D-3 Players in the Pros

[Teamski]

Best of luck to Bryan Robinson, ranked 47th overall in the DE position.  I hope he finds some pro action!!

-Ski

[retagent]

What amazes me when I see these rankings, is how poorly some teams do with such highly regarded players, and how well others, including my alma mater, St John's do, with so few. And some want to say that coaching isn't that important. This is not a one year observation.

[kubiack78]

WW had a player only was there for one year 1989 (Joe Panos)  who ended up walking on to Wisconsin  became a senior capt.  and won  a rose bowl.  Had a decent career with the Eagles and Bills on the OL.

Hey, as a Birds fan, I remember that guy.

Panos was short for something Greek and much longer.

might have been something longer but he was just joe Panos when I knew him... he was a man child at the time. UW turned him into a stud.

[Pat Coleman]

One or two players out of 22 starters isn't enough to make that kind of a difference, retagent -- that's probably why.

[footballfan413]

The overall rankings are more important to see where our guys stack up at this link.


http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=ILB&draftyear=2008&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC

Studebaker                 15th     OLB
Garcon                        37th      WR
Robinson                     47th      DE
Raebel                        65th      ILB  (was as high as 50th during season but doesn't have a 40 time listed yet)   
Jones                          64th     QB
Barmore                      61st      QB
Ramseier                     64th    OG
Freeman                     83rd     OLB

I may have missed someone.  Anyway, the point is that several D-3 players are being ranked in the top 65 of all levels.  Pretty impressive.

[frank uible]

If those rankings are taken as absolutely accurate and perfectly reflective of a common evaluation by all 32 NFL teams at the time of the draft (one huge and impossible "if"), then Studebaker will be drafted (approximately late in the 5th round depending on the teams' perceptions at that time of their needs for OLBs relative to other player personnel needs), and none of the others will be.

[footballfan413]

I think most of us understand the odds of being drafted out of D-3 but the two that were last season are on active rosters right now.  Stanley is playing special teams for the Rams and Allen just signed a 3 year deal with the Chiefs.

[smedindy]

Drafted or not, the NFL very rarely misses a player that can play. Baseball and hockey trap deserving players in the minors, and many NBA caliber players wind up in Europe for a stretch because of the contract situations in the NBA, but the NFL usually gets it right.

[K-Mack]

The overall rankings are more important to see where our guys stack up at this link.


http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=ILB&draftyear=2008&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC

Studebaker                 15th     OLB
Garcon                        37th      WR
Robinson                     47th      DE
Raebel                        65th      ILB  (was as high as 50th during season but doesn't have a 40 time listed yet)   
Jones                          64th     QB
Barmore                      61st      QB
Ramseier                     64th    OG
Freeman                     83rd     OLB

I may have missed someone.  Anyway, the point is that several D-3 players are being ranked in the top 65 of all levels.  Pretty impressive.

Robinson was probably the only other guy I was certain would get a shot. Have heard good things about Freeman, although I wonder if they would try to make him play another position, like strong safety. Raebel seems like an interesting prospect, he definitely has the size and was a D3 stud.

Sounds like 1-2 draftees at most, then a handful of guys who will get free-agent shots to impress/camp invites.

Also plenty of time for things to change between now and draft day

[Knightstalker]

I wonder is Studebaker has a cousin named Rambler?  It is a good linebackers name though.

[retagent]

Maybe Kurt Ramler (SJU alum and current Carlton coach) is close enough. Thatnks Pat for that bit of wisdom.  . Does the sun rise in the east too?

[CardsWr13]

I would not say that the NFL gets it right all the time.  You have examples such as Kurt Warner out there, and the bottom line is that the NFL can not get to everybody.   Mainly because DIII games are not broadcasted except for the championship.   Unless you put up ungodly stats the nfl at first might not look at you.  That's why organizations such as the Af2 are important.  Even though most people feel the Af2 is not a big league, it's a start.  I think the total is 65 players from this past AF2 season have been signed to Arena Football 1 contracts.  Af2 can be a great stepping stone for the d3 athlete.  The Af2 is using us to help find them players.
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[Ron Boerger]

Enough plugging your site already.  You've done it up and down every football board here.  If you want to advertise talk to Pat and get his (very reasonable) rates.

[KitchenSink]

Derek Stanley had 6 kick returns today with a long of 38, plus a 10 yard punt return.

[CardsWr13]

Enough plugging your site already.  You've done it up and down every football board here.  If you want to advertise talk to Pat and get his (very reasonable) rates.

Why does it bother you that we are offering something to players to help them further their football career.  Actually, we were fortunate enough to receive a phone call two days ago, from a parent of a graduating dIII player explaining how happy he was to have seen our post here on the DIII message boards because our site was giving his son another outlet to further his career.  Being a former DIII player I understand the struggle it takes to get into the professinal leagues(whether I was good enough or not, references on my success are available through DIII football.com).  I'm sorry if it bothers you that I'm trying to help my former and future colleagues.