Top 25 rankings

Chum Slam · October 26, 2005, 12:14:49 PM

Just like I posted on the MAC page, to have Delaware valley ahead of Mount Union is an absolute joke. MUC is on an entirely different level of football compared to any MAC team.

ACMob · October 26, 2005, 09:56:17 PM

couldn't agree with ya more chum...!!

This certainly knocks down the credibility of the AFCA poll

!!

Chum Slam · October 27, 2005, 11:07:03 AM

Absolutely. I played in the MAC for 4 years, we played W&J, Bridgewater, Union, Springfield, CNU, and Mount Union. Delaware Valley is not even in the same sentence as those guys.

badbadman · October 27, 2005, 11:54:41 AM

I agree that MUC is on a different level than any MAC team. However, DVC is not the same team they were a few years ago and can probably beat W&J, Bridgewater, Union, Springfield, and CNU.

Chum Slam · October 27, 2005, 12:18:26 PM

No way, i just dont see it. and ive been to a few DVC games this year.

badbadman · October 27, 2005, 12:30:32 PM

You have got to be kidding -- Springfield is 2-5 this year. W&J hasn't even beaten a winning team yet. The combined record of their opponents in games they have won is 11-41. Remember what happend when they played Wilkes in the ECAC? Although undefeated, Union is struggling right now just beating the Coast Guard (2-4) 7-0 on a defensive TD. CNU is 4-3 and not by accident or bad luck. Bridgewater is playing decent ball and that would be an interesting matchup.

I'm not saying DVC is ALOT better than those other teams, just that after the top 5 or 6 teams, there is a big drop off in ability. MUC would probably crush all of those teams, including DVC.

smedindy · October 27, 2005, 12:46:32 PM

According to the real Massey ratings (far right column) - Del Val is 38th.

TXCowboy · October 27, 2005, 01:05:04 PM

If HSU and UMHB win out HSU wins the conference but will UMHB get another pool C bid this year?

Chum Slam · October 27, 2005, 01:18:52 PM

You are right this year they are not very good. But traditionally W&J Bridgewater are strong programs, and MUC is the cream of the crop. To even have DelVal up there is a joke in my opinion. Put DelVal in the OAC and I would be shocked if they went 3-7.

Pat Coleman · October 27, 2005, 09:05:05 PM

Quote from: TXCowboy on October 27, 2005, 01:05:04 PM
If HSU and UMHB win out HSU wins the conference but will UMHB get another pool C bid this year?

I would think that's as much a lock as you can picture.

smedindy · October 28, 2005, 12:35:15 AM

The only way UMHB does not get a pool C is if something totally inexplicable happens. Well, they did lose to Howard Payne. But a second one this season? Highly unlikely.

(Though, we said that about anyone winning in Alliance recently, too...)

K-Mack · October 29, 2005, 01:03:42 AM

Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on October 22, 2005, 06:20:52 PM
If Occidental wins, could we be looking at four of the top five teams being from the West?

And given Rowan's perfomance in the semifinals last year aren't we really looking at the top four teams being from the West.

This has happened before, or something similar. I think St. Norbert went 10-0 and had to go on the road in the first round b/c Linfield, SJU and someone else was also unbeaten.

Hold on (looks in trusty crate of old D3 books)

OK, the '03 West bracket

1. SJU 10-0
bye

Simpson 9-1
St. Norbert 10-0 (at home though)

Wartburg 10-0
Bethel 9-1

Redlands 6-3
Linfield 9-0

So basically the top six West teams had two losses, and Redlands won the SCIAC with three. And only lost by eight.

I think that's the roughest bracket, by won-loss record at least, that I have seen.

K-Mack · October 29, 2005, 01:10:45 AM

Quote from: ACMob on October 26, 2005, 09:56:17 PM
This certainly knocks down the credibility of the AFCA poll !!

Boy, I hate when that happens.

As far as the Central-Coe question, I hate to rank any team behind a team its beaten head-to-head, but sometimes it's inevitable. Central's win over Augustana is really helpful, and the 17-14 margin of victory in the Coe-Central and Wartburg-Coe games means the three teams are probably pretty close.

In which case, if you're looking at just those scores (Central's actually squeaked out a bunch of wins, but we digress), you don't want to put Central, Coe, Wartburg or Augustana too far from each other, but you also don't know if have room for all four in your top 25 if you aren't necessarily convinced that any of them are that great.

Just some thoughts, FWIW. Not necessarily reflecting how I voted this past week.

repete · October 29, 2005, 01:22:27 AM

And, indeed, the West was best that year.

Also, that year, the West sent UW-LAX to the North, where they gave Mount Union its toughest playoff game . . . until the Stagg.

K-Mack · October 29, 2005, 02:59:48 AM

Quote from: religion_major on October 22, 2005, 09:22:07 PM
K-Mack or Pat,
This may be a stupid question but when is d3.com doing its first playoff projection?

Not stupid, and there usually are three of them that appear mid-week, so work backwards from the final week, 11 ... 10 ... 9.

Should be one out around Wednesday, if my calculations are correct.

The message board one should suffice for now, no?