MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[VOJ]

waddya think?  will ten wins get you a playoff spot in this very even league?   will the real sju, car, aug and con teams please stand up?   it's hard to figure johnnies dropping four of five, and aug losing by 20 at home to vipes.  carleton's resurgence is a bit surprising, coming on the heels of a bad loss at home to bu. 

Superfan, I realize everyone has to play everyone else but playing 4 of 5 on the road and going to Hamline, UST, home vs Gac, @ Bethel and @ Carleton.  So...dropping 4 fo 5 is not a great thing...but it happened.  Now they need to gear up for the final 8 conference games and build momentum

[huhoops]

waddya think?  will ten wins get you a playoff spot in this very even league?   will the real sju, car, aug and con teams please stand up?   it's hard to figure johnnies dropping four of five, and aug losing by 20 at home to vipes.  carleton's resurgence is a bit surprising, coming on the heels of a bad loss at home to bu. 

Superfan, I realize everyone has to play everyone else but playing 4 of 5 on the road and going to Hamline, UST, home vs Gac, @ Bethel and @ Carleton.  So...dropping 4 fo 5 is not a great thing...but it happened.  Now they need to gear up for the final 8 conference games and build momentum

Tentative prediction for win totals with possible losses to come:

UST 18-2 (either @ HU or against GAC)
GAC 17-3 (either @ HU or @ UST)
HU 13-7 (UST, GAC, or @ CAR)
AUG 13-7 (UST, GAC, SJU, or @ CAR)
SJU 12-8 (HU, UST, GAC, AUG)
CAR 11-9 (or 10-10 ) (HU, AUG, @ UST)

(Depending on how much teams are beating one another up, there's an outside chance that BU or STO would sneak in with 10 wins)

The schedule favors AUG and CAR as they play the top part of the conference early in the schedule. UST, GAC, HU, and SJU are all beating each other up again right before playoffs.

[Gacman]

waddya think?  will ten wins get you a playoff spot in this very even league?   will the real sju, car, aug and con teams please stand up?   it's hard to figure johnnies dropping four of five, and aug losing by 20 at home to vipes.  carleton's resurgence is a bit surprising, coming on the heels of a bad loss at home to bu. 

Superfan, I realize everyone has to play everyone else but playing 4 of 5 on the road and going to Hamline, UST, home vs Gac, @ Bethel and @ Carleton.  So...dropping 4 fo 5 is not a great thing...but it happened.  Now they need to gear up for the final 8 conference games and build momentum

Tentative prediction for win totals with possible losses to come:

UST 18-2 (either @ HU or against GAC)
GAC 17-3 (either @ HU or @ UST)
HU 13-7 (UST, GAC, or @ CAR)
AUG 13-7 (UST, GAC, SJU, or @ CAR)
SJU 12-8 (HU, UST, GAC, AUG)
CAR 11-9 (or 10-10 ) (HU, AUG, @ UST)

(Depending on how much teams are beating one another up, there's an outside chance that BU or STO would sneak in with 10 wins)

The schedule favors AUG and CAR as they play the top part of the conference early in the schedule. UST, GAC, HU, and SJU are all beating each other up again right before playoffs.

I like the post. In regards to ST. OLAF and CAR, the schedule doesn't look too favorable for Olaf. They play Aug, Ham, SMU, CON, SJU, and BU who is playing better all on the road. They get Carleton at home but that really isn't an advantage with them both being in the same city. They also get MAC at home but it shouldn't really matter where you play them. The only home game that will truly be an advantage is the one against GAC and they haven't faired the best against them recently.

Now look at Carleton's schedule and it is much more favorable. They play HAM, CON, AUG, and SMU all at home. They basically have one neutral site game wit STO and they play MAC, BU, and UST on the road.

I could see both teams finishing with as little as 8 wins  but no more than 11 as you said. Really whichever team wins the head to head matchup this time around will be finishing ahead of the other one.

[AO]

waddya think?  will ten wins get you a playoff spot in this very even league?   will the real sju, car, aug and con teams please stand up?   it's hard to figure johnnies dropping four of five, and aug losing by 20 at home to vipes.  carleton's resurgence is a bit surprising, coming on the heels of a bad loss at home to bu. 

