FB: Conference of New England

[Jonny Utah]

I know Curry has a bunch of full time coaches.  How many other NEFC teams pay good salaries for a few coaches?

[Boxer7806]

Utah i think Curry and WNEC and Umass D are the only schools with full time coaches right now and im not sure about UMASS D but i know Bridgewaters coach teaches at the school so he is around... i know Kelly at Framingham is the AD so he is always around helping the program... im not sure if Fitchburg's coach is full time but i dont think westfields or MIT is ... but if there were more full time coaches in the leauge that would help greatly in recruiting and prove schools want to put money into their football programs... i think a school like Endicott should do that if they have no already... a team like plymouth should hire castonia full time for the job he has done... the money to do that is there for the private school to hire full time like Curry and WNEC and possible Endicott but for the state schools money is alot tighter.... thats why i think it benefits a team like Framingham to have their AD as head coach becuase he will put alot of time into their team like a full time coach did... it was evident as they were alot more competitive this year then years past that is for sure

[Boxer7806]

booby

it will be interesting ...i wish i could make the trip up to rochester but like many of us we will be obligated to spend time with our families over the thanksgiving weekend...none the less i will be listening to the game becuase it has alot of intrigue to me... SJF strength is thier secondary with stepnick he is the real deal and might be the only one to shut down muc garcon in the country... i think Curry will pass with moderate success but stay away deep against stepnick...i expect alot of underneath routes and screens to get the passing game going... im positive Curry will try to establish the run right away because they match up in size well with SJF but im worried about the monster they have inside they got a kid who is like 330 pounds and 6'3 who has been shutting down run games all by himself... if that is the case again saturdday then curry will leave 2 guys just to block him which will free up one on one for the guys on the inside and let the lb's roam free to make plays which could be trouble...

ideal game for curry this weekend would to have moderate run success to pound out 3-4 yards a rush and be able to use some play action with van giesen to hopefully get the backers to bite and throw some crossing patterns around them... stepnick from what i heard is a awesome tackler so they need to establish the run to hopefully use some playaction and catch him off guard if they can and use his agressiveness against him...

i dont think this weekend will be a high scoring game... i think both D's will show up ... but i think sjf comes out on top to the tune of 24- 10...

[Tags]

Curry won't be able to run on Fisher, which means they'll have to throw to move the chains. I have no doubt from reading everything on this QB and receiving core that they'll be able to throw some, but if Fisher shuts down Curry's running game early I think it's lights out.

Fisher will drop Stepnick back to Safety and bring in Bostick to play opposite Miranto at the Corner. Our LB's are a good sized, but athletic bunch who can cover the flats. I'm interested to see just how well Curry can throw given that situation.

Our offense, which seemed to waver a bit coming down the stretch looks like it picked up a good spark at the end of the Hobart game, and the O-line FINALLY took over the way they should be able to.

Fisher has seen very good QB's in recent games in Keeley, and Strom (who is better in my mind b/c he can throw & run) --- Each game the Defense has shut them down, and I don't see this week being any different.

Tags predicts:

Fisher 34
Curry  10

[theoriginalupstate]

Boxer, Mat Becton hasnt been 6-3 330lbs since 8th grade probably...

He's 6-6, 360....

Your right though, he's a monster and he commands a double team on both run and passing downs.  If you try to block him with one guy on pass downs he'll throw the lineman into the pocket and fluster the QB...

[oldcurryalum]

Sometimes the bigger they are the harder they fall. Ill take a smaller, faster lineman anyday over a big guy who has the best seat in the house. A classic example of this would be at Georgia Southern Univ where my daughters are alums. GSU has always had small quick linemen and look what theyve been able to accomplish since the inception of their football program in 1985. Six national Div1AA championships. Much of this bantering back and forth can be summed up in one statement. The team that has the wants and desire will usually win out IMHO. Other than what Ive said, I would have to favor SJF because of the quality of their program and the home field advantage. Good luck to both teams.

[Findtheball]

     Happy Thanksgiving to all ..... be safe
Turkey....more turkey....football.........nap...more football my kind of day .


                           GO CURRY !

[Boxer7806]

Upstate...thanks for the correction... tags i agree with you but i think the score will be alot closer than yours... Curry's D line is their strong point and they are good size as well... i think Curry's D line will give them some problems especially Pinto and Chiacerrlli or wateva his name is ...they are both big guys who are athletic... pinto was the conf. def. player of the year as a d linemen so he is going to command some intention in side from them... i dont think Curry will be able to run at will on curry...instead i think SJF is going to air out the ball

from what i heard SJF qb is pretty good at scramblin around and making plays... maybe you E8 poster can tell me if he is better than bolton hartwicks qb who is up for d3 player of the year and won offensive player of the year for the conference... because Curry did well and keeping him in check most of the game

[63Center]

I think this will be closer than folks think and also a low scoring game.  I have to give the edge to SJF because they have played a tougher schedule not just this year but in past years, they have experince in tough games, and they are at home.  I do think Curry will represent the NEFC well and would love to see them advance, but I go with SJF 17-10.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

[theoriginalupstate]

RE: Kramer vs Botlus

Two totally different QBs.  One is a gun slinger and the other is a game manager.  Boltus is asked to win the game by himself while Kramer is asked to move the team efficiently and take shots when they present themself. 

