Top 25 rankings

[Pat Coleman]

Tmerton is on the West Coast. A John David Booty cover, perhaps?

[K-Mack]

Tmerton is on the West Coast. A John David Booty cover, perhaps?

Assactly!

Apologies to Tmerton for gross geographic misplacement.

[Jonny Utah]

I put together my top 25 poll.  I want to see how it compares to the preseason poll for this season.  This is how I determined it.  I went back and looked at the poll from last year went through the teams looking to see how many returners should be coming back.  I came up with a range of numbers of where I thought they could be.  I then and went and looked at teams big stat makers.  I then put them in where I thought.

Preseason Top 25-By PrideSportBBallGuy

1. Mount Union
2. St John Fisher
3. St Johns
4. UW-Whitewater
5. Springfield
6. Mary Hardin-Baylor
7. Capitol
8. Central
9. Wesley
10. UW-Lacrosse
11. Rowan
12. Whitworth
13. Occidental
14. Hardin Simmons
15. Wheaton
16. Wilkes
17. Bethel
18. Washington & Jefferson
19. North Central
20. Linfield
21. Hobart
22. Carnegie Mellon
23. Baldwin-Wallace
24. Wabash
25. St. Olaf

Enjoy it.

what are people's thoughts on No. 2 and the rest behind Mount Union?

I can't post the poll I did for USA Today's College Football Preview until at least the 25th, when it hits newsstands. However, I'd like to be in full discussion mode by the time it hits

I think that anwsers your question.  I think we all are anxious to see your poll.

Im gonna say Springfield is not the 5th best team in the country.

[HScoach]

And Capital lost way too much to remain in the top 15. 

[Pat Coleman]

Question with all of those types of pronouncements is, who goes ahead of them? I often find myself starting out the preseason Top 25 process with the same preconceived notions, but when push comes to shove, I have a hard time moving someone like Wilkes ahead of Springfield, or Occidental ahead of Capital, etc.

['gro]

Question with all of those types of pronouncements is, who goes ahead of them?

Coast Guard. The choice is obvious.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

I put together my top 25 poll.  I want to see how it compares to the preseason poll for this season.  This is how I determined it.  I went back and looked at the poll from last year went through the teams looking to see how many returners should be coming back.  I came up with a range of numbers of where I thought they could be.  I then and went and looked at teams big stat makers.  I then put them in where I thought.

Preseason Top 25-By PrideSportBBallGuy

1. Mount Union
2. St John Fisher
3. St Johns
4. UW-Whitewater
5. Springfield
6. Mary Hardin-Baylor
7. Capitol
8. Central
9. Wesley
10. UW-Lacrosse
11. Rowan
12. Whitworth
13. Occidental
14. Hardin Simmons
15. Wheaton
16. Wilkes
17. Bethel
18. Washington & Jefferson
19. North Central
20. Linfield
21. Hobart
22. Carnegie Mellon
23. Baldwin-Wallace
24. Wabash
25. St. Olaf

Enjoy it.

what are people's thoughts on No. 2 and the rest behind Mount Union?

I can't post the poll I did for USA Today's College Football Preview until at least the 25th, when it hits newsstands. However, I'd like to be in full discussion mode by the time it hits

I think that anwsers your question.  I think we all are anxious to see your poll.

Im gonna say Springfield is not the 5th best team in the country.

That is like every other ranking/poll they are always up for debate.

JU-

Did you know that Springfield returns 99.09% of thier offense?  This is a team that finished 10th in the d3football poll.  The question mark will be the defesne only returning 56% (+/- a few %, I kept track of the core defensive players.)  They do return 5 of top 10 defensive players.  They return a guy that had 10INT's last year.

hscoach-

As for Captial I do agree they lost a lot.  I thought they couldn't be as high as they finished last year at number 3.  Before I went to see who was returning and who wasn't I had them around 4-7 range.  They ended up at number 7.  They may have lost alot, but they haven't had a losing season since 2000.  That tells me they do a good job of replacing players.

[Pat Coleman]

Did you know that Springfield returns 99.09% of thier offense?  This is a team that finished 10th in the d3football poll.  The question mark will be the defesne only returning 56% (+/- a few %, I kept track of the core defensive players.)  They do return 5 of top 10 defensive players.  They return a guy that had 10INT's last year.

Did you know that Springfield is only good on turf and not on grass?

Gotta know the teams. Can't just number everything.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Did you know that Springfield returns 99.09% of thier offense?  This is a team that finished 10th in the d3football poll.  The question mark will be the defesne only returning 56% (+/- a few %, I kept track of the core defensive players.)  They do return 5 of top 10 defensive players.  They return a guy that had 10INT's last year.

Did you know that Springfield is only good on turf and not on grass?

Gotta know the teams. Can't just number everything.

Ok but the team finished 10-2 last year.  One turf loss and one grass loss.  The 10 scheduled games this year 9 are on turf, and one is at Brockport St on grass.  At this point I am not sure if they will win or lose at Brockport St. I don't know what they have coming back from a 4-6 team. 

So Springfield plays well on turf.

There could be a team that plays perfect on Saturday with the wind blowing 5mph from the east on a overcast day when there are 1200+ fans and they run out of hot dogs with 5:36 left in the 4QTR.  I am taking that team if they are returning nearly 100% of thier offense and 56% of the defense that finished in the d3football poll top 10.  No matter how they play where.

We will just have to wait and see what the pollster's say.  My gut tells me they will be in the top 10.

[Mr. Ypsi]

K-Mack...anxious to see your top 25. 

I think that anwsers your question.  I think we all are anxious to see your poll.

By the way, Pat would like you all to know that you're eager to see the Top 25, not anxious.

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Isn't that a bit presumptious in assuming our view of your picks?

Some of us may be eager; others may be anxious (some may even be in utter dread)!

[frank uible]

Why don't we wait until the games are played?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Why don't we wait until the games are played?

And talk about what all summer - baseball?!

[gordonmann]

Why don't we wait until the games are played?

We'll probably do both -- we'll let the games play out but talk about them before they do.

People who aren't interested aren't obligated to participate.

[union89]

Why don't we wait until the games are played?

In my opinion, because of the title: "Pre-Season Poll".  Prognostication!!

[JT]

Here is the Street & Smith poll as posted by our friend at BridgewaterFootball.com.  Check out No. 24.

http://bridgewaterfootball.blogspot.com/2007/06/bc-ranked-no-17-by-street-smith.html

coast guard?  Coast.... Coast Guard? Coast Guard?

I remember when coast guard was good (96-98ish) but they are not good anymore. They went from LL doormat to kicking the crap out of the NEFC in one year.  Does that deserve a preseason ranking? sorry, no. not by any means.  Will the SID at coast guard roll with this or what?

Coast Guard?

(will be walking around all week saying "Coast Guard? Coast Guard!?!?!?"

Friggin' gro.  I'm doing the same thing.