MBB: American Rivers Conference

Klompen · January 14, 2014, 11:06:45 PM

Hey Doolittle, congrats to the Spartan men and women for their close victories over the Dutch. I really thought it was going to be a case of dejavue for the women, but the last second shot would not fall. Then the men easily lead the first half while UD looked kind of like they were just going through the motions. Then the second half Central seemed to just go through the motions. You have to win the close ones at home. If we had not won against Luther, I would not have expected us to be in the game though, so maybe there is still some hope. The men's game was much closer than the final score.

Boycotting all Dutch letters in the shape of an S!

Winning the close ones was so much better!!! Duh!

Klompen · January 15, 2014, 10:24:20 PM

WB knightvision = no vision

Could get men's live stats until 12:12 left in the game with the Dutch up by 13. Then the stats froze. No wonder I don't have a high opinion of them!

doolittledog · January 15, 2014, 10:55:02 PM

I think Wartburg is the lone hold out in the conference without Stretch Internet. Too bad. Always hard to get road wins in this conference, good job Dutch!

UD and BVU sitting at the top of the conference at the moment at 3-0 and they play each other in Dubuque this weekend. I will be at a swim meet cheering on my daughter and keeping tabs on my phone...thank goodness for twitter and this site

Dubuque 3-0 14-0
BVU 3-0 8-6
Central 2-1 9-5
Loras 2-1 9-5
Coe 1-2 9-5
Wartburg 1-2 7-7
Luther 0-3 8-6
Simpson 0-3 2-12

Games this weekend...
BVU @ UD
Central @ Loras
Luther @ Simpson
Coe @ Wartburg

Floyd in Iowa City · January 17, 2014, 01:42:54 PM

Quote from: doolittledog on January 14, 2014, 07:45:19 PM
I grabbed a beer and sat down in front of the computer, all ready to watch the UD/Luther double header...only to realize that would be Wednesday evening

I did not make that mistake, but I did let life get in the way and only saw the 2nd half.

When I was watching it seemed as if Norris and Frazier were playing like the all-conference players that they are. Dubuque was the best conference foe that the Norse have seen so far. John Androus and Jake Martin did some things for the Norse.

What disappoints me is that Luther was 8-3 with some tough opponents in the non-conference, but in league play they are now 0-3 and the guards did almost nothing against UD. The defense is not as good without Tyler W. around, but it needs to get better and the guard play has to get more consistent again. I guess the game against Simpson is pretty big on Saturday.

Good luck to the Spartans!

Floyd in Iowa City · January 17, 2014, 01:43:32 PM

Quote from: Klompen on January 15, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
WB knightvision = no vision

Could get men's live stats until 12:12 left in the game with the Dutch up by 13. Then the stats froze. No wonder I don't have a high opinion of them!

Agreed!

Maybe Wartburg doesn't care though as the #7 Luther Wrestling team was spanked by the #1 Knights last night. It is amazing all of the good Luther Wrestling teams under Mitchell have rarely even sniffed a shot at the league title.

doolittledog · January 19, 2014, 10:09:59 AM

BVU @ Dubuque from what I could follow on my phone sounded like a good game. Lot's of lead changes and close throughout. From what I could gather, BVU has some height and used that to their advantage to out rebound Dubuque by a decent margin...which in turn meant UD fouled more...which lead to BVU going to the line more. BVU went 22-29 from the line (or there abouts) and UD went 12-15 from the line. Sounds like poor shooting by BVU (or good defense by UD) is what kept UD in the game.

Buena Vista 63 Dubuque 65
Coe 65 Wartburg 71
Central 60 Loras 70
Luther 91 Simpson 95

Dubuque (RV) 4-0 15-0
Loras 3-1 10-5
Buena Vista 3-1 8-7
Central 2-2 9-6
Wartburg 2-2 8-7
Coe 1-3 9-6
Simpson 1-3 3-12
Luther 0-4 8-7

Wednesdays games...
Dubuque @ Coe
Simpson @ Central
Wartburg @ Buena Vista
Loras @ Luther

keith45 · January 21, 2014, 04:15:07 PM

Looks like UD has entered the polls at #25! GO SPARTANS!

doolittledog · January 23, 2014, 07:27:24 AM

Wednesday night games...