Superfan, I realize everyone has to play everyone else but playing 4 of 5 on the road and going to Hamline, UST, home vs Gac, @ Bethel and @ Carleton.  So...dropping 4 fo 5 is not a great thing...but it happened.  Now they need to gear up for the final 8 conference games and build momentum

Tentative prediction for win totals with possible losses to come:

UST 18-2 (either @ HU or against GAC)
GAC 17-3 (either @ HU or @ UST)
HU 13-7 (UST, GAC, or @ CAR)
AUG 13-7 (UST, GAC, SJU, or @ CAR)
SJU 12-8 (HU, UST, GAC, AUG)
CAR 11-9 (or 10-10 ) (HU, AUG, @ UST)

(Depending on how much teams are beating one another up, there's an outside chance that BU or STO would sneak in with 10 wins)

The schedule favors AUG and CAR as they play the top part of the conference early in the schedule. UST, GAC, HU, and SJU are all beating each other up again right before playoffs.

I think the 6 spot comes down to the final night with Carleton at Bethel.  The winner gets in with 9 wins.  We're seeing some false parity in the standings right now.  The cobber train has derailed and 3 of the 4 st. mary's wins come against Macalester or the cobbers.  The Oles have the toughest next 5 games but might be able to sneak in as they finish with mac, smu and the cobbs.

[Drake Palmer]

Thanks for the updates Pops!

Seth Jonker for the Carlies goes off - 10-11FGA, 1-2 3FGA, 4-6 FTs, 25 points. Cold-blooded. Best post player footwork in the league, or close.    

hmmm interesting you hold Jonker in such high esteem...I think he is ok, productive, and he took advantage of the situation against SMU, they allow the most points and teams don't struggle to get good looks at the hoop.  His other 20 point game was against UMAC power Bethany Lutheran. ...

So umm VOJ, what do you think of King Jonkey Kong now?   Against your Johnnies he scored 17 points, 5-9 from the floor, 7-11 FTA, 9 rebs, 4 assists & 1 block.  Other than the mediocre FT%, reminds me of a poor man's Burtzel.

Jonker's been putting up solid numbers all season, so for me, his performance on Saturday against the SJU comes as no surprise.

However, the head scratching performance of the weekend had to go to UST's Anders Halvorsen. He knocked down 19 points in only 14 minutes of play.  He was 8-11 from the field, 2-3 3FGA, 4 rebs, & 1 block.  Nice stats for Halvorsen, but it would be nice to see him put up those types of numbers in a money/clutch game rather than in a blowout. However, a small form of redemption for Haldo, & somewhere today or over the weekend I'm sure Papahoops was smiling.  

[VOJ]

Thanks for the updates Pops!

Seth Jonker for the Carlies goes off - 10-11FGA, 1-2 3FGA, 4-6 FTs, 25 points. Cold-blooded. Best post player footwork in the league, or close.    

hmmm interesting you hold Jonker in such high esteem...I think he is ok, productive, and he took advantage of the situation against SMU, they allow the most points and teams don't struggle to get good looks at the hoop.  His other 20 point game was against UMAC power Bethany Lutheran. ...

So umm VOJ, what do you think of King Jonkey Kong now?   Against your Johnnies he scored 17 points, 5-9 from the floor, 7-11 FTA, 9 rebs, 4 assists & 1 block.  Other than the mediocre FT%, reminds me of a poor man's Burtzel.

Jonker's been putting up solid numbers all season, so for me, his performance on Saturday against the SJU comes as no surprise.

However, the head scratching performance of the weekend had to go to UST's Anders Halvorsen. He knocked down 19 points in only 14 minutes of play.  He was 8-11 from the field, 2-3 3FGA, 4 rebs, & 1 block.  Nice stats for Halvorsen, but it would be nice to see him put up those types of numbers in a money/clutch game rather than in a blowout. However, a small form of redemption for Haldo, & somewhere today or over the weekend I'm sure Papahoops was smiling.  

He played well, was really solid...he does not "expolde" for his stats, he grinds and gets it done, takes advantage of attention paid to Rossett and Sutherland, gets his shots within the flow of the offense.  To be honest Drake he was just one of a number of challenges the Johnnies faced on Saturday and did not do well against.

Is he All-MIAC...not first team, maybe 2nd IMHO.

[Gregory Sager]

Gophers are headed for the NIT...they better take Northwestern seriously...Viking fan, well let's just say you have now been baptized into the life of backing Brett Favre...I hope I don't hear too much of "he lost the game for us", you signed him, its not like you didn't know what he was all about, and all of you drooled the drool of regret into the pillow of remorse last night and for the rest of the off season.

A chaser of perspective needs to be served with your vial of bile regarding Favre, Vee Oh Jay: Would the Vikings even have been playing in the NFC championship game this year if their starting quarterback all season had been Sage Rosenfels or Tavaris Jackson?

