Top 25 rankings

[Pat Coleman]

You're assuming I have 24 friends.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ralph,

Your conspiracy theory OBVIOUSLY has holes in it, since despite my protests, the top CCIW team is still only #14!

But, yes, lately the top 5 appears to be Linfield, MUC, 1 or 2 Texas teams, and 1 or 2 others!  (Bring back the 80s, when Augustana ruled the world - and I HATE Augie, but at least they're from the right conference!)

[voice]

Mr. Ypsi,

I'm wondering why CCIW schools don't schedule more games with teams in the WIAC in neighboring Wisconsin?  Other than Augie's seemingly annual game football game against Platteville, WIAC schools are virtually absent from the schedules on an annual basis.  I know for sure that Whitewater has repeatedly sought to schedule CCIW teams with no luck.  Whitewater's basketball team has also tried to get Carthage on its schedule.  Wouldn't an interconference game (football and basketball) between Carthage (Kenosha) and nearby Whitewater be great for D3 sports in southern Wisconsin?

[Mr. Ypsi]

I, too, would like to see more CCIW-WIAC matchups.

I'm sure one reason why it doesn't happen is that surprisingly few of the games would be in-region.

[Ralph Turner]

Mr. Ypsi, the current situation with the Top 10 and the CCIW is that North Central is a relative newbie that is making the climb into the CCIW "slot".  Should they run the table, then they will finish about 8th-10th!

Solid conference with a solid program that is making the ascent!

[wc2viking]

I, too, would like to see more CCIW-WIAC matchups.

I'm sure one reason why it doesn't happen is that surprisingly few of the games would be in-region.

Really?  I thought the NCAA changed that rule so that school's within a certain distance were always considered 'in region'.  I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

[Ron Boerger]

Pretty sure if you play a team within 200  miles that it is treated as in-region. 

[Pat Coleman]

I think even with 200 miles many games aren't in-region. Eau Claire, La Crosse, River Falls, Stevens Point and Stout are more than 200 miles from Chicagoland, let alone the non-metro area teams.

[Mr. Ypsi]

And for bball, add Superior to the list.

From the other direction, I'd imagine Millikin is not within 200 miles of anyone; IWU MIGHT be with WW (though I doubt it); Augie MIGHT be with Platteville.

[Pat Coleman]

Augie and Platteville are.

[voice]

To answer Mr. Ypsi's question regarding "in region" games for CCIW vs. WIAC.
For UW-Whitewater all fall within the 200 mile NCAA III in region exemption.

According to Mapquest mileage,  Whitewater to:
Augustana College is 171 miles
Illinois Wesleyan is 179 miles
and obviously Chicagoland schools including Elmhurst, North Park, Carthage, etc. are all well within the 200 mile radius.

Maybe their is another reason that the CCIW schools are ducking the WIAC?

[Pat Coleman]

That's one school out of eight, however.

[Mr. Ypsi]

voice,

You left out Millikin - if WW is 179 from IWU, they'd be at least 210 from Decatur.

I'd certainly agree that WW-Carthage seems a natural, and have no idea why it doesn't happen.

(For the record, note that mapquest is not the official arbiter, and it and Microsoft Streets and Trips have sometimes differed by up to 10 miles - which wouldn't matter here, but for distances between 190 and 210, better go to the NCAA's source.)

[Pat Coleman]

Carthage's president has reportedly forbid scheduling of WIAC teams in various sports.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Hmm, Pat,

Did you hear WHY?  Carthage-WW seems like a natural rivavlry to me.

Perhaps he's in the 'state schools have an unfair advantage' camp.