Wartburg 67 @ Buena Vista 79 ...AEN thinks to himself "I need a drink...at the Dirty Dog AND the Fainting Goat"
Dubuque 66 @ Coe 56 ...keith45 thinks to himself "I should really start watching these UD games on the computer"
Loras 70 @ Luther 72 ...Floyd thinks to himself "I knew this Norse team was better than their conference record"
Simpson 83 @ Central 84 OT ...Klompen celebrates with a Dutch letter...or 3

Standings...

Dubuque (25) 5-0 16-0
Buena Vista 4-1 9-7
Central 3-2 10-6
Loras 3-2 10-6
Wartburg 2-3 8-8
Coe 1-4 9-7
Luther 1-4 9-7
Simpson 1-4 3-13

Weekend games...

Central @ Buena Vista 4pm
Wartburg @ Simpson 4pm
Luther @ Coe 4pm
Dubuque @ Loras 6pm

Alfredeneumann · January 23, 2014, 08:34:43 AM

Quote from: doolittledog on January 23, 2014, 07:27:24 AM
Wednesday night games...

Wartburg 67 @ Buena Vista 79 ...AEN thinks to himself "I need a drink...at the Dirty Dog AND the Fainting Goat"

Too dang cold to go out and drink, but the fridge @ home was stocked. Jacobsmeier, Diemer, Perkins combined 7 for 30, nuff said.

BandGetsToPlay · January 23, 2014, 10:11:13 AM

Quote from: doolittledog on January 23, 2014, 07:27:24 AM
Wednesday night games...

Wartburg 67 @ Buena Vista 79 ...AEN thinks to himself "I need a drink...at the Dirty Dog AND the Fainting Goat"
Dubuque 66 @ Coe 56 ...keith45 thinks to himself "I should really start watching these UD games on the computer"
Loras 70 @ Luther 72 ...Floyd thinks to himself "I knew this Norse team was better than their conference record"
Simpson 83 @ Central 84 OT ...Klompen celebrates with a Dutch letter...or 3

Standings...

Dubuque (25) 5-0 16-0
Buena Vista 4-1 9-7
Central 3-2 10-6
Loras 3-2 10-6
Wartburg 2-3 8-8
Coe 1-4 9-7
Luther 1-4 9-7
Simpson 1-4 3-13

Weekend games...

Central @ Buena Vista 4pm
Wartburg @ Simpson 4pm
Luther @ Coe 4pm
Dubuque @ Loras 6pm

Not sure what to make of these scores last night, anyone can beat anyone I suppose.

Didn't realize Simpson was 3-13 overall, 1-4 conference. They gave Central a scare though...maybe it's just UD and the rest this season?

doolittledog · January 23, 2014, 10:39:59 AM

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Not sure what to make of these scores last night, anyone can beat anyone I suppose.

Didn't realize Simpson was 3-13 overall, 1-4 conference. They gave Central a scare though...maybe it's just UD and the rest this season?
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Dubuque was fortunate to get a home win against BVU, and fortunate to get a road victory @ Central. Loras could probably be considered a favorite over UD @ home, as should BVU @ home. Dubuque would need some bounces to go their way to run the table in the conference. I do think you can consider the Spartans as among the favorites for the title and starting 5-0 sure helps. The Spartans have a deep bench, play defense well, and have a number of players that can score each game. I would love some more height, but you won't find me complaining. UD was winning conference titles when I was there, then the late 90's - early part of the last decade saw some mighty struggles. I'm happy to see what coach Sieverding has been able to build and hope he sticks around as long as coach Davison did.

doolittledog · January 23, 2014, 12:55:35 PM

Messing around at work...Conference regular season titles/tourney titles...

Buena Vista 11/7
Central 16/1
Coe 2/0
Dubuque 7/1
Loras 6/2
Luther 9/1
Simpson 5/0
Wartburg 21/1

BVU - 26;62;76;97;00;02;03;04;08;09;13 ...00;02;03;04;05;06;12
Central - 30;31;32;36;58;71;77;78;79;80;85;91;92;94;95;10 ...10
Coe - 06;12
Dubuque - 41;44;47;48;86;88;90 ...13
Loras - 44;45;46;50;51;07 ...07;08
Luther - 37;43;49;54;67;82;84;11;13 ...11
Simpson - 40;42;92;95;98
Wartburg - 52;55;59;60;67;68;69;70;71;72;73;74;75;83;87;89;91;93;01;05;06 ...01

Conference titles
Wartburg - 21
Central - 16
BVU - 11
Luther - 9
Dubuque - 7
Loras - 6
Simpson - 5
Coe - 2

Tourney titles
BVU - 7
Loras - 2
Central - 1
Dubuque - 1
Luther - 1
Wartburg - 1
Coe - 0
Simpson - 0

Floyd in Iowa City · January 23, 2014, 01:35:01 PM

Quote from: doolittledog on January 23, 2014, 12:55:35 PM
Messing around at work...Conference regular season titles/tourney titles...

