MBB: American Rivers Conference

[doolittledog]

Dubuque wins at Central 75 - 62

Dubuque now 8 - 7 in conference play
Central drops to 6 - 8 in conference play

[doolittledog]

Results from today

Feb. 16 Coe @ Cornell 81-59   
Feb. 16 Dubuque @ Central 75-62   
Feb. 16 Luther @ Loras 43-61   
Feb. 16 Wartburg @ Simpson 65-61

And current standings

x-Buena Vista  13 - 1 
x-Loras 12 - 2 
x-Coe 9 - 6
x-Dubuque 8 - 7
x-Cornell 7 - 7
x-Central 6 - 8 
Wartburg 4 - 10
Simpson 3 - 11
Luther 2 - 12

[Beaver Nation]

First Team (the conference names 7 to each team):
Tyler Daugherty - DBQ
Kyle Kuentsling - COE
Brett DeHoog - CEN
Griffin LaDew - COR
Tim Dunlavy - SIM
Brian Fogleman - BVU
Kyle White - LOR

Conference MVP:
Andre Wagner - BVU

Coach of the Year:
Robbie Sieverding - DBQ

Top Newcomer:
Taylor Blum - DBQ (how could Loras let him get away is beyond comprehension... two thumbs up for the Spartans for utilizing his talent. Lit up the Dutch for 30 points on Saturday!)

[duhawk]

I don't know if i'd say Loras let Blum get away.  He was only enrolled at Loras for a few weeks and I've heard that he wanted to start or at least be the 6th man, and Gorton wasn't willing to promise that. I think in the end he'll wish he stayed as he would probably get much more PT next year as Loras graduates most of their starting  five.  He just wasn't willing to wait. I also think once Daugherty is gone, defenses will be able to focus on him more and I think it might be a little more rough on him.

[SLP-O-8]

BeaverNation-  So you dont think Wagner is on the first team but he receives the MVP honors.

[Kohawk Krazy]

BeaverNation-  So you dont think Wagner is on the first team but he receives the MVP honors.

The MVP doesn't make the All-Conference team.  They have the MVP, then 7 first team members.  I guess you could say he makes first team and there are 8 members, but that isn't how they name it.

http://www.iowaconference.com/men/basketball/all_conference/2007.htm

[SLP-O-8]

Really that interesting.  Dont really understand that but i guess they don't need another honor

[youcantseeme]

I think it is just the assumption that it should be a give in that the MVP is a first team selection.

[duhawkdanran]

Loras only loses two starters and they are both forwards. I don't see how they lose most of their starting line up and Blum would still have to compete for a spot because Centella, Kolze, and Oeth are back for their senior year. Blum just acted like a selfish cry baby and left Loras because he didn't get his way. Sorry to put it that way but thats what he did, and if he isn't a team player he is better off not being part of the family that is Loras basketball.

[birds of prey]

Loras only loses two starters and they are both forwards. I don't see how they lose most of their starting line up and Blum would still have to compete for a spot because Centella, Kolze, and Oeth are back for their senior year. Blum just acted like a selfish cry baby and left Loras because he didn't get his way. Sorry to put it that way but thats what he did, and if he isn't a team player he is better off not being part of the family that is Loras basketball.

Word.

[Klopenhiemer]

If Loras wins out, they will be the #1 seed in the tourney no matter if BV loses another game or not.  BV's loss to Coe will be the tiebreaker in that situation.  They tie in the standings, split with each other, and then (assuming Coe locks up the 3 seed) Loras gains the tiebreaker by sweeping Coe and BV splitting with the Kohawks.

I just wanted to understand this.  Loras has 2 conference losses.  BV only has 1 conference loss.  If both squads win out then Loras is the #1 seed

How can this be?  I can see this if BV drops another game in the conference, but I do not see this happening.  If this is a true statement, please give me more insight into how a 2 loss team can overtake a one loss team. 

[doolittledog]

If Loras wins out, they will be the #1 seed in the tourney no matter if BV loses another game or not.  BV's loss to Coe will be the tiebreaker in that situation.  They tie in the standings, split with each other, and then (assuming Coe locks up the 3 seed) Loras gains the tiebreaker by sweeping Coe and BV splitting with the Kohawks.

I just wanted to understand this.  Loras has 2 conference losses.  BV only has 1 conference loss.  If both squads win out then Loras is the #1 seed

How can this be?  I can see this if BV drops another game in the conference, but I do not see this happening.  If this is a true statement, please give me more insight into how a 2 loss team can overtake a one loss team. 

Loras plays at BV to end the season.  If Loras wins they would each have 2 losses.  Since they would have split the series between them the next tie breaker is records against the next placed team in the conference.  Coe is currently in 3rd place and split with BV while Loras swept Coe.  That would give the title to Loras if Loras wins out. 

[Klopenhiemer]

If Loras wins out, they will be the #1 seed in the tourney no matter if BV loses another game or not.  BV's loss to Coe will be the tiebreaker in that situation.  They tie in the standings, split with each other, and then (assuming Coe locks up the 3 seed) Loras gains the tiebreaker by sweeping Coe and BV splitting with the Kohawks.

I just wanted to understand this.  Loras has 2 conference losses.  BV only has 1 conference loss.  If both squads win out then Loras is the #1 seed

How can this be?  I can see this if BV drops another game in the conference, but I do not see this happening.  If this is a true statement, please give me more insight into how a 2 loss team can overtake a one loss team. 

Loras plays at BV to end the season.  If Loras wins they would each have 2 losses.  Since they would have split the series between them the next tie breaker is records against the next placed team in the conference.  Coe is currently in 3rd place and split with BV while Loras swept Coe.  That would give the title to Loras if Loras wins out. 

Thanks dog.  I knew I was missing something there. 

[doolittledog]

I know the conference tourney adds some excitement and a team that maybe got out slow out of the blocks can use the tourney to get that spot in the NCAA tourney.  But for me it takes away from the season.  A team works their butt off the whole season and could go 15-1 and then 1 bad night out against a team they might have already beat twice during the season and now they stay home from the NCAA tourney.  Doesn't seem right to me...but I know I am in the minority with these thoughts. 

[The Show]

I agree.  But the same could be said for Iowa's high school basketball format.