MBB: American Rivers Conference

[coebball70]

I endured a disappointing evening watching my alma mater Kohawks be humiliated by the Duhawks.  This game was a non-event.  Loras was excellent defensively and the Kohawks were unprepared to compete.  In fact, with 8:30 left in the game, I started the 175 mile return trip in a snowstorm.  Loras was up by 19 points and Coe had no chance to close the gap.  Loras' seniors are finally playing like their basketball clock is ticking down to the end...which it is.  It's going to be some lean years ahead for my beloved Kohawks.  This time, the Duhawks will be ready for the Beavers....good luck Loras!

[keith45]

Who would have thought the Spartans would keep it that close?

Keith hit the nail on the head.  Blum and Daugherty hit 4 & 5 3's respectively.  13 3's kept them in it, but ultimately, BV's bigs were too much.  Fogleman, Cleveland, Arndorfer, and Friedrichsen all had big games for the Beavers.  I think the guards were saving their 3's for Saturday night!

I dont follow BV very closely, were those bigs regular players in BV's rotation (Friedrichsen and Arndofer)? UD shot 85% from the line, 52% from the 3 and 47% from the field, and still lost..and other than McDonald, no one shot bad from the field!! wow, I was imagining a UD-Loras battle for the tourney! Maybe next year

[Full Court Sorcerer]

Now I dont know when if they have alredy voted for MOP but if White didnt lock it up with 24 and 13 in 29 minutes then I dont know who should win MOP.  Especially since Wagner was silent in BV's win.  As I stated earlier I understand the MOP usually goes to the conf. champ but I dont think it is even a question. 

Cmon Duhawks

No doubt in my mind that Kyle White is MOP.  I am a Coe fan and was at the game last night.  Granted, he didn't have to guard Kuenstling last night, with Slater taking over that duty White was able to be fresh on offense.  White showed that he can play inside and outside last night with a nice dunk and some nice outside shots. 

However, I don't think that White and Slater "DOMINATED" inside.  Loras won the game by great outside shooting and dominant defense.  If anyone dominated inside it was the Loras guards like they always have against Coe guards.

[3baller]

## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts  Avg
34 Friedrichsen, Adam. 26-0   426 16.4  56-130  .431   3-18   .167  40-55   .727   28  51   79  3.0  47  0  17  39   6   8  155  6.0
44 Arndorfer, Adam.... 26-0   448 17.2  67-106  .632   0-0    .000  18-30   .600   37  71  108  4.2  23  0  21  37  14  17  152  5.8

[SLP-O-8]

Bv has done the 2 groups rotation all year long and those have been their 2 bigs.  The only player that normally isn't in the rotation very much is Raney but he is a very good defender so was brought in with the second group instead of Bissen and played rather good defense on Daughtery.  BV dominated down low last night and wagner wasn't needed to take over.  He didnt force anything and did what the team needed of him.  I dont think you can say because White went off like that against Coe he deserves it.  Im not by any means saying that he doesn't because he is one hell of a good player and impressed me big time.   Cant wait for the big game tomorrow and hopefully the loser gets a bid into the NCAA's anyways but you never can tell what will happen with Pool C for sure

[Klopenhiemer]

Bv has done the 2 groups rotation all year long and those have been their 2 bigs.  The only player that normally isn't in the rotation very much is Raney but he is a very good defender so was brought in with the second group instead of Bissen and played rather good defense on Daughtery.  BV dominated down low last night and wagner wasn't needed to take over.  He didnt force anything and did what the team needed of him.  I dont think you can say because White went off like that against Coe he deserves it.  Im not by any means saying that he doesn't because he is one hell of a good player and impressed me big time.   Cant wait for the big game tomorrow and hopefully the loser gets a bid into the NCAA's anyways but you never can tell what will happen with Pool C for sure

Great point SLP.  Wheather it does or not the MOP should be based off of many differnt things.  You can score 8 points and still be the most outstanding player on the court that night.  There are a lot of things like defense, taking care of the ball, and getting the right players the ball on any given night.  This game was won down low.  If we they would have had to get into an outside shooting contest, the game might have been different. 

White is a heck of a player.  I have not seen him play in person this season, but have followed as well as one can via the internet.  Doug Flute won the most coveted award in college football off of one play, lets hope for the sake of all that the determining factor in the MOP is not last nights performace, althought it should count towards the overall picture. 

