Top 25 rankings

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Here is the Street & Smith poll as posted by our friend at BridgewaterFootball.com.  Check out No. 24.

http://bridgewaterfootball.blogspot.com/2007/06/bc-ranked-no-17-by-street-smith.html

And you can see the Lindy's poll about halfway down this page...

http://65.36.138.212/publicus/blog/read.asp?BlogID=4&ID=6755

I could just paste them but why not drive some traffic their way as a sign of my appreciation?

Much appreciated.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Here is the Street & Smith poll as posted by our friend at BridgewaterFootball.com.  Check out No. 24.

http://bridgewaterfootball.blogspot.com/2007/06/bc-ranked-no-17-by-street-smith.html

Can always count on my guy to assemble this stuff.

I'm pretty sure I can count on Bridgewater fans to protest their non-mention in USAT as well. :guilty:

Funny thing is, I had both Lindy's and S&S in my hand at Barnes & Noble two days ago to purchase.  Actually made it to the check out line.  But I then realized I could save $15 if I simply wrote down on a piece of paper what I needed (Bridgewater-related) and placed the two mags back on the newsstand.  Which is what I ended up doing.

I was kind of disappointed Bridgewater was even mentioned by a national magazine.  After our performance (or lack there of) last season, I think we have some proving to do before we are mentioned as a top 25 team.

Hopefully D3football.com's preseason poll gives the Eagles that "chip on the shoulder." Can you help make that happen?

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

There certainly seems to be a large disparity in the placement of St. John Fisher on these polls. 

I think that plays along with what K-Mack said.  People look at different things.

I wish I had my numbers in front of me, but my pre-rank (looking at SR, JR, SO, FR what the expected make up is) on St. John Fisher I believe was 2-5 (means either 2, 3, 4, or 5)  I believe I had UW Whitewater at 2-6 and St John's 3-7.  When I went back and looked at what is "expected" to return, St. John Fisher just had more key people coming back.  

K-Mack-
as for my Springfield pick, I do know off the top of my head, they were in the 5-10 range.  I never thought they could be any lower than that.  That I believe was one of my bigger ranges for any of my schools I had on the list.

['gro]

Here is the Street & Smith poll as posted by our friend at BridgewaterFootball.com.  Check out No. 24.

http://bridgewaterfootball.blogspot.com/2007/06/bc-ranked-no-17-by-street-smith.html

coast guard?  Coast.... Coast Guard? Coast Guard?

I remember when coast guard was good (96-98ish) but they are not good anymore. They went from LL doormat to kicking the crap out of the NEFC in one year.  Does that deserve a preseason ranking? sorry, no. not by any means.  Will the SID at coast guard roll with this or what?

Coast Guard?

[K-Mack]

Here is the Street & Smith poll as posted by our friend at BridgewaterFootball.com.  Check out No. 24.

http://bridgewaterfootball.blogspot.com/2007/06/bc-ranked-no-17-by-street-smith.html

Can always count on my guy to assemble this stuff.

I'm pretty sure I can count on Bridgewater fans to protest their non-mention in USAT as well. :guilty:

Funny thing is, I had both Lindy's and S&S in my hand at Barnes & Noble two days ago to purchase.  Actually made it to the check out line.  But I then realized I could save $15 if I simply wrote down on a piece of paper what I needed (Bridgewater-related) and placed the two mags back on the newsstand.  Which is what I ended up doing.

I was kind of disappointed Bridgewater was even mentioned by a national magazine.  After our performance (or lack there of) last season, I think we have some proving to do before we are mentioned as a top 25 team.

Hopefully D3football.com's preseason poll gives the Eagles that "chip on the shoulder." Can you help make that happen?

Hey, shows what I know?

I think the ODAC could end up with a top 25 team, and if I had to bet on who that would be, the smart money is on Bridgewater ... but there are a lot of teams who could put it together (Eagles, E&H, Guilford, defending champ W&L ... hey, remember Hampden-Sydney?), I think we have to see a few weeks before we know which ODAC teams to consider.

The Coast Guard thing is a pretty solid example of what can happen when you don't know crap about D3 and last year's records are all you have to roll with.

That scares the crap out of me with the D2 preview, so I consult with D2football.com to be sure.

Then again, I ranked an HCAC team and a UAA team. 

[Pat Coleman]

Also, Pat consulted with me, but did not fully endorse my top 5. It's definitely not the same old, same old rehashed top 5 from last season, and there's room to disagree.

