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sumander

Quote from: AO on February 26, 2009, 03:45:21 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bethel get a pool C even with a loss on Saturday if enough teams manage not to get upset leaving pool c a little more open.


Quote from: pabegg on February 25, 2009, 11:52:01 PM
Last things first. Wednesday's results provided no upsets that will impact the Pool C standings.

Tonight is my first attempt to look at who I think is in tournament position based on the regional rankings rather than the numbers. It is highly unlikely that the "unseen" final regional rankings will be much different from this week's rankings.

Based on the regional rankings released earlier today, I'd tend to think that the following 31 are in with Pool C's if they need them (obviously if we have a huge run of upsets, not all of these would get in). Some of the bottom teams in each region might be in trouble with an upset loss (e.g. Bridgewater State will be in if they lose to Salem State in the MASCAC final but might be out if they lose to Westfield State in the semi).

Atlantic Region
1. Richard Stockton 23-2 20-2
2. Farmingdale State 23-2 23-2

East Region
1. Ithaca 24-1 22-1
2. St. Lawrence 19-5 17-5
3. Hamilton 18-6 16-2

Great Lakes Region
1. John Carroll 20-4 18-3
2. Capital 22-3 20-3

Middle Atlantic Region
1. St. Mary's (Md.) 21-4 18-2
2. Franklin & Marshall 21-4 20-4
3. DeSales 20-5 19-5
4. Widener 20-5 18-5

Midwest Region
1. Wheaton (Ill.) 22-3 18-3
3. Elmhurst 19-6 19-6
4. Transylvania 19-5 16-3

Northeast Region
1. Worcester Tech 20-4 20-3
2. Middlebury 22-3 20-2
4. Rhode Island College 21-4 21-4
5. Mass-Dartmouth 22-3 20-3
6. Salem State 20-5 19-5
7. Bridgewater State 18-6 17-4

South Region
1. Trinity (Texas) 22-3 19-3
2. Texas-Dallas 21-4 19-4
3. Guilford 21-4 20-4
4. Randolph-Macon 20-5 18-2
5. Centre 20-4 16-4

West Region
1. St. Thomas 25-0 24-0
2. Puget Sound 23-2 20-0
3. UW-Stevens Point 21-4 20-4
4. UW-Whitewater 21-4 20-4
5. UW-Platteville 21-4 16-4
6. Buena Vista 23-2 20-2

Of these 31, there are 22 conferences represented, so there could be as few as 9 Pool C bids out of this group.

Of the remaining teams, Brandeis and Carnegie Mellon have the advantage of no conference tournament; I think they'd join the previous group if they go 1-0 this weekend.

Any of the other regionally ranked teams except Utica, Rochester, Cabrini, Roanoke, and Ohio Wesleyan are conceivable Pool C's. I think that St. Joseph's LI might have a chance if they lose the conference final to Farmingdale (they'd move back into the regional rankings.)

Montclair may have lost their chance with the loss to Rutgers-Newark. William Paterson would be a longshot now that they're done.


AO The only way Bethel makes the tourney is by winning Saturday night!
I fly any cargo that you can pay to run
The bush league pilots, they just can't get the job done
You've got to fly down the canyon, don't never see the sun
There's no such thing as an easy run

piperinsider

Quote from: onearmedscot on February 26, 2009, 03:14:35 PM
Any word on the gustie fan in cuffs who was allegedly maced to be subdued and who was screaming obscenities at the St. Paul cops when I happened to walk by?  Classic.

oAs.
I heard he rode out on Pepe. I miss that little guy.

The Tommies are awesome, but if UST wins the NCAAs, I'll wear that sheep costume that oAs once dawned. Go Bethel (two teams in the tourney would be nice)!

SUMMIT!!!!!

InRepair-- your handle wouldnt be an attempt to descirbe your post play, would it?    ::)
After the game, the king and pawn go into the same box.

Italian proverb

AO

Quote from: sumander on February 26, 2009, 04:39:29 PM


AO The only way Bethel makes the tourney is by winning Saturday night!
not so fast, the committee ranks more teams on selection day than those that you see there, so bethel could very well be #9, furthermore, the West is very good this year, bumping Bethel up into consideration quicker.  The OWP for Bethel is relatively good 164th,  for instance I took the #1 from the south Trinity Tx and looked up their OWP, and they were at 196th.  I'd also think the committee would take into account that 3 of bethel's losses came to the #1 ranked team in the nation.......they've got a shot.

Willy Wonka

Easy, Moses. I understand Paulson was questionable to even suit up last night with the flu. It explains the limited minutes/aggression.
I don't hate Duke. I just hate all their players, coaches and fans.

Drake Palmer

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Quote from: miacmaniac on February 26, 2009, 04:44:10 PM
InRepair-- your handle wouldnt be an attempt to descirbe your post play, would it?    ::)


Aaah yes, the good old days of Posting Up are back, of smack talking & trash talking, if just for an hour or two! 

As Cmob would say if he were here: I feel like I'm in a McDonalds' commercial - cuz -"I'm loving it!!"*  ;D ;D

*Posts from the Orifice not included in this category.   ;)

Got so excited I forgot how to type!
"If anything here offends, I beg your pardon. I come in peace, I depart in gratitude." ;)

Chocolate Hoops

Anyone see the Tommie-Gustie game last night?

