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the_apprentice

Some tough road trips over to Storm Lake for everyone in the league, I understand, but it makes you wonder how BV has been able to overcome a long road trip nearly every game!

Congrats to BV on the league crown.  From an entertainment standpoint, I hope Loras and BV are able to meet in a re-match Saturday night.  However as a Beaver fan, it'll be a challenge to beat a quality team like Loras for a third straight time, so I'll be rooting for someone to knock off Loras and hopefully BV can take care of business on their end.

The Piano Man

well if you're hoping for somebody to knock off loras, i know who it will be. it's going to be the coe college kohawks. they'll take care of cornell tomorrow night, then loras and then move right on down into storm lake and take care of the beavers, just like they did earlier this year.

another thing, i read the negative feedback on the coe college student announcers. all i have to say is hey, if i wanted to fall asleep during a broadcast, i'd listen to any other school in iiac's commentators. these two young men not only give you updates on scores and keep you into the game, but they also make the listening very entertaining. they have a true passion for the kohawks which shines throughout their broadcast...i also know, for a fact, that one of them loves meatloaf, which automatically makes him alright in my book.

birds of prey

Quote from: The Piano Man on February 25, 2008, 06:34:35 PM
well if you're hoping for somebody to knock off loras, i know who it will be. it's going to be the coe college kohawks. they'll take care of cornell tomorrow night, then loras and then move right on down into storm lake and take care of the beavers, just like they did earlier this year.

another thing, i read the negative feedback on the coe college student announcers. all i have to say is hey, if i wanted to fall asleep during a broadcast, i'd listen to any other school in iiac's commentators. these two young men not only give you updates on scores and keep you into the game, but they also make the listening very entertaining. they have a true passion for the kohawks which shines throughout their broadcast...i also know, for a fact, that one of them loves meatloaf, which automatically makes him alright in my book.

Hahaha...if I were a betting man, I'd guess you were one of those announcers and took a little offense to that. But that's okay...you're just a student announcer and we should all be open to criticism in order to get better. By the way, I haven't heard much negative feedback towards the Loras announcers, so they must be doing a pretty fair job to this point.

And, FYI, the only Coe team that has a chance to make it to the NCAA tournament by running the table from here on out is the women's team who hung with Simpson the whole way last Wednesday night. On the men's side, the Coe men cannot simply not measure up to the size that the Loras guards bring to the table. Kuenstling can only do so much and even he can't stop White and Slater. Look at the box scores from the first two meetings. The only thing that will keep the Kohawks in it will be its ability to shoot from the outside. Would have been more than an 8 point win at Eby had the Duhawks shot better from the FT line.
"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift."

duhawk

Tough loss for the Duhwaks on Sat. it would have been nice to have the rematch at the AWC in front of the home fans.  As others have said, though, I would bet the BV coaches and players are a little uneasy about the prospects of beating Loras three times(especially twice in one week), an extrememly tough task for two pretty evenly matched teams. By no means is that guaranteed though with a couple of unpredictable games for both Loras and BV before that.

If there is a rematch, I'm predicting Kolze to have a big night. Nothing like shutting someone down twice to relax and have him go off for 20.

The Piano Man

i'd like to first make it known that i am not one of the announcers, scout's honor...you make a good point about the free-throw shooting of the duhawks that game, but the kohawks were even worse...i've been watching games here for almost four years and that's the worst i've ever seen the kohawks play. if kuenstling stays out of foul trouble, the kohawks should have no problem with this one.
another thing, the kohawks have multiple weapons from the outside including brungard who is a senior and has ice in his veins. parent, stanfield, and hanna as well. one thing the kohawks have is spread-out scoring. you can't cue in on one guy aside from kuenstling who isn't leading the team in scoring by a jaw-dropping amount every game. this game will come down to turnovers and the kohawks learning to deal with the slow-down pace the duhawks put forth every time they face each other.
something to think about...after losing the dominant player in IIAC history, kilburg, the kohawks bounce back with a third place finish in the conference. that's a great story within itself. you have to respect the job juckem has done and the seniors who have led this team through the ups and down of the season.
juckem -- iiac coach of the year
kuenstling -- iiac player of the year
kehe -- iiac rebounder of the year

The Show

Quote from: The Piano Man on February 25, 2008, 08:17:02 PM
juckem -- iiac coach of the year
kuenstling -- iiac player of the year

I'm guessing you're joking or are just clueless as to how that actually works.
Sometimes You're the Windshield & Sometimes You're the Bug!

Klopenhiemer

Quote from: The Piano Man on February 25, 2008, 06:34:35 PM
well if you're hoping for somebody to knock off loras, i know who it will be. it's going to be the coe college kohawks. they'll take care of cornell tomorrow night, then loras and then move right on down into storm lake and take care of the beavers, just like they did earlier this year.

another thing, i read the negative feedback on the coe college student announcers. all i have to say is hey, if i wanted to fall asleep during a broadcast, i'd listen to any other school in iiac's commentators. these two young men not only give you updates on scores and keep you into the game, but they also make the listening very entertaining. they have a true passion for the kohawks which shines throughout their broadcast...i also know, for a fact, that one of them loves meatloaf, which automatically makes him alright in my book.

