MBB: American Rivers Conference

jc21 · February 15, 2006, 10:00:01 PM

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but is it not the announcing team's job to REPORT the game not predict it? Tell us what's happening, not when Schmidt may or may not get a technical. I understand that as students at BV they may be somewhat biased, but this goes beyond bias. These are just two BV fans with microphones whining. We all know that IIAC officials are nowhere near the best, but they make bad calls on BOTH ends. These guys could learn a thing or two by listening to a broadcast on KWAR....

sportsknight · February 15, 2006, 10:00:15 PM

Sounds like the refs are doing a pretty bad job both ways, so I'm not surprised to see a lot of arguing with the calls. I'm not sure Schmidt is complaining as much as the announcers are saying. Even if he is, Schmidt is showing more emotion and fire tonight than I've seen from him in a couple weeks.

And for the record, Steege is pronounced Steg-EE and Peth is said Paith.

Also, is it just me or would it be nice to see a graphic with the score on the screen at all times, rather than just going up arbitrarily throughout the game?

sportsknight · February 15, 2006, 10:01:40 PM

Quote from: jc21 on February 15, 2006, 10:00:01 PM
These guys could learn a thing or two by listening to a broadcast on KWAR....

Good to know I won't much competition if I want to get a job out in Western Iowa...

balla_1982 · February 15, 2006, 10:19:27 PM

The real radio announcer is a lot better, if there was a way to put him with the video it would be good, these guys are just morons.

The Show · February 15, 2006, 10:42:04 PM

Beavers knock off the Knights in Storm Lake tonight. Those extra karma points must have worked Charlie.

I was unimpressed with Schmidt, especially with his reactions to everything tonight. You can definitely tell Steege is the leader of that team.

It's tough to find a pair of guards quicker than Franklin and Wagner. The good news...they're only a soph. and fresh.

Is Wartburg capable of streaming video?

Charlie Kohawk · February 15, 2006, 10:45:47 PM

Woohoo! Way to go Beavers. Those karma points were well worth it Show. Now if I could just get a Coe score.

Charlie Kohawk · February 15, 2006, 10:54:27 PM

Coe wins 70-66! Driver's seat, yeah! Win at home against Simpson on Saturday and the #1 seed is ours. Way to go Kohawks! I don't have any details other than the score, but you definitely rose to the occassion getting a tough road win when it mattered most. Now you control your own destiny.

PainTrain · February 15, 2006, 11:01:51 PM

Hawks win thriller last night, Kohawks in the driver's seat, and Wartburg getting beat-all within 26 hours. Who wants to go to Vegas??

Charlie Kohawk · February 15, 2006, 11:07:40 PM

I do PainTrain, but it'll have to wait until basketball season is over. I don't want to miss a single minute of action at Eby Fieldhouse. They may just blow the roof off of that barn.

PainTrain · February 16, 2006, 07:20:40 AM

hey Charlie, school is cancelled for the day as well....I'm definitely booking my flight to Vegas ASAP! Let me know if you change your mind

coocooforcoekohawk · February 16, 2006, 07:39:27 AM

Quote from: Charlie Kohawk on February 15, 2006, 11:07:40 PM
I don't want to miss a single minute of action at Eby Fieldhouse.

Me Neither!

Way to go Kohawks.

Charlie, are you sure we have the upper hand, I thought they looked at the combined conference records of the teams they have lost to, and whoever lost to the better winning percentage wins the tie breaker. $:-\$

That would give the Wart the upper hand.

Could you go over how the tie break works again?

coocooforcoekohawk · February 16, 2006, 07:44:50 AM

While we're at it, could someone also explain what the tie break is between Dubuque and Luther?

sportsknight · February 16, 2006, 10:57:59 AM

First tie-breaker is always head-to-head. From there, it goes to records against each team in the conference, from the top of the conference to the bottom. In the Wartburg-Coe situation, they split their regular season meetings, so it goes to the records. Both teams split with Loras and BV, swept Simpson (assuming a Coe win Saturday) and Dubuque, but Wartburg lost to Luther while Coe swept the Norse, so Coe gets the tie-breaker. This is a pretty good tie-breaker to use in mid-level ties, but in this situation it actually rewards Coe for losing to a worse team (Central).

As far as Dubuque and Luther go, Luther gets that tie-break by virtue of their win over Wartburg. This will be the same regardless of if both DBQ and Luther win or lose on Saturday. If one wins and the other loses, though, then the winning team gets the bid. That's kind of obviously, but can still get lost in all this tie-breaker talk.

So, assuming the top four teams all win on Saturday (which is a pretty good bet), the seedings would break down like this:
1 - Coe
2 - Wartburg
3 - Loras
4 - BV
5 - Simpson
6 - Luther

Luther would play at Loras and Simpson at BV on Tuesday. The Loras/Luther winner goes to Wartburg on Thursday, while the Simpson/BV winner head to Coe. Winners of the semifinals play at the higher seed, which is another common misconception. Just because Coe has the home-court, they won't play the games in CR if Coe loses somewhere along the way.

Hope that helps.

The Show · February 16, 2006, 12:36:14 PM

The Loras/BV tie breaker would fall all the way down to Simpson. BV swept Simpson while Loras split with them.

This, of course, only comes into play with a BV and Luther win.

coocooforcoekohawk · February 16, 2006, 01:31:29 PM

Quote from: sportsknight on February 16, 2006, 10:57:59 AM

Luther would play at Loras and Simpson at BV on Tuesday. The Loras/Luther winner goes to Wartburg on Thursday, while the Simpson/BV winner head to Coe. Winners of the semifinals play at the higher seed, which is another common misconception.

What if B.V. and Luther win in the first round. Does Luther, with the worst record go to Coe instead of B.V. or are the brackets firm?