Yorkovich is probably the WORST official around. He's an arrogant, pompus little dick that makes every attempt to take over the game so he'll be noticed. He's absolutely terrible.

I'm not a GAC or UST fan, just went to watch. And also, his officiating had no affect on the game, it's just his arrogance that made me want to ring this guy's neck as he was calling every little ticky-tack foul and then calls a T on the Gustie bench "because one of the ass'ts was kneeling down and looking at him????"

I thought Combe did a fine job. Don't know the other guy.


Willy Wonka

Quote from: Chocolate Hoops on February 26, 2009, 05:06:22 PM
Anyone see the Tommie-Gustie game last night?

Yorkovich is probably the WORST official around. He's an arrogant, pompus little dick that makes every attempt to take over the game so he'll be noticed. He's absolutely terrible.

I'm not a GAC or UST fan, just went to watch. And also, his officiating had no affect on the game, it's just his arrogance that made me want to ring this guy's neck as he was calling every little ticky-tack foul and then calls a T on the Gustie bench "because one of the ass'ts was kneeling down and looking at him????"

I thought Combe did a fine job. Don't know the other guy.

For what it's worth, I heard the same report from a couple former Gusties. Coombe was average (which is great for him), but the little blond guy filled his role nicely.
I don't hate Duke. I just hate all their players, coaches and fans.

AO

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I assumed it was coombe as Wonka was talking smack about him last night, check out this picture to verify the awful ref was yorkovich http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=2885&photo=0062 or here http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=2885&photo=0102

papahoops

It seems like the snow storm has everyone hunkered down on the computer this afternoon. Nice cheap shot on the post play Mose. I don't think the flu was the problem for GAC post production last night Willie, unless that flu bug hits every time the Gusties play in St. Paul ??? ???

SUMMIT!!!!!

Quote from: Willy Wonka on February 26, 2009, 04:51:43 PM
Easy, Moses. I understand Paulson was questionable to even suit up last night with the flu. It explains the limited minutes/aggression.
My question wasn't a refernce to last night's play but rather to a team-leading 57 TOs, as well the the unwritten "code" that current players should not post. 
After the game, the king and pawn go into the same box.

Italian proverb

Drake Palmer

Quote from: miacmaniac on February 26, 2009, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Willy Wonka on February 26, 2009, 04:51:43 PM
Easy, Moses. I understand Paulson was questionable to even suit up last night with the flu. It explains the limited minutes/aggression.
My question wasn't a refernce to last night's play but rather to a team-leading 57 TOs, as well the the unwritten "code" that current players should not post. 

Pops - now he's sizzling. :o :o ;D
"If anything here offends, I beg your pardon. I come in peace, I depart in gratitude." ;)

sumander

AO, OWP is only one of the criteria evaluated. From the NCAA manual:

Selection Criteria.
Primary Criteria
The primary criteria emphasize regional competition (all contests leading up to NCAA
championships); all criteria listed will be evaluated (not listed in priority order).
• Win-loss percentage against regional opponents.
• Strength-of-schedule (only contests versus regional competition).
- Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OWP).
- Opponents' Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OOWP).
[See Appendix B for explanation of OWP and OOWP calculations.]
• In-region head-to-head competition.
• In-region results versus common regional opponents.
• In-region results versus regionally ranked teams.
Note:
• Ranked opponents are defined as those teams ranked at the time of the rankings/
selection process only.
• Conference postseason contests are included.
• Contests versus provisional and reclassifying members in their third and fourth
years shall count in the primary criteria. Provisional and reclassifying members
shall remain ineligible for rankings and selections.
Secondary Criteria
If the evaluation of the primary criteria does not result in a decision, the
secondary criteria will be reviewed. All the criteria listed will be evaluated (not
listed in priority order). The secondary criteria introduce results against out-of-region
Division III and all other opponents including those contests versus opponents from
other classifications (i.e., provisionals, NAIA, NCAA Divisions I and II).
• Out-of-region head-to-head competition.
• Overall Division III win-loss percentage.
• Results versus common non Division III opponents.
• Results versus all Division III ranked teams.
• Overall win-loss percentage.
• Results versus all common opponents.
• Overall DIII Strength of Schedule.
I fly any cargo that you can pay to run
The bush league pilots, they just can't get the job done
You've got to fly down the canyon, don't never see the sun
There's no such thing as an easy run

InRepair

Quote from: TommieFan2012 on February 26, 2009, 04:36:29 PM
Quote from: InRepair on February 26, 2009, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: TommieFan2012 on February 26, 2009, 04:00:35 PM
How about that sign saying "We want Mike Berken"? Coming into the opposing house and looking for one of the UST fans probably isn't the best idea.

Pretty sure you are Mike Berken....and if you are, you know why...

What makes you think I'm Mike Berken.  I'm not, but I do know him, and I witnessed him walk up to the kid with the sign, and the gustie wouldn't beleive that he actually was Mike Berken.  It made us all laugh.

I'm sorry, but Berken is such a tool I had to post that, otherwise I don't and won't. You can keep trash talking me now.   :-*