MBB: American Rivers Conference

Started by sidelines, May 02, 2005, 09:03:57 PM

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PainTrain

Rome wasn't built in a day and everyone knows that. Wartburg and Central and other schools didn't build programs overnight. Even when Coe won a share of the IIAC in football in 02', that just set the goals even higher. But 3 out of the last 4 is something to be excited about. Coach Juckem did look like Brase on speed-but I don't think your comments about his players getting jumpy is on line. His passion is evident and you can see it in his players and by talking to them that they would run through a brick wall for him. He was sweating like an "UIU football player trying to read" though during that game. But I recall Peth was the one who got t-ed up, not Juckem....
The only place where success comes before work; is in the dictionary.

Charlie Kohawk

Quote from: PainTrain on February 06, 2006, 11:30:11 PM
He was sweating like an "UIU football player trying to read" though during that game.

You guys are killing me!
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

coocooforcoekohawk

Hey Hey!  Coe garnered some votes this week.  Only three spots away from being ranked.   This might be the year we break into the top 25!  How old is Juckem anyway?  I figure he is 32.
I'm so happy 'cause today I found my friends. They're in my head.  I'm so ugly, that's okay, 'cause so are you!

pdmcgee

Sportsknight-

Wow!!  Never thought I would have heard you say any of that stuff, but I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.  However, you may be right about last years team never peaking, but I feel like if the season would have been a week or two longer the Knights would have been one of the best teams in the country.  That is a big if though. BV was a better team last year and early season losses cost Wartburg.   Another big if is whether the knights can finish strong and get a coe loss and repeat as conference champions.  However, if they don't the beauty of the conference championship is that it is another opportunity, a third season.  Non conference - conference - then conference tourney.  There is another chance and with three solid games you're golden. Steege is the MVP this year regardless and it should be unanimous.  The effort he gives every minute of every game is second to none and I love watching him play as much as I loved to play with him.  Everyone else plays hard too it's just that every game it's different guys scoring and stepping up, why can't it be two or three guys playing consistently well every game?  Good luck to the knights against loras.

Charlie Kohawk

Coe 85
BV 71

Career-high 22 points by the Ax man on 6-9 shooting behind the arc and 4-4 from the line. Coe scored more points by half (50) than they managed in the entire game at Storm Lake (46). Pretty dead crowd, which is no surprise on a weeknight when lots of classes are held.
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

ram_this

I'll agree that Steege is the MVP, but only if Wartburg wins the IIAC title outright. Since 1992, only once has the league MVP not come from the championship team (Kevin Clipperton,  Upper Iowa - 1997).

Since it appears to be a two-team race, I think Kyle Kuenstling is the logical choice for Coe (although Kohawk fans could probably make a case for Mike Kilburg). I might be biased because Kuenstling's scored 70 points in two games against the Rams this season.

Kuenstling's IIAC rankings include 5th in points, 2nd in rebounding, assists and blocks, and fifth in field goal percentage (all rankings higher than Steege).

I think the only debate worth having is who wins if Coe and Wartburg finish with identical records. If statistics are used to break the tie, you'd have to give the edge to Kuenstling right now. I'm sure the seven coaches all have their own system to decide and some might not all look at league rankings.

One side note, since 1984 all Coaches of the Year have come from championship teams.

coocooforcoekohawk

Quote from: Charlie Kohawk on February 08, 2006, 12:10:44 AM

Pretty dead crowd, which is no surprise on a weeknight when lots of classes are held.

Maybe so, but the halftime show was great.  We need to start recruiting that little blond haired kid.  He could shoot!  That whole Xavier's crowd was big.  What is the deal with that?  I noticed, Charlie, that you were wearing one.  Good crowd for a tuesday night.  Quite a few football players were out supporting the cagers.  Not many alumni.  I didn't see any their.  I might have been the only one.
Nice win Kohawks, I'm gonna make the trip to Loras and meet up with a former Kohawk basketballer.  Alumni support in Dubuque!


COOCOOFORCOEKOHAWKS!
I'm so happy 'cause today I found my friends. They're in my head.  I'm so ugly, that's okay, 'cause so are you!

Charlie Kohawk

Quote from: ram_this on February 08, 2006, 12:54:22 AM
I'm sure the seven coaches all have their own system to decide and some might not all look at league rankings.

Aren't there nine teams in the conference? Who doesn't get to vote?
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

ram_this

I'm assuming that the Coe and Wartburg coaches would side with their own players.

Charlie Kohawk

Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on February 08, 2006, 09:16:40 AM
That whole Xavier's crowd was big.  What is the deal with that?

It's Coe's version of the Hawk's Nest, only our student section is called The Nut House. Xavier's is the sponsor and students have gone coocoo for the Coe-Ko-Nut t-shirts. Limited supplies remain, so get yours today!

I'm going to Loras too and won't be working for a change. Say hello coocoo since you know me but I don't know you, by appearance anyway.
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

balla_1982

If Coe and Wartburg tie for the regular season title, the MVP would go to Steege in a landslide.  Why?  Because he's been one of the best in the IIAC in his four years and the other coaches in the conference respect him and will give him his dues.  Kuenstling may be having the better season statistically, but Steege means more to his team, especially this year.  What it will come down to though is Steege is a senior, Kuenstling is a sophomore.  All the coaches who have been in the league for the last few years will give Steege their vote.  My guess would be Kuenstling would get Coe and Cornell's vote while Steege would get the rest.  BUT, Coe is in first all alone right now, so it would be hard not to give it to a Cohawk.

Hawk Sighting

First its KoHawk not CoHawk!  This is for all of you that have this thing for Steege!  As a good student section would chant "OVER RATED (Clap) (Clap) (Clap) (Clap) OVER RATED!!!" 

sportsknight

False.  That is the dumbest chant ever thought up.  What good does it do to say that a team is overrated when you beat them?  Doesn't that diminish the quality of the win your squad just earned?
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Hawk Sighting

 
Quote from: sportsknight on February 08, 2006, 01:46:01 PM
False. That is the dumbest chant ever thought up. What good does it do to say that a team is overrated when you beat them? Doesn't that diminish the quality of the win your squad just earned?


Actually, what I was referring to was the overating of a player not a team.  And not at all does that diminish the winning team, expesially if the winning team has a lower ranking or isnt ranked at all.  Obviously the better team was not the "rated" team.  Some of the comments that I have seen from you in the past makes me sad that I had to take the time to defend my first statement.   

balla_1982

Trust me, I'm not a Wartburg fan; in all honesty I don't like them at all.  But Steege is far from overrated, the guy can play.