MBB: American Rivers Conference

[dunkin3117]

Figured we could get through mid-week before touching on the weekend slate.

[AndOne]

The definition of a possession in basketball is debatable, so it's definitely not a dumb question. The main issue is how to handle offensive rebounds.
I think an offensive rebound should be seen as extending a single possession, not starting a new one. I think Greg researched this within the NCAA statkeeping guidelines and found the opposite, namely that an offensive rebound starts a new possession.
Depending on which of these two options you use, the points-per-possession stat is affected. I fully agree with Greg's comment yesterday that points-per-possession is the best measure of a team's offense and defense.
(A) A sample scenario : team A misses a shot, gets an o-reb, misses another, gets another o-reb, then makes a layup
I'd see that as a good single possession, since they scored without allowing the opponent to possess the ball. (B) Offensive rebounding is part of offense, defensive rebounding is part of defense.
So, if an offensive rebound "keeps a possession alive," team A scores 2 points per possession, a very good rate. But, if you count this scenario as three possessions, team A has a 0.67 points-per-possession, not real good.
You could also look at it from the perspective of team B, the defense. They allowed 2 points before they were able to regain possession of the ball, a defensive failure I think.
Any particular formula for determining the number of possessions has to decide how to treat offensive rebounds, one way or the other.

A. When a team rebounds a missed shot that hits the rim, the shot clock of course resets. I believe thats viewed as another possession. The ball hitting the rim ends that particular  possession.
If a team shoots an air ball and another guy on the same team "rebounds" the ball, the shot clock, of course, does not reset. Statistically, that situation is basically looked at like a pass within the same possession —the shooter is passing the ball to the guy who "rebounds" the air ball. As the ball doesn't hit rim, and the shot clock doesn't reset, it's just a continuation of the same possession.

B. Offensive rebounding is part of offense, defensive rebounding is part of defense. 
A question which has been debated by basketball purists since the sport was invented and which, coincidentally, is scheduled to finally be decided by means of an official Hearing when Congress reconvenes in January. 😧 🤭 😉

[Greek Tragedy]

So if you are looking at a boxscore, how do you determine how many possessions a team had?

[duckfan41]

Figured we could get through mid-week before touching on the weekend slate.

Just tried an attachment for the first time so we'll see what happens. Otherwise, as you were 😬

[AndOne]

So if you are looking at a boxscore, how do you determine how many possessions a team had?

Read through the play by play (which would be a real pain in the butt)?

[Greek Tragedy]

So if you are looking at a boxscore, how do you determine how many possessions a team had?

Read through the play by play (which would be a real pain in the butt)?

https://www.hoopcoach.org/points-per-possessions/

[AndOne]

So if you are looking at a boxscore, how do you determine how many possessions a team had?

Read through the play by play (which would be a real pain in the butt)?

https://www.hoopcoach.org/points-per-possessions/

Ah, advanced math! 

[Alfredeneumann]

Wartburg beat Cornell 90-77

https://go-knights.net/news/2018/11/13/mens-basketball-knights-open-up-season-with-win-over-cornell-in-buzz-levick-tournament.aspx

Knight's looked good last night. 8-15 point game most of first half, got it to 24 half way thru 2nd. Late 3's by the Rams got it down to 13 at end of game. Knights were really focused on the defensive end,  Smith-Drahos had 5 steals.

New home uni's. Sweet script Knights across the chest!

Rematch next Tuesday in Mt. Vernon.

[dunkin3117]

First off, is anyone else having trouble with the D3 links?  I've got to click on D3 Hockey to get to the boards.

Millikin defeated Coe 85-71.  A rough night from the perimeter for the Kohawks.

Simpson knocked off Wesminster 92-86.  Only 7 players recorded double digit minutes for the Storm, 4 of which were at 25+.  Depth may be a concern come conference play. 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

First off, is anyone else having trouble with the D3 links?  I've got to click on D3 Hockey to get to the boards.

Not following what the problem may have been.

[dunkin3117]

From the D3Hoops page, the drop down links are out of wack.  D3Jobs takes you to D3Hockey, D3Boards takes you to D3Jobs, D3Hockey takes you to D3Boards.  At least it is for me.

[Pat Coleman]

I checked and they are programmed correctly. Are you on a mobile device?

[dunkin3117]

Strange...nope, desktop

[doolittledog]

Dubuque has a junior transfer, Avery Butler. 

27-31 from the field
5-15 from the line

I'm curious to see how this develops over the course of the season. 

[Pat Coleman]

Strange...nope, desktop

Oh, no, I found it. There are two ways at the top of the front page to get to our other sites and I was looking at only one of them.