Well if you are no the student announcer yourself, then I assume it is your son!
"If Rome was built in a day, then we would have hired their contractor"

birds of prey

Quote from: The Piano Man on February 25, 2008, 08:17:02 PM
i'd like to first make it known that i am not one of the announcers, scout's honor...you make a good point about the free-throw shooting of the duhawks that game, but the kohawks were even worse...i've been watching games here for almost four years and that's the worst i've ever seen the kohawks play. if kuenstling stays out of foul trouble, the kohawks should have no problem with this one.
another thing, the kohawks have multiple weapons from the outside including brungard who is a senior and has ice in his veins. parent, stanfield, and hanna as well. one thing the kohawks have is spread-out scoring. you can't cue in on one guy aside from kuenstling who isn't leading the team in scoring by a jaw-dropping amount every game. this game will come down to turnovers and the kohawks learning to deal with the slow-down pace the duhawks put forth every time they face each other.
something to think about...after losing the dominant player in IIAC history, kilburg, the kohawks bounce back with a third place finish in the conference. that's a great story within itself. you have to respect the job juckem has done and the seniors who have led this team through the ups and down of the season.
juckem -- iiac coach of the year
kuenstling -- iiac player of the year
kehe -- iiac rebounder of the year

Oh my, you claim how balanced Coe is and fail to even mention the only team in the IIAC with four guys averaging double figures in the Duhawks. Just wanted to remind you why the Duhawks have been dominant over the Kohawks the last couple years in which they've won the last 5 meetings.

Juckem's a great coach, but he is not deserving of CotY. Your other two awards are rediculous too. I know you're kidding, at least I hope you are. Should be a great battle on Thursday, however, first you should worry about Cornell who can absolutely stroke it from the outside. Once you beat them, then we'll talk some more!
"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift."

Kohawk Krazy

Quote from: birds of prey on February 25, 2008, 09:12:03 PM
Quote from: The Piano Man on February 25, 2008, 08:17:02 PM
i'd like to first make it known that i am not one of the announcers, scout's honor...you make a good point about the free-throw shooting of the duhawks that game, but the kohawks were even worse...i've been watching games here for almost four years and that's the worst i've ever seen the kohawks play. if kuenstling stays out of foul trouble, the kohawks should have no problem with this one.
another thing, the kohawks have multiple weapons from the outside including brungard who is a senior and has ice in his veins. parent, stanfield, and hanna as well. one thing the kohawks have is spread-out scoring. you can't cue in on one guy aside from kuenstling who isn't leading the team in scoring by a jaw-dropping amount every game. this game will come down to turnovers and the kohawks learning to deal with the slow-down pace the duhawks put forth every time they face each other.
something to think about...after losing the dominant player in IIAC history, kilburg, the kohawks bounce back with a third place finish in the conference. that's a great story within itself. you have to respect the job juckem has done and the seniors who have led this team through the ups and down of the season.
juckem -- iiac coach of the year
kuenstling -- iiac player of the year
kehe -- iiac rebounder of the year

Oh my, you claim how balanced Coe is and fail to even mention the only team in the IIAC with four guys averaging double figures in the Duhawks. Just wanted to remind you why the Duhawks have been dominant over the Kohawks the last couple years in which they've won the last 5 meetings.

Juckem's a great coach, but he is not deserving of CotY. Your other two awards are rediculous too. I know you're kidding, at least I hope you are. Should be a great battle on Thursday, however, first you should worry about Cornell who can absolutely stroke it from the outside. Once you beat them, then we'll talk some more!

I'll argue a few things in your post here, but I do think the Duhawks will play a great game against the Kohawks on Thursday night.

1.  Loras having four players that average double figures is just amazing.  Honestly, that is not an easy feat.

2. I don't think Loras has dominated Coe the past five years.  This year alone, Coe led the first 37 minutes of the game in Dubuque and the one in CR was close the whole way.

3.  Juckem probably won't win coach of the year for finishing third, nor do I think he should.  To say that Kyle Kuenstling shouldn't be considered and have a chance for Player of the Year is just stupid.  In conference play, he ranks 4th in scoring at 15.6 points, 4th in Rebounding at 7.0, 6th in FG% at 52.8, 4th in Assists at 3.19, 7th in Blocked Shots at 0.79 and 4th in Assist/Turnover Ratio at 1.06.  Those numbers should put him up for consideration I would think.

4. Coe-Cornell games are usually pretty tough, but the Kohawks have now won 10 in a row against the "rival" from Cornell.  I'm thinking win #11 in a row tomorrow night.

-GO Kohawks!!!

