MBB: American Rivers Conference

[doolittledog]

So Dubuque is so bad you didn't even put them in the rankings.   

Tell us more, you talk about what schools make the least with the most.  Expand on that a bit and give us your reasons.  It's been awhile since I have been in school.  I would like to hear from you and others your thoughts on this. 

Luther and BV have the biggest student bodies.  Where do they recruit from?  I really have no idea where BV draws from.  Luther I always thought did well from northeast Iowa and from Minnesota as well. 

Who has the best facilities?  And if the top schools have the best facilities,  is anyone realy doing the least with the most? 

Ability to draw from a wide area.  When I was in school Dubuque and Wartburg were the top basketball schools.  Wartburg with pretty much their entire roster made up of Iowa kids and Dubuque drawing from Chicago and New Orleans and Iowa for about a third of the roster.  So, does ability to draw from a wide area mean a whole lot, or the ability to draw talent overide everything. 

[Norse10]

I believe Luther has some of the best facilities in the IIAC along with BV. As all of you know, that doesnt necessarily compound into success. Luther hasnt exactly been the most successfull program in the IIAC over the past decade. We get most of our talent from Eastern Iowa, Small schools in southern minnesota, and every now and then from western Wisconsin. Mostly small school talent in all. Eastern Iowa is tough grounds for us in recruiting. Luther is the second most expensive college in the state and doesnt have near the b-ball tradition of other comparable schools on the Eastern side. When I played, BV had mainly western Iowa guys on their roster. Most of their best players were comprised from this group. I can only think of one college in Western Iowa (Northwestern) besides a couple Juco's spread thin. Most students dont come to Luther to play basketball..are you surprised? Probably not, but they do give scholorships to many, many music majors. Must have a nice endowment set up for this. From past experience, most of the GOOD recruits we lost out on had a great exerience when they came up to the school, only to go elsewhere for financial reasons. You will probably find this more at Luther than others based on the amount it costs to attend...Team this year hasnt started so hot. Keeping faith that they can come together and be competitive in conference play. Have a few nice players but no real leaders or consistency yet. Hopefully this will develop before conference season starts..time is running out...

[Storm-what?]

Well, it looks like Simpson played Augustana a lot close then Coe did. That being said, the Storm record doesn't look too impressive. I hope they can get something going for conference play soon!

I think Central definitely competes for one of the worst basketball schools. Obviously, their athletic programs are strong in many areas- indicating their financial assistance, facilities, etc must be up to par. But basketball seems to be a thorn in their side! Not that they don't have a nice win here or there, but they never seem to be in contention for titles.

[The Show]

I really have no idea where BV draws from.

Are you kidding?  As Lance Harbor once said, "BV is a who's who of western Iowa basketball."  Harlan, Carroll, Manning, Audubon, Denison...just to name a few traditional spots.  BV is starting to dip into the Omaha & Kansas City talent pools as well, which will only make them stronger.

[doolittledog]

I really have no idea where BV draws from.

Are you kidding?  As Lance Harbor once said, "BV is a who's who of western Iowa basketball."  Harlan, Carroll, Manning, Audubon, Denison...just to name a few traditional spots.  BV is starting to dip into the Omaha & Kansas City talent pools as well, which will only make them stronger.

Amazon.com hasn't sent me my order of "BV basketball recruiting: A history, by Lance Harbor" yet.   

If I had to have guessed I would have thought BV recruited western Iowa pretty well.  Just Northwestern, maybe Dortdt and also Morningside and Briar Cliff to recruit against I would guess. 

That is smart of them to recruit Kansas City and Omaha as well.  Pretty large populations and not far to travel. 

I think it's a good idea to have a local area, then perhaps try to hit 1 metro area and try to do that well.  Dubuque, back in my day pretty much recruited the mississippi river border counties from Minnesota to Davenport, then hit the Chicago area.  They were also lucky enough to have an alumnus that was a teacher in New Orleans, so he did some recruiting for us as well.  Dave Crawford, a two time IIAC mvp came from there. 

[The Show]

Amazon.com hasn't sent me my order of "BV basketball recruiting: A history, by Lance Harbor" yet.   

  Add it to your Christmas List!  It's a good read.

[The Show]

BV doesn't play for another week.  You guys are going to have to pick up the slack on this board!

[youcantseeme]

Where are all of the schools traveling for their trips over the holidays?  I think the conference needs to figure out a way to either get more conference games scheduled before break, or make it so all of the conference games are played after break.  It seems strange to have one game only and then a month off from conference. 

[Rock Chalk DuHawk]

Loras plays the 19th at Aurora.  Could be a big win that is much needed for the DuHawks and then they go out to AZ around xmas.

Agreed.  All the conference games should be played after break, what is the point of having one or two conference games so early in the year?

[The Show]

Congrats to Fogleman for making the D3Hoops.com Team of the Week.  Averaged 18 points and 8.5 boards for the week.

BV travels out to Las Vegas to play in the D3 Desert Shootout on Dec. 21st-22nd.

[keith45]

Loras plays the 19th at Aurora.  Could be a big win that is much needed for the DuHawks and then they go out to AZ around xmas.

Can't see Loras beating Aurora this year. AU is off to a hot start, and they have too many athletes for Loras to try and match up with. Larry Welton is a load to deal with, and watch out for Darrick Leonard off the bench. Aurora by 15

[pennstghs]

for anyone who cares-they can take pieces of the old "knights gymnasium" in remembrance of all the great games that they lost there haha jk. i was an old waverly resident and not live in the wittenberg area, as i attend there

[Walston Hoover]

Anyone know if Wednesday night's game is televised?

[WLCALUM83]

Loras plays the 19th at Aurora.  Could be a big win that is much needed for the DuHawks and then they go out to AZ around xmas.

Can't see Loras beating Aurora this year. AU is off to a hot start, and they have too many athletes for Loras to try and match up with. Larry Welton is a load to deal with, and watch out for Darrick Leonard off the bench. Aurora by 15

Per Northern Athletics Conference website, Aurora beat Loras, 99-71. (Edgewood had knocked off the Spartans in a mild in-conference upset last Saturday, so that could have been a "statement game" for AU.)

[doolittledog]

Anyone know if Wednesday night's game is televised?

Haven't noticed any TV listings for the game.

But they are advertising $5 tickets if you pick them up by wednesday before the game.  You can't buy them at the arena their website said.  And you can only buy 10 tickets at a time.  And you would be in the UNI student section.  So, um, I'm thinking you probably wouldn't be interested in those tickets.  Looks like it's radio or internet broadcast for you.