Good luck to the Beavers tomorrow night.  It will be fun to see how this one turns out. 

[doolittledog]

I think MOP should go to the BV guy doing the cartwheels during timeouts!!!

[birds of prey]

I think MOP should go to the BV guy doing the cartwheels during timeouts!!!

That's what I'm looking forward to most tomorrow night!!!

That, and Duhawk 'W'...Fooo Shoooo!

[Rock Chalk DuHawk]

Lets hope Loras doesnt have a mental meltdown on their way to BV today and comes more than prepared for the big game tomorrow night.  

It is going to be a doozy of one........defense wins Championships so we will see tomorrow night who is going back to the NCAA Tournament.

I am calling out Kolze to finally step up against the Beavers this time!!!!  

White, Centella, and Slater will be dominant as always

[SLP-O-8]

I think MOP should go to the BV guy doing the cartwheels during timeouts!!!

haha Phil is the man and does a mean cartwheel

[du-sz]

I would venture to say that Loras did "dominate" underneath last night. Sure Loras got the job done from outside, but that doesn't mean they didn't inside.  I watched Slater, White and Brandt shut down the Coe bigs all through the first half.  I haven't really sifted through the stats, but i am sure anyone there could probably attest to the trouble Knuestling was having on both ends of the court virtually all night.

BTW that guy that does the cartwheels for BV is the worst male cheerleader ever!!! He has the girls do all the lifting..whats with that?? Weak.

[Klopenhiemer]

I would venture to say that Loras did "dominate" underneath last night. Sure Loras got the job done from outside, but that doesn't mean they didn't inside.  I watched Slater, White and Brandt shut down the Coe bigs all through the first half.  I haven't really sifted through the stats, but i am sure anyone there could probably attest to the trouble Knuestling was having on both ends of the court virtually all night.

BTW that guy that does the cartwheels for BV is the worst male cheerleader ever!!! He has the girls do all the lifting..whats with that?? Weak.

Okay Im with a Loras fan on this believe it or not.  The dude doing the cartwheels is a joke.

[SLP-O-8]

I would venture to say that Loras did "dominate" underneath last night. Sure Loras got the job done from outside, but that doesn't mean they didn't inside.  I watched Slater, White and Brandt shut down the Coe bigs all through the first half.  I haven't really sifted through the stats, but i am sure anyone there could probably attest to the trouble Knuestling was having on both ends of the court virtually all night.

BTW that guy that does the cartwheels for BV is the worst male cheerleader ever!!! He has the girls do all the lifting..whats with that?? Weak.

Okay Im with a Loras fan on this believe it or not.  The dude doing the cartwheels is a joke.

I believe thats kind of the point of it

[Full Court Sorcerer]

I would venture to say that Loras did "dominate" underneath last night. Sure Loras got the job done from outside, but that doesn't mean they didn't inside.  I watched Slater, White and Brandt shut down the Coe bigs all through the first half.  I haven't really sifted through the stats, but i am sure anyone there could probably attest to the trouble Knuestling was having on both ends of the court virtually all night.

BTW that guy that does the cartwheels for BV is the worst male cheerleader ever!!! He has the girls do all the lifting..whats with that?? Weak.

What offense of threat does Coe have for Loras to dominate against?  Kuenstling is the only player that you could truly consider a true post on the team.  Slater did do an amazing job defensively against Kuenstling, but other than that Coe has no other offensive post presence.  Offensively you can say the same about Loras, their bigs had just as much trouble doing anything down low except for one dunk by White which was more fast break if anything.

[Dr. Phil]

I endured a disappointing evening watching my alma mater Kohawks be humiliated by the Duhawks.  This game was a non-event.  Loras was excellent defensively and the Kohawks were unprepared to compete.  In fact, with 8:30 left in the game, I started the 175 mile return trip in a snowstorm.  Loras was up by 19 points and Coe had no chance to close the gap.  Loras' seniors are finally playing like their basketball clock is ticking down to the end...which it is.  It's going to be some lean years ahead for my beloved Kohawks.  This time, the Duhawks will be ready for the Beavers....good luck Loras!

Being at the game, how could have Coe been better prepared? Do you mean offensively or defensively?

Did you see any strategy at work on the floor or was Coe just battling to get the game in hand?  I understand Coe scored first, then lost the game during the next 5 minutes or so after that?  Is that what you saw?