to want to embarrass them. it just makes it easier when the other team turns the ball over repeatedly in their own territory, when the other team's defense already has taken their starters out midway through the 3rd quarter. what's more humiliating: a team running the ball over and over and ending up in the end zone because you can't stop them, or a team downing the ball 4 snaps in a row starting in the 3rd quarter? if that's what it takes for a defense to stop the offense so "kids" don't get embarrassed, then that's just bad football.
also, if "sportsmanship is what college athletics is all about" frank solich wouldn't have been fired from nebraska after a 9 win season, the BCS would invite army and temple for being so kind as to let other teams win and feel good about themselves, and the ivy league would be on national TV every thursday. if sportsmanship is what its all about, don't be in a conference that rewards winners; go join the nescac or whatever conference it is that doesn't allow postseason play.
i know this post may piss some people off, but i get tired of fans attacking teams that beat the crap out of their beloved team on the field (which is what competition is all about) and calling them classless, or attacking academics, or what have you. if you can't take a loss don't play. my last collegiate game, my team was trounced 66-0 when we went into the game thinking we could win and play for it all. after the game (in which the other team was kicking field goals on 2nd down) i went up to their head coach and said "we really respect what you guys are doing here".

[Bomber Backer]

Come on boys, we've got to talk about something. Whether it be Framingham or whatever else, lets stir the pot and get some controversy going. Let's get the facts out there. I'll def admit the Framingham's performance was embarrassing, as has been their performance for the past few years. Was fitchburg 75 points better than framingham? I'll say that day they were 100 points + better. But come on, Outsider 14, class and sportmanship add credibilty to the game. They take nothing away from outcomes of games, you won't lose more games because you have class or your a good sport.

Looking forward to a good game this weekend, Endicott has chance to really make a statement after having just two losses to qualilty opponents. I think this will give us an idea of how good Curry is. 

[Teck]

Lets put the 75-0 game with Framingham vs. Fitchburg to bed. Just remember that the worst loss in NEFC history was Fitchburg on the losing end of a 77-0 score. There wasn't a pass throw in the second half, and to call a coach classless because he allows for his backups to get into a game is foolish. He was calling all running plays and the kids were just trying to make a statement to their coach that they're ready to step up for the team. It's more then just the players listening to what their coach says, it's also the backups who have worked their hardest all year trying to get some sort of recognition for it. If you can't take losing then don't play football, it's not a teams fault if their opponents are down 60-0 and still can't stop an iso, simple as that.

[footballfan2005]

About Curry's D-Line... from what i've heard their d-line might be banged up... The Captain, Bob Rotondo, (DT, 5-10 240) has been playing hurt all season!  Should be a good game... i'm sticking w/my pick and saying that Curry pulls this one out at home

[HerbTuck89]

I would like to see Endicott win this weekend but it may be Curry.  The game will definitely be close.  The other thing about this game is that either team looks like they will be able to coast and get people healthy for the conference game.  This may be the one advantage that they would have to be able to beat the Bogan Division winner.  Worcester State has a very diffcult schedule to contend with and must bring their best to each one.  Fitchburg looks like they have a couple of games to get healthy and be ready for Worcester State. Which I think will be a better game than the Endicott - Curry game this week. 

Looking at some of these out of state players theres a couple of them that have some stuff out on the internet.  I'd like to thank Pat Coleman for giving me the link for the Florida player on Fitchburgs roster #70 McMann but I don't think he's starting yet.  I could be wrong.  I'm looking into the upper classmen. Found info on #25 Milleisen a very good running back that went to a D2 school, looks like West Chester University.  He was heavily recruited.  I couldn't find any other press releases.  Maybe other people can fill in the blanks.  I'm in the middle of looking at #34 Whitehead - NY - Great DB (He's been a little more difficult more so because of his name being very common) He's mentioned in the New England local papers multiple times. #60 Robbins - SC He played D2 at Newberry College in SC Played OL not DL he must have been converted to DL somewhere.  It also looks like his high school career was with a national powerhouse and I found an article about the JF Byrnes high school today that said that the average attendance of a home game is 10,000 people (There has many press releases on Robbins - He has the most - Still looking at some other things)  & #99 Babcock - CT  He looks like he played at D2 Sacred Heart in CT. Still looking at some other things.  But all these guys look like they would have needed some addtional incentatives to play at Fitchburg.  These guys are also mentioned on the Fitchburg site multiple times.

[63Center]

Here are picks for the week.

Worcester 21 @ MEM 14 - I give this one to Worcester because I think thye are a better team than MEM and they need the Win to stay in contention for the Bogan.  I think MEM has played a soft schedule so far and after last week's beating, looks like they can't handle the tough competition.

FItchburg 50 @MAM 7 - There is only so much a coach can do to keep the points down and still call it football.

WNEC 10 @UMD 28 - UMD is starting to play the way everyone thought they would earlier in the year and WNEC is up and down this season.

Salve 14 @ BSC 35 - Salve is just no match for Bridgewater.

Westfield 21 @ Framingham 10 - I just can't see Framingham pulling off an upset.

Nichols 10 @ MIT 14 - I don't think Nichols has the horses to get it done this year.  I am not sure if they will win any games.  I heard that their QB got hurt or left the team and they were counting on him to be their offense.

EC 20 @ Curry 17 - I have switched back and forth on this one, but I am going to go with EC in a close down to the wire game.  The stats for these two teams are remarkably close so it could be anybody's game.  The EC defense against the Curry Offense should be good to watch.  The EC offense will have to take advantage and score when they get into the Red Zone and not falter like they have in other games.  Each team will have to take advantage of field position.  This could be USC-ND all over again.

[Jonny Utah]

The fitchburg st head coach is a firefighter.  Thats pretty admirable but its too bad thats not a full time posisition

[gullgrad]

Wow, he is a firefighter, that is rather cool.  I thought most part time coaches got hooked up somewhere in the school.  What about the rest of that staff, are they all part time?

okay, pick time:

Salve 7, BSC 31, BSC is still hoping for a FSC loss, but they need to win out.

MeMA 24 WSC 21, this is a barn burner, but "the DON" gets it done up in the woods of Maine.

MMA 0 FSC 42, I think Mass is better than we all think, they have a lot of guys in the stat dept. Plus if its wet the FSC QB will prob throw a ton of picks like vs EC.

WNEC 14 UMD 13, WNEC is a decent team, and UMD has had its ups and down, but I like the golden bears in this one.

Nichols 3 MIT 0, I dont think this will be the score, but who will really even watch this one?

West 48, Fram 7, Come on, Fram is not good, Westfield, if they want, will take out their frustrations on a bad team.

EC 28, CC 21, close one, but I need the alma to pull it off.

[Jonny Utah]

Wow, he is a firefighter, that is rather cool.  I thought most part time coaches got hooked up somewhere in the school.  What about the rest of that staff, are they all part time?

I would assume so if the head coach is