Buena Vista 11/7
Central 16/1
Coe 2/0
Dubuque 7/1
Loras 6/2
Luther 9/1
Simpson 5/0
Wartburg 21/1

BVU - 26;62;76;97;00;02;03;04;08;09;13 ...00;02;03;04;05;06;12
Central - 30;31;32;36;58;71;77;78;79;80;85;91;92;94;95;10 ...10
Coe - 06;12
Dubuque - 41;44;47;48;86;88;90 ...13
Loras - 44;45;46;50;51;07 ...07;08
Luther - 37;43;49;54;67;82;84;11;13 ...11
Simpson - 40;42;92;95;98
Wartburg - 52;55;59;60;67;68;69;70;71;72;73;74;75;83;87;89;91;93;01;05;06 ...01

Conference titles
Wartburg - 21
Central - 16
BVU - 11
Luther - 9
Dubuque - 7
Loras - 6
Simpson - 5
Coe - 2

Tourney titles
BVU - 7
Loras - 2
Central - 1
Dubuque - 1
Luther - 1
Wartburg - 1
Coe - 0
Simpson - 0

A few things:

B.V. has been the best hoops program overall since I graduated from high school in 1991.

It seems like Central has been a very steady basketball program.

Wartburg was UCLA within the Iowa Conference from 1967-1975 (The Bruins had Kareem and Bill Walton at the same time and were winning national titles). Buzz did a great job with that program.

Wartburg stole Luther's thunder in hoops in some ways as the Norse had the all-time winning percentage in IIAC play in the first 40 years of the league (1922-1961)
School W-L Pct.
Luther 265-158 .626
Simpson 289-234 .553
Wartburg 166-160 .509
Central 272-279 .494
Dubuque 200-213 .484
Parsons 229-256 .472
Iowa Wesleyan 207-251 .452
Upper Iowa 193-258 .428
Buena Vista 154-247 .384
William Penn 115-276 .294

Per The Iowa Conference Story (Loras not listed)

Floyd in Iowa City · January 23, 2014, 01:50:49 PM

Quote from: doolittledog on January 23, 2014, 07:27:24 AM
Wednesday night games...

Wartburg 67 @ Buena Vista 79 ...AEN thinks to himself "I need a drink...at the Dirty Dog AND the Fainting Goat"
Dubuque 66 @ Coe 56 ...keith45 thinks to himself "I should really start watching these UD games on the computer"
Loras 70 @ Luther 72 ...Floyd thinks to himself "I knew this Norse team was better than their conference record"
Simpson 83 @ Central 84 OT ...Klompen celebrates with a Dutch letter...or 3

Standings...

Dubuque (25) 5-0 16-0
Buena Vista 4-1 9-7
Central 3-2 10-6
Loras 3-2 10-6
Wartburg 2-3 8-8
Coe 1-4 9-7
Luther 1-4 9-7
Simpson 1-4 3-13

Weekend games...

Central @ Buena Vista 4pm
Wartburg @ Simpson 4pm
Luther @ Coe 4pm
Dubuque @ Loras 6pm

I am not sure Luther is much better right now than the IIAC record of 1-4. Yes, they lost two very high scoring close games on the road to Central and Simpson that they could have won, but they also blew a 16-point lead at home to Loras but held on to win.

They really needed those Central and Simpson games.

It seemed like the Norse were ready for IIAC play as they did well with a schedule of La Crosse, Bethel, Stout, River Falls, Mount Mercy, and Northwestern. But perhaps some of the close wins and close losses just showed that the Norse were going to have a bunch of those games in league play.

John Androus (21.2 ppg, 9.6 rbs, 4.2 assists in league play) has been great all season and hit the game winner last night. However, some of the three-point shooting and guard play has been more up-and-down in league play than in non-conference.

With the guys not playing great team defense or having Tyler W. on the back end, a lot of games are going to be coin flips or worst the rest of the way. I hope I am wrong!

They still are fun to watch though for the most part.

Floyd in Iowa City · January 23, 2014, 01:56:46 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcjJAQod-TU

Androus Game Winner vs Loras

Go Norse!