Oh and Sensei' Sager...chalk that one up to a little Lombardi Trophy magic

[VOJ]

Gophers are headed for the NIT...they better take Northwestern seriously...Viking fan, well let's just say you have now been baptized into the life of backing Brett Favre...I hope I don't hear too much of "he lost the game for us", you signed him, its not like you didn't know what he was all about, and all of you drooled the drool of regret into the pillow of remorse last night and for the rest of the off season.

A chaser of perspective needs to be served with your vial of bile regarding Favre, Vee Oh Jay: Would the Vikings even have been playing in the NFC championship game this year if their starting quarterback all season had been Sage Rosenfels or Tavaris Jackson?

Oh and Sensei' Sager...chalk that one up to a little Lombardi Trophy magic

I am not sure they would have made the playoffs without Favre...that was not what I said.  You can have all the perspective you want Greg in the end it won't 1)feed the bulldog, 2)produce a Super Bowl Championship. 

What I am saying is he has a history of making the critical error in a big game.  See playoffs vs Philly, NY Giants and now New Orleans add to that an interception against Dallas in an NFC Championship game in Dallas when teams were swapping TD's, and his second to last pass for the Jets a pick which ended any chance of a comeback win or trip to the playoffs last year. 

The Vikings in my opinion had the best team left in the playoffs, but did not execute that way. 

As for the 85 Bears...even Lombardi Magic can only do so much against an almost perfect team

[Drake Palmer]

Thanks for the updates Pops!

Seth Jonker for the Carlies goes off - 10-11FGA, 1-2 3FGA, 4-6 FTs, 25 points. Cold-blooded. Best post player footwork in the league, or close.    

hmmm interesting you hold Jonker in such high esteem...I think he is ok, productive, and he took advantage of the situation against SMU, they allow the most points and teams don't struggle to get good looks at the hoop.  His other 20 point game was against UMAC power Bethany Lutheran. ...

So umm VOJ, what do you think of King Jonkey Kong now?   Against your Johnnies he scored 17 points, 5-9 from the floor, 7-11 FTA, 9 rebs, 4 assists & 1 block.  Other than the mediocre FT%, reminds me of a poor man's Burtzel.

Jonker's been putting up solid numbers all season, so for me, his performance on Saturday against the SJU comes as no surprise.

However, the head scratching performance of the weekend had to go to UST's Anders Halvorsen. He knocked down 19 points in only 14 minutes of play.  He was 8-11 from the field, 2-3 3FGA, 4 rebs, & 1 block.  Nice stats for Halvorsen, but it would be nice to see him put up those types of numbers in a money/clutch game rather than in a blowout. However, a small form of redemption for Haldo, & somewhere today or over the weekend I'm sure Papahoops was smiling.  

He played well, was really solid...he does not "expolde" for his stats, he grinds and gets it done, takes advantage of attention paid to Rossett and Sutherland, gets his shots within the flow of the offense.  To be honest Drake he was just one of a number of challenges the Johnnies faced on Saturday and did not do well against.

Is he All-MIAC...not first team, maybe 2nd IMHO.

Interesting.  I guess we should  call Jonker an opportunist.    Apparently because of all the attention being paid to Rosett & Sutherland, Jonker is currently 9th in the league in scoring while leading the Knights at 13.9 ppg.  Meanwhile, Sutherland is averaging 12.5 ppg & Rosett 12.1 ppg.  

Jonker is also 3rd in the league in FG percentage as he averages 54.6% from the field.  Burtzel is first as he's shooting a blistering 70.2% FGA, & Ryan McPartland from GAC is averaging 59.4%.  Jonker is also averaging a respectable 4.8 rpg which is good for 16th among the league leaders.

All I'm saying is give a little respect for the big man.  In fact I might appoint myself President of the Seth Jonker fan club.   If he continues his strong play, in the MIAC award happy world of "No Player Left Behind," I would think he'll end up making one of the 15 all conference spots.  I just wished the coaches & league had the guts to name 3 teams rather than one big happy family of 15 All-MIAC players.  

He played well, was really solid...he does not "expolde" for his stats, he grinds and gets it done, takes advantage of attention paid to Rossett and Sutherland, gets his shots within the flow of the offense. To be honest Drake he was just one of a number of challenges the Johnnies faced on Saturday and did not do well against.
Is he All-MIAC...not first team, maybe 2nd IMHO.

Sounds like it was a long day for the Johnnies on Saturday.  It's tough to win when the opposing team has 5 players score in double figures.

[Gacman]

Thanks for the updates Pops!

Seth Jonker for the Carlies goes off - 10-