Thanks. I was pondering whether to mention that myself.

[Pat Coleman]

Here is the Street & Smith poll as posted by our friend at BridgewaterFootball.com.  Check out No. 24.

http://bridgewaterfootball.blogspot.com/2007/06/bc-ranked-no-17-by-street-smith.html

coast guard?  Coast.... Coast Guard? Coast Guard?

I remember when coast guard was good (96-98ish) but they are not good anymore. They went from LL doormat to kicking the crap out of the NEFC in one year.  Does that deserve a preseason ranking? sorry, no. not by any means.  Will the SID at coast guard roll with this or what?

Coast Guard?

Ha ha ha ha ha! You gotta be kidding me!

[Pat Coleman]

It's a long climb up from the No. 136 that they ended last season at.

[pg04]

What's even more baffling is that they'd put Coast Guard in but not Curry, if they were to put someone in from that conference...

[tmerton]

I can't post the poll I did for USA Today's College Football Preview until at least the 25th, when it hits newsstands. However, I'd like to be in full discussion mode by the time it hits

Did you mean the 25th of June?    I looked!  Is it in the regular USAToday?  I guess it got bumped by the Gold Cup.

[K-Mack]

Also, Pat consulted with me, but did not fully endorse my top 5. It's definitely not the same old, same old rehashed top 5 from last season, and there's room to disagree.

Thanks. I was pondering whether to mention that myself.

Yeah, I didn't want to make it seem like "Pat hates Team X at No. X," but "Pat doesn't necessarily agree with me, but at least I checked with him" was the least I could do.

I can't post the poll I did for USA Today's College Football Preview until at least the 25th, when it hits newsstands. However, I'd like to be in full discussion mode by the time it hits

Did you mean the 25th of June?    I looked!  Is it in the regular USAToday?  I guess it got bumped by the Gold Cup.

It's a special edition. Should have one of seven covers, probably Michigan or Nebraska where you're at, on white newsprint. In my neighborhood, the 7-Elevens always have them on display with the USA Today Dailies and the Sports Weekly issues.

Airports seem to always have them too, if you fly. Pat's more of a scholar on this than me though.

Keep an eye out. The distribution time on these varies in different places.

If USAT webs it for free, I'll post the link.

[K-Mack]

K-Mack...anxious to see your top 25. 

I think that anwsers your question.  I think we all are anxious to see your poll.

By the way, Pat would like you all to know that you're eager to see the Top 25, not anxious.

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[K-Mack]

OK . . . not much substance to offer, but I'll pose a question . . . what impact does Danny Jones' transfer from CLU to UWW do to UWW's preseason ranking, if any?

tooth

I think the logical expectation is 3-5 games to feel really comfortable in the offense, assuming he wins the job.

I guess I will ask him if/when I ever call him back.

(Apologies to Danny, UWW and D3 community as a whole.)

[K-Mack]

And you can see the Lindy's poll about halfway down this page...

http://65.36.138.212/publicus/blog/read.asp?BlogID=4&ID=6755

I could just paste them but why not drive some traffic their way as a sign of my appreciation?

You're a good Man(n), Gordon.

Frank (the MIAC blogger) has some good points here:

Division III polls always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Unlike in Division I, where those who vote and compile polls can see teams from all over the country on television, Division III pollsters aren't able to see much of teams who don't play in their area of the country. Of course, it's usually a safe bet to put Mount Union No. 1. The Purple Raiders are just that dominant. After that, though, it tends to be guess work with a lot of emphasis on certain programs reputations and records from the past year.

But again I say rankings, not polls or pollsters.

And *ahem* true D3 pollsters see teams from all over the country. Some even coach them!

Those who make D3 rankings, not always as much.

Anyway, I mince. Point taken.

[K-Mack]

Here is the Street & Smith poll as posted by our friend at BridgewaterFootball.com.  Check out No. 24.

http://bridgewaterfootball.blogspot.com/2007/06/bc-ranked-no-17-by-street-smith.html

coast guard?  Coast.... Coast Guard? Coast Guard?

I remember when coast guard was good (96-98ish) but they are not good anymore. They went from LL doormat to kicking the crap out of the NEFC in one year.  Does that deserve a preseason ranking? sorry, no. not by any means.  Will the SID at coast guard roll with this or what?

Coast Guard?

They should just replace "incredulous" in the dictionary with "Jim Mora voice"

Works for everything.

(will be walking around all week saying "Coast Guard? Coast Guard!?!?!?"