Top 25 rankings

Started by Pat Coleman, August 18, 2005, 01:59:31 AM

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DutchFan2004

The political comment hurt some.  I appreciate your comments and Karma.  I have tried to be good to the Wartburg guys.  I have no problem with them.  I haven't had any problems lately.  I got on a rant and choose some words that were not in the best interest of football but couldn't think of any other analogy to fit the situation.  As far as the Karma thing I went from a -15 to a -19 from Sat night posting the pickems to Sunday morning when I checked it.  Since then I am back up to -10.  I don't mind the -k for the polictal bomb but it seemed that if I posted the sky was blue this morning someone was handing out the -k.  IMHO to do that is just uncalled for.  I really have enjoyed your pod cast of ATN.  I have forgot to give you to props for that.  It really gives a feel for what has gone on over the week end.  Thanks to Pat and K-Mack for all you two do for the D3 kids. 
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Pat Coleman

Something to keep in mind is just because a post is not your most recent post doesn't mean someone isn't reading it for the first time.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

DutchFan2004

Yes Pat that had occured to me. 
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K-Mack

Dutch, responding over on the ATN thread since my response is really unrelated to the top 25. Trying to get the thread back on track.

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sjfcclimbing

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2007, 07:55:47 AM
It's announced with the bracket on Selection Sunday.

Not trying to be difficult. I don't see anything in the handbook that defines the basis for the region to  region decision, how is it decided?

Pat Coleman

Not sure what you mean by region to region distinction.

If you're asking how they seed the brackets against each other, it's basically a ranking of the No. 1 seeds in each bracket. The No. 1 and No. 2 top seeds' brackets get the home-field advantage if equal seeds advance to the semifinals.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

sjfcclimbing

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2007, 11:52:30 PM
Not sure what you mean by region to region distinction.

If you're asking how they seed the brackets against each other, it's basically a ranking of the No. 1 seeds in each bracket. The No. 1 and No. 2 top seeds' brackets get the home-field advantage if equal seeds advance to the semifinals.

Let me try an example, say by crazy coincidence all #1 seeds advance from the regional brackets. How is it decided which region will play which region and who would host the games?

Ralph Turner

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Quote from: sjfcclimbing on October 07, 2007, 02:07:56 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2007, 11:52:30 PM
Not sure what you mean by region to region distinction.

If you're asking how they seed the brackets against each other, it's basically a ranking of the No. 1 seeds in each bracket. The No. 1 and No. 2 top seeds' brackets get the home-field advantage if equal seeds advance to the semifinals.

Let me try an example, say by crazy coincidence all #1 seeds advance from the regional brackets. How is it decided which region will play which region and who would host the games?

Page 12-14 from the 2007 NCAA D3 Football Championships Handbook answers these questions.  :)

The selection committee will use the primary (and secondary if necessary) selection criteria to determine those seeds.

sjfcclimbing

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 07, 2007, 02:13:20 PM
Quote from: sjfcclimbing on October 07, 2007, 02:07:56 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2007, 11:52:30 PM
Not sure what you mean by region to region distinction.

If you're asking how they seed the brackets against each other, it's basically a ranking of the No. 1 seeds in each bracket. The No. 1 and No. 2 top seeds' brackets get the home-field advantage if equal seeds advance to the semifinals.

Let me try an example, say by crazy coincidence all #1 seeds advance from the regional brackets. How is it decided which region will play which region and who would host the games?

Page 12-14 from the 2007 NCAA D3 Football Championships Handbook answers these questions.  :)

The selection committee will use the primary (and secondary if necessary) selection criteria to determine those seeds.

I have read this handbook and, obviously, I am missing something. The sections you refence do show criteria for seeding within the regional brackets but do not indicate any criteria for the selection of which region faces which region if the same seeds emerge from the regional bracket and which would be the home team.

Ralph Turner

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Thanks for the question.  I understand the "bracket seeding" to occur once the brackets have been filled and the #1 seeds of each bracket are then "bracketed" at that time, e.g., South #1 hosting West #1 and North #1 hosting East #1, using the criteria stated in the handbook.

I will appreciate any corrections.

Thanks.




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Ralph
Let me give it a shot

sjfc
The top seeds in each region are seeded as well ,,,So Mt Union is #1(#1 north) UMHB #2(#1 south)Rowan #3(#1 east) and Redlands #4(#1 west) and so on ...But a #2 or #3 from one region can't host a higher rated team from another region.
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DutchFan2004

Is it my imagination or is the poll coming out later and later these past two weeks?
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Josh Bowerman

It's out now.

I really can't fathom how ONU loses 44-0 and drops only two spots from 9 to 11.  Unbelievable.
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smedindy

Quote from: Josh Bowerman on October 07, 2007, 09:34:57 PM
It's out now.

I really can't fathom how ONU loses 44-0 and drops only two spots from 9 to 11.  Unbelievable.

Why?

1. They lost to Mt. Union.
2. Wartburg, La Crosse and Trinity all lost.

If those three teams all won, they'd be 14 or so.
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Josh Bowerman

That's the kind of thing that causes people to question the credibility of the poll, smed.
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