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Klopenhiemer on February 25, 2008, 12:33:11 PM
Quote from: birds of prey on February 25, 2008, 11:31:40 AM
Thanks for seeing where I'm coming from. As for Kolze, he's 100 percent. Hasn't shown ill effects of that ankle in quite some time. BV must just have his number.

I look forward to the rematch this Saturday. Cross your fingers nothing gets in the way of that. lol.

Well in all reality I hope that something does get in the way of that.  Beating a team 3 times in one season is very VERY hard. 

Ah, yes, the old "it's tough to beat a team three times" cliche. Believe me, this is one cliche that is not supported by either logic or evidence.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

duhawkdanran

Here are the Top 5 leaders in the key stat categories:

SCORING
1.White, Kyle-LOR          17.9
2.Daugherty, Tyler-DBQ 17.1
3.LaDew, Griffin-COR     16.4
4.Kuenstling, Kyle-COE  15.6
5.Wagner, Andre-BVU    15.6

REB
1.Ruckebeil, Zac-LUT       8.6
2.White, Kyle-LOR.          8.5
3.Dunlavy, Tim-SIM         7.3
4.Kuenstling, Kyle-COE   7.0
5.Daugherty, Tyler-DBQ  6.4

FG %
1.Pedersen, Keith-CEN   .639
2.Schmitt, Brad-WAR      .569
3.White, Kyle-LOR          .557
4.Stribe, Kyle-BVU          .549
5.Fogleman, Brian-BVU  .529

The players in bold are in 2 or more of these categories. After looking at these stats I believe that Kyle White should repeat as player of the year in IIAC.

My top 5 (and wagner and white are very close):

1.Kyle White
1.Andre Wagner
3.Tyler Daugherty
4.Kyle Kuenstling
5. Griffin LaDew

If there is a possibility of co-MVP I would give it to both White and Wagner, after seeing both play, they are incredible at their positions. Top notch players.

SLP-O-8

You have ONE advantage over me.....you can kiss my a$$ and I can't!!

doolittledog

Quote from: SLP-O-8 on February 26, 2008, 05:46:28 AM
Is there anywhere to watch tonights games?

Besides the home teams gyms???   ;D

I just had to do that.  I haven't heard of any video steaming as of yet.

Hey Loras fans...don't be afraid of posting on this sites football board like you do on the basketball board.  Last year Loras was the only school that didn't have anybody posting.  It doesn't matter that the Loras football team isn't as good as the football team.  Your input on your school is always appreciated. 

du-sz

Quote from: doolittledog on February 26, 2008, 07:55:41 AM

Hey Loras fans...don't be afraid of posting on this sites football board like you do on the basketball board.  Last year Loras was the only school that didn't have anybody posting.  It doesn't matter that the Loras football team isn't as good as the football team.  Your input on your school is always appreciated. 

Well, if you look at how many posts and how long most Loras posters have been members, many of us just got involved in the d3sports' message boards.  I'm sure once fall rolls around we'll have a little more to say.  Although, I can't promise it will be nearly as much.  haha
Not going to lie...Dewey is a pretty good looking bird/furry beaked body builder.

birds of prey

Quote from: birds of prey on February 25, 2008, 09:12:03 PM
Oh my, you claim how balanced Coe is and fail to even mention the only team in the IIAC with four guys averaging double figures in the Duhawks. Just wanted to remind you why the Duhawks have been dominant over the Kohawks the last couple years in which they've won the last 5 meetings.

uckem's a great coach, but he is not deserving of CotY. Your other two awards are rediculous too. I know you're kidding, at least I hope you are. Should be a great battle on Thursday, however, first you should worry about Cornell who can absolutely stroke it from the outside. Once you beat them, then we'll talk some more!
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I'll argue a few things in your post here, but I do think the Duhawks will play a great game against the Kohawks on Thursday night.

1.  Loras having four players that average double figures is just amazing.  Honestly, that is not an easy feat.

2. I don't think Loras has dominated Coe the past five years.  This year alone, Coe led the first 37 minutes of the game in Dubuque and the one in CR was close the whole way.

3.  Juckem probably won't win coach of the year for finishing third, nor do I think he should.  To say that Kyle Kuenstling shouldn't be considered and have a chance for Player of the Year is just stupid.  In conference play, he ranks 4th in scoring at 15.6 points, 4th in Rebounding at 7.0, 6th in FG% at 52.8, 4th in Assists at 3.19, 7th in Blocked Shots at 0.79 and 4th in Assist/Turnover Ratio at 1.06.  Those numbers should put him up for consideration I would think.

4. Coe-Cornell games are usually pretty tough, but the Kohawks have now won 10 in a row against the "rival" from Cornell.  I'm thinking win #11 in a row tomorrow night.

-GO Kohawks!!!
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I said the Duhawks have won the past 5 meetings, not dominated the last five years, but how much more dominating can it get with 5 straight wins...how bout #6? And Cornell will give the Kohawks a good run tonight, you can count on that!
"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift."