Top 25 rankings

[ADL70]

Watching the game on TV last night made me think:  CMU, the Boise State of D3...well not exactly.   And can you imagine a tartan football field?

[Ralph Turner]

Watching the game on TV last night made me think:  CMU, the Boise State of D3...well not exactly.   And can you imagine a tartan football field?

+1 Karma!

[Ralph Turner]

As for a Fans' Top 25 Poll, that would require quite a bit of work!

With the help of Grayfox and Proudmcmdad, I spend up to 2-3 hours per week tracking the ASC pick'em's contest in which we have about 25 participants.

I am not sure how much time it takes Kid to do the South Region Fans' Poll.

Finding the time and the enthusiasm for such a poll will require considerable effort.  Good luck.

[Eh-You]

You are now at -28.
What have you done, man!?!?!

K-Mack - 3 possible things
1. T.O. syndrome (people love to hate)
2. Posters trying to move up on the hater list. Which I might add Mr.IHaveTheYips did quite nicely at,
3. Could be a little reverse "I told ya so". In the past six weeks I've made cases against Guilford, Bridgewater, CNU, Washington & Lee when they've been on top! They all went tumbling down and posters are mad b/c I was right. The only posters that can take my karma are those "veterans" who I've been making these cases to. They don't like a new guy coming in and being right when they said he was wrong.

BTW - Here is my next "sniper got um" pick - Wesley. Not saying they'll lose before the playoffs, but they will be a big flop! If AU can't get credit for playing a decent game against them, then I guess I'll say it was close b/c they stink. (by the way know it alls, who have they beaten?)

K-Mack- if you think my karma is bad now - if AU beats CNU this weekend it might hit triple digits,

[Pat Coleman]

K-Mack- if you think my karma is bad now - if AU beats CNU this weekend it might hit triple digits,

Only if you're an ass about it. Of course, given past posts that seems likely. But that's the data we've been waiting for. It's the only toss-up game on Averett's schedule. You've lost to all the teams you were supposed to lose to and beaten all the teams you were supposed to beat.

[Ralph Turner]

You are now at -28.
What have you done, man!?!?!

K-Mack - 3 possible things
1. T.O. syndrome (people love to hate)
2. Posters trying to move up on the hater list. Which I might add Mr.IHaveTheYips did quite nicely at,
3. Could be a little reverse "I told ya so". In the past six weeks I've made cases against Guilford, Bridgewater, CNU, Washington & Lee when they've been on top! They all went tumbling down and posters are mad b/c I was right. The only posters that can take my karma are those "veterans" who I've been making these cases to. They don't like a new guy coming in and being right when they said he was wrong.

BTW - Here is my next "sniper got um" pick - Wesley. Not saying they'll lose before the playoffs, but they will be a big flop! If AU can't get credit for playing a decent game against them, then I guess I'll say it was close b/c they stink. (by the way know it alls, who have they beaten?)

K-Mack- if you think my karma is bad now - if AU beats CNU this weekend it might hit triple digits,

Eh-You, I don't know why you are wearing such a chip on your shoulder.

As I previously posted, everyone likes a Cinderella, but if she is as ugly as a mudfence, they don't miss her when she is gone.

Being a solid fan is one thing.  However, you are doing nothing to win fans for the Averett cause, which is sad!  CNU and its success in multiple sports is such an easy "bad guy/overdog" to pick on!

On these boards, civil responsible intelligent posting that contributes to the greater understanding of what is affecting the teams and the seasons sways more posters than rantings and hating. 

Personalities aside, plenty of us have been around up to 6-8 years to remember who has been a reputable source for information and who hasn't.

[Josh Bowerman]

Eh-you, I docked you one, just to help you along toward your goal.   

[Bill McCabe]

Man, I'm glad the ASC board is not this brutal.  We are always cool, calm and rational (except for occasional misguided HSU posters   )  Just kidding.  I find a lot of passion and knowledge on these boards and have always enjoyed the exchanges.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Eh You,

Regarding your sig line: "3. Mr. Ypsi - Bet he can't putt", the 'yips' is just about the only fault I DON'T have in my golf game!

[Ron Boerger]

To eh and BDTartan:

Every year there seems to be a Cinderella team or two.  They usually bring supporters who want to know why their team isn't ranked above Mount Union, who after all hasn't won a championship since last year and have the same record as their team.  Folks respond with what is usually good information based on years and years of following the sport.  Some of the new fans, who aren't used to the way D3 works, then escalate the discussion, or just keep repeating their heartfelt but often mistaken assertions because they simply don't know better.   The next step is to start trotting out the insults against Pat, Keith, and whomever else is visible on the site, and people who are insulted publicly tend to respond in kind.  If you throw the first stone, don't whine about it when some are thrown back your way. 