A typical kramer game will be 18-25 250yds 2 tds in a 38-12 win

A typical Boltus game will be 22-48 450ys 4 tds in a 35-34 win

[mel]

I saw Kramer a year ago and really liked him.   He makes plays when they needed him but does not have to do it all.  Perhaps best of all he knows when to punt and return for a fresh set of downs.
He in no way looks like a QB, portly and roundish in the middle.  He wins and that is all a team can ask for.
I like Kramer alot.

The Curry QB on the other hand is a player as well. I know in the Springfield game last year he was iffy early and that cost Curry.
I see a great  match up on Saturday.
I know the StJF secondary is highly regarded but the matchup with the Curry Wrs just may be the game.  They are good and big kids.

I will watch this game with great interest.

Happy Thanksgiving all, my stuffing and pies are in the oven as I type.

[boobyhasgameyo]

so will you be in attendance mel?

[mel]

No, I can not make the trek to Rochacah.  My scouts will be there.  
I have a weekend of youth basketball coaching at my fingertips.  

[theoriginalupstate]

Good write up of the SJF-Curry game from the Rochester D&C....

Cardinals well aware of Curry's offense for today's playoff game


Jim Mandelaro
Staff writer



(November 24, 2007) — Like a fine wine, the St. John Fisher football team's defense seems to get better with time.

The Cardinals are allowing opponents 12.3 points per game, which is sixth-best in Division III. But during their current six-game winning streak, they are giving up just 8.3.

"We knew we had great athletes at every position," says senior cornerback Steve Stepnick, Fisher's all-time interceptions leader with 19. "For whatever reason, we seem to start slow and then we mesh. We've learned to put everything together."

Today, that defense will be put to the test again when second-seed Fisher (10-1) hosts No. 3 Curry College (12-0) of Milton, Mass., in a second-round NCAA Division III Tournament noon game at Growney Stadium.

The winner moves on to the national quarterfinals against the winner of today's game between No. 1 Mount Union and No. 4 The College of New Jersey.

Curry is the only 12-0 team in the nation at any level. The Colonels advanced last Saturday by winning 42-21 over Hartwick, the only team to beat Fisher this season.

Curry averages 39 points a game and features a well-balanced attack, with 2,640 yards rushing and 2,561 passing. Sophomore Jamaal Woods has scored nine touchdowns and rolls up 86 yards per game, while junior quarterback Ryan Van De Giesen has tossed 30 TD passes against eight interceptions and has thrown for 2,422 yards.

The Colonels are deadly inside the red zone, scoring points of any sort 87 percent of the time and recording touchdowns 65 percent of the time when inside the opponents' 20-yard line.

Fisher compares well. The Cardinals average 37.6 points and have two standout tailbacks in Ryan Hanson (92.3 per game) and James Reile (83.1). Reile is third on Fisher's all-time rushing list with 3,003 yards.

The ever-accurate Rob Kramer has 25 TD passes and just seven interceptions (that's an amazing 47 touchdowns and eight picks in two years).

His favorite targets are Jimmy Smith (44 receptions for 750 yards and 12 TDs) and Tim Marion (43-for-625 and 5 TDs).

Fisher's defense returns nine starters from last year but had to replace All-America linebacker Gene Lang, who posted 290 tackles over the previous two seasons and is the program's all-time leader with 478. Only three seniors start, but defensive coordinator Blaise Faggiano has the Cardinals playing stingy and hard-hitting D.

"You lose guys you feel you can't replace," Stepnick says. "But somehow, guys keep stepping in."

Stepnick has been a constant force. He had already set the all-time program record with 14 interceptions by the end of his junior season, and he has five more this fall. He recently was named Empire 8 Defensive Player of the Year.

Fisher and Curry each have 24 interceptions, tied for third in the nation.

Fisher's linebacker corps is strong, led by juniors Josh Gottlieb (team-high 85 tackles) and Jason Cirulli of Webster Schroeder (team-high four sacks).

The Fisher defense has shined the past two weeks against Alfred and Hobart, two area rivals who came in averaging nearly 40 points. Alfred was held to 19, and Hobart managed only a fourth-quarter touchdown.

"The Fisher defense is solid up front," Hobart coach Mike Cragg says. "They have bigger people (than most opponents) and they just wear you down over the game. You can't force the issue with this team. They're not a team you can attack through the air."

Curry has reached the NCAA Tournament in each of the past five seasons. The Colonels are 23-1 under second-year coach Skip Bandini, with that lone loss coming to Springfield (one of Fisher's Empire 8 rivals) in a 42-14 blowout in last year's first round of the NCAA Tournament. Fisher eliminated Springfield the following week.

[boobyhasgameyo]

Good luck and safe travels to Rochester if anyone from these boards are going!