MBB: American Rivers Conference

[Klopenhiemer]

Klop, I apologize that you were so offended - that was not my intention.

Obviously the ONLY time that the "it's tough to beat a team 3 times" cliche comes into play is if one team won the first two games.  I simply sought to see if your 'evidence' was relevant - it turns out it was not.

No offense intended, but it is still an illogical and historically wrong cliche.  If you are a gambler, if one team has won the first two times BET on them the third time!  You will win far more often than you will lose.

You did not offend me what so ever.  If you did offend me I would not have used language like I respect your opinion, and I never refuted. 

I was merely trying to make my point.  I am sorry if I was harsh, I wish for no hard feelings.  I do read a lof of what you write, and it is very insightful. 

So...there is my olive branch

[Klopenhiemer]

Don't be so thin-skinned.

Klop eats too much to be thin-skinned, trust me!   

That is a very good point

[Klopenhiemer]

Ypsi, my research was based off a BV season where they played a team three times.  I was not looking at who had won the first or the second.  I was not divulging that deep into.  I was merely taking this for face value.  Beating a team 3 times in one season is a difficult task, and from MY PERSONAL experiences, is something that I have seen on very rare occasion.  I did not take into consideration who won game one, who was the underdog, and who's mother was in the 4th row with her top off. 

As I have stated twice over now, I did not refute what Greg was saying, I did agree with his logic, I was merely trying to show my logic, wheather you thought it is illogical is for you to decide. 

One thing that has been mentioned time and time again is that you are tried of coachspeak, and sports cliches.  I get tried of a few people who seem to deam themselves and their explanations as "hollier than all".  For all intensive purposes this is a chat room, where ideas are expressed.  You have yours, and I have mine.  This is a great way to share ideas, and learn something new.  This is not a place to give sermon or lecture. 

You both seem to have a very high ideology regarding the game of basketball.  I can respect that.  I hope that you are both putting this to good use, either by coaching, speaking at coaching clinincs, but not speading creamy blather all over internet message boards. 

Why are you so defensive? There's nothing "holier than thou" at all about what Mr. Y or I have said. It's a simple, polite Internet debate. For all intents and purposes, it's ultimately of no great import to anyone involved. We chose a factual approach to our argument, and you chose an anecdotal approach. Doing so was strictly your call, not ours.

It's really not that big of a deal. Don't be so thin-skinned.

My olive branch is extended due to my rudeness.   

[Klopenhiemer]

I did not take into consideration who won game one, who was the underdog, and who's mother was in the 4th row with her top off.

The consideration level would probably hinge upon how hot the mother in the 4th row was...

All I will say is that she walked in looking like Janet Jackson, and walked out looking like Freddie Jackson. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Klop, it's all good - and +k to prove it!

[Klopenhiemer]

Klop, it's all good - and +k to prove it!

Right back at you

[youcantseemestill]

Anyone on here giving UD any shot at BV? 

I am not.  I think the Beavers win by at least 15. 

I might make the trek up to Dubuque to see Loras's new gym.  I am picking Coe in that one for two reasons:
1) Coe is my team
2) It is super hard to beat a team three times in one year (or so I have read)

[Dr. Phil]

I am seeing on the national weather map that IA is going to be hit hard with snow.......is the Coe/Loras game in question for tonight?

[Kohawk Krazy]

I am seeing on the national weather map that IA is going to be hit hard with snow.......is the Coe/Loras game in question for tonight?

I don't think so.  It's tournament time and I'm sure the Kohawks will leave soon enough that they can get the game in.

BV lays the wood to Dubuque tonight, winning by 21

Coe trails most of the game, rallies to send the game to overtime, where Kyle Kuenstling takes over and leads the team to a 1 point win...

[doolittledog]

I am just about the biggest Dubuque fan out there and I don't see them beating BV tonight.  I think it's a matchup thing.  Dubuque I think would have played Loras close but I don't see that happening at BV.

Then again BV did lose @ Central and Dubuque beat Central 3 times this year 

Either way I will be listening to the game over the internet tonight. 

[keith45]

I am seeing on the national weather map that IA is going to be hit hard with snow.......is the Coe/Loras game in question for tonight?

BV lays the wood to Dubuque tonight, winning by 21

UD's guards are a handfull..if they get hot, they may be able to force Wagner to shoot more than he wants and get BV into a rushed game...if Tyler and the Loras transfer can hit 3-4 3's each, this might be a game..I'm picking the upset, UD by 6

[doolittledog]

I am seeing on the national weather map that IA is going to be hit hard with snow.......is the Coe/Loras game in question for tonight?

BV lays the wood to Dubuque tonight, winning by 21

UD's guards are a handfull..if they get hot, they may be able to force Wagner to shoot more than he wants and get BV into a rushed game...if Tyler and the Loras transfer can hit 3-4 3's each, this might be a game..I'm picking the upset, UD by 6

Keith is a bigger fan than me...and that's not just because he is 6'6 and I am 5'6  He actually played the game and can break it down.  Hopefully your prediction comes true for the Spartans tonight.  When I saw them against Wartburg last week they looked much improved over last year.  The Spartan men and women both have 1st year coaches and both improved over last year.  Fun to see. 

[keith45]

I am seeing on the national weather map that IA is going to be hit hard with snow.......is the Coe/Loras game in question for tonight?

BV lays the wood to Dubuque tonight, winning by 21

UD's guards are a handfull..if they get hot, they may be able to force Wagner to shoot more than he wants and get BV into a rushed game...if Tyler and the Loras transfer can hit 3-4 3's each, this might be a game..I'm picking the upset, UD by 6

Keith is a bigger fan than me...and that's not just because he is 6'6 and I am 5'6  He actually played the game and can break it down.  Hopefully your prediction comes true for the Spartans tonight.  When I saw them against Wartburg last week they looked much improved over last year.  The Spartan men and women both have 1st year coaches and both improved over last year.  Fun to see. 

LOL to the 6'6..I was a whopping 6-4 180lbs my college career, but somehow the program said 6'6 200lbs!!

but the flip side is true as well...if those 2 shoot bad or take shots that are not in the flow and miss them, UD loses by 20
The loss of Dre Porter really hurt, I think he hurt his hand..he had 16 against Iowa State, and is an athletic 3 man who would cause BV some fits with his size..

[doolittledog]

The program never lies, Keith...I will say you are 6'4 now because age has worn you down!!!

I think Dre Porter broke his hand.  I heard them say he hurt his hand and was going to try to play through it but that only lasted a game or two before they shut him down for the season.  Too bad because he was a good player and they are playing well right now. 

[keith45]

The program never lies, Keith...I will say you are 6'4 now because age has worn you down!!!

I think Dre Porter broke his hand.  I heard them say he hurt his hand and was going to try to play through it but that only lasted a game or two before they shut him down for the season.  Too bad because he was a good player and they are playing well right now. 

yeah, that one hurt..he has some talent!
Hey, I tried to add you on myspace, but you have like 18 levels of security on there!!