Lost in all the hullabaloo is the fact that teams which ring up unimpressive 10-0 records against less than distinguished competition usually get their clock cleaned the first time they make the playoffs.  That would apply to what CMU has done so far ... OT to beat a WashU team isn't going to get you far when you actually play a team that has a clue.  And as for Averett - show that you can at least hang in there against a good team before going ballistic on us for not jumping on the bandwagon. 

BD has been respectful while he has been repeating his assertions, and I think everyone appreciates it.  As for eh ... we'll see if you're just another of the Ferrum-type fans who were blowing smoke all last season and then just disappeared when said smoke got blown away in the playoffs (e.g. a 59-14 loss to the Wesley team you so willingly dismiss).  There are certainly more appropriate ways to express your support than slamming everyone who doesn't agree with you and putting that garbage in your .sig. 

[kickerdad]

For Ralph, Ron, Josh -
thanks for trying to calm Eh You down. He is making it hard on the rest of us Averett folks. As for me I am just excited that we get to play a game
of this magitude with CNU this week.

As for Eh You, he is currently out of control and seems to be on a speed trip to see how many of those K points he have have removed and how many folks he can get to hate him.

If Averett gets beat Saturday, you are right he may disappear but I doubt it.

K - Mack - thanks for the the information.

[ExTartanPlayer]

This is my first, and hopefully my last post.  I have been following this discussion for a while because it involves us, and I was trying to do some research on our playoff chances (hoping that we win our next two games against a pair of good PAC opponents).

BDTartan, first let me say this.  Yes I know your brother, he is doing an
outstanding job this year given the fact that he was moved to DL right as the season began, he provides a very aggressive and quick changeup to our starter and he does play at least half the time if not more.  He makes a lot of big plays and I have a lot of respect for him.

Now, BDTartan, moving on.  Please stop arguing that we belong in the top 25 and we belong in the playoffs.  Getting into a fight with the gurus, poll voters, and the people that decide who gets into the playoffs is NOT going to help us in any way. The only thing we can do is play the best we can over the next two weeks, let the chips fall where they may, and then move on to whatever playoff/ECAC game we get and do our darnedest to win the next one.  Our team has come together in a very special way this year to go from mediocre 5-5 to 8-0 and conference champs.  We want more,
we are not satisfied yet, but realize that arguing with pollsters and such is not going to get you OR us anywhere.

For the record, I don't think we belong in the top 25 yet either.  We are 8-0 but have not played anyone near the caliber of a top 25 team yet.  I am excited about the possibility of testing ourselves against whomever we are matched up against, but first we have to get by a Bethany team with a pretty good offense AND a Thiel team that went undefeated last year (beating us in the process).

Gurus (Pat Coleman, Keith McMillan, et al) - please do not take BDTartan's opinion to represent that of the CMU football team, and please do not get a vendetta against CMU because of anything he says.  BDTartan is a brother of a player on our team, and he's just gotten a bit carried away in his arguments that we belong in the top 25/playoffs.  We will get a chance to prove that, God willing, on November 18 or thereabouts.

Hopefully signing off (maybe a reply to anyone who replies to this post, but that should be it),

TartanPlayer

[repete]

TartanPlayer:

You're one of the few exceptions to the general rule (at least in many of these boards)  that current players are best not posting . . . until their playing days are done. Thanks for the perspective and thoughtful post.

[Pat Coleman]

Tartan Player:

Appreciate your input. If you win the next two you'll have the chance to prove yourself in the playoffs.

I don't let fans affect my ballot.

[BDTartan]

All right then.  i believe I said I was done with this last night, but I'll throw my comment in after TartanPlayer's comment.

TartanPlayer:  I wasn't trying to rep CMU and don't put the negative on my brother because of my opinions.  Its happened in the past.  Anyways, I just asked the question because we tossed around the Whitworth question over on the UAA board.  I don't believe I have ever been out of line when speaking about your football team and I feel the same way.  In fact, I have stated many times that I am happy for you guys for just doing what you've done so far i.e. being undefeated, winning the conference, having a chance at the playoffs.  Believe me, we the fans would like more as well, but I'm not on here trying to make you guys seem like Supermen.  I probably should have never brought up the Whitworth thing, but it seemed like a reasonable debate to me.  I apologize to you, your teammates, and most of all my brother.  Any negative effect this has is on my shoulders squarely.  And finally, best of luck to you guys this weekend and every weekend you continue to play.  Go Tartans!

Pat:  As I said, let's chalk this one up as history.  I'm tired of arguing what can't be argued.  I just wanna watch some football this weekend.  Sorry if I offended you in any way.