Top 25 rankings

'gro · September 19, 2006, 08:33:42 AM

Nice showing by New York schools. Similar to the WIAC most of those teams will knock eachother out by years end. but good for now.

dea · September 19, 2006, 04:26:45 PM

Why is Linfield,with 0-2 start,still in top 25? Last season is over.....base placement on what is happenening during THIS season.

Pat Coleman · September 19, 2006, 10:15:28 PM

If you want standings, you can certainly take teams and order them by win-loss record yourself.

The two teams that Linfield has played are better than anyone Union will face the entire regular season. Our voters are smart enough to know that Linfield is still a top 25 team.

K-Mack · September 19, 2006, 10:18:50 PM

Quote from: dea on September 19, 2006, 04:26:45 PM
Why is Linfield,with 0-2 start,still in top 25? Last season is over.....base placement on what is happenening during THIS season.

Dea,
I respond to this argument on the Daily Dose, and will probably also share it in ATN.

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/?p=233#comments

jmw73 · September 28, 2006, 06:16:29 PM

Quote from: enginegro on September 19, 2006, 08:33:42 AM
Nice showing by New York schools. Similar to the WIAC most of those teams will knock eachother out by years end. but good for now.

One small problem to your theory. Cortland has already played 3 of the 4 NY schools on its schedule and beaten them all. The only one left (on the NY side of the schedule) is Ithaca on Veterans Day.

Cortland probably will be 8-0 going into November. Its last 2 are at Rowan and the Cortaca game (at Cortland this year) v. Ithaca.

'gro · September 30, 2006, 06:29:57 PM

Quote from: jmw73 on September 28, 2006, 06:16:29 PM
Quote from: enginegro on September 19, 2006, 08:33:42 AM
Nice showing by New York schools. Similar to the WIAC most of those teams will knock eachother out by years end. but good for now.

One small problem to your theory. Cortland has already played 3 of the 4 NY schools on its schedule and beaten them all. The only one left (on the NY side of the schedule) is Ithaca on Veterans Day.

Cortland probably will be 8-0 going into November. Its last 2 are at Rowan and the Cortaca game (at Cortland this year) v. Ithaca.

So cortland stays... how does that ruin my theory?

jmw73 · October 03, 2006, 12:01:48 PM

I don't think the NY schools will knock each other out. I think 2 or 3 will make the D3 tournament.

gordonmann · October 03, 2006, 08:48:27 PM

Yes, but I think 'Gro was talking about the Top 25. It's possible that teams could make the playoffs and not be in the poll.

Incidentally I think the LL and E8 will get the benefit of the doubt and keep a team in the Top 25 even if they suffer one loss. Two loses is another story.

K-Mack · October 04, 2006, 12:19:18 AM

Quote from: enginegro on September 30, 2006, 06:29:57 PM
Quote from: jmw73 on September 28, 2006, 06:16:29 PM
Quote from: enginegro on September 19, 2006, 08:33:42 AM
Nice showing by New York schools. Similar to the WIAC most of those teams will knock eachother out by years end. but good for now.

One small problem to your theory. Cortland has already played 3 of the 4 NY schools on its schedule and beaten them all. The only one left (on the NY side of the schedule) is Ithaca on Veterans Day.

Cortland probably will be 8-0 going into November. Its last 2 are at Rowan and the Cortaca game (at Cortland this year) v. Ithaca.

So cortland stays... how does that ruin my theory?

(I was thinking the same think but wasn't going to mention it)

Actually, I think "Gro" as we're calling him, was talking mostly about the LL and E8.

'gro · October 04, 2006, 03:21:34 PM

yes and no and maybe...

My point is that its good to see all these NY teams in the poll this early. but sooner or later only a few teams will remain because most of them play eachother (through the E8 and LL, but you have brockport, cortland, and buffstate in the mix too). Much like the 1st couple of polls every year has most of the WIAC teams in there... only a few will remain in the end because of the losses, doesn't mean they are bad teams though. Long story short NY is getting respect and I like it. A nice ali G style "Big up" to the pollsters.

as far as the playoffs go expect 3-4 teams easy. Fisher has the early lead on the E8 and a 1 loss Ithaca will most likely get a bid (Springfield, MA is my spoiler pick). Top teams in the LL are from NY and a 1 loss runner up should get a pool C also. Cortland looks like a 1 loss team too.

K-Mack · October 04, 2006, 11:22:39 PM

Respek!

Quote from: enginegro on October 04, 2006, 03:21:34 PM

Josh Bowerman · October 11, 2006, 12:38:33 PM

I'm beginning to wonder about the AFCA poll.

This week, UMHB moves up three spots after beating (previously #6) HSU. If I were voting, I may have moved them up a few spots more, but hey--that's the way the vote goes.

HSU, however, falls 11 places. 11 places! Ohio Northern, who lost to the #1 team in the country, drops 10! Granted, the Polar Bears were beaten soundly by the Raiders, but there's no way Mt. St. Joseph's ought to be ranked ahead of ONU.

Sheesh.

Pat Coleman · October 11, 2006, 12:50:27 PM

What's taken you so long to start wondering about that one?

Josh Bowerman · October 11, 2006, 01:51:55 PM

Senility beginning to set in, I suppose.

K-Mack · October 16, 2006, 12:34:21 AM

Couldn't believe Wheaton was top 10 this week in AFCA, but I give it up to them for having Cortland ahead of Rowan, no matter how that actually pans out. I don't think the Robert Morris loss should've affected their ranking, but lackluster results since have.

I think I am the only person in the country voting for CNU over Mary Hardin-Baylor, which I saw with my own two eyes. It was not a fluke. Sure UMHB was far from home, in their first game in a new offensive system and new season and fumbled on the 1, but CNU had two loooong scoring plays called back at the end of the first half. They definitely could have tacked more points on. I think CNU compares with the Wesley team that beat UMHB in last year's playoffs.

I just don't agree with CNU and UMHB being so far from each other in either poll. (It's not like this is a reaction to UMHB playing tougher competition, although I'm sure they surged some after HSU) And Rowan has to stay ahead of CNU. Springfield over Union. Baldwin-Wallace before Augustana.

Seems simple enough. A team you beat head-to-head is a team you're better than, more often than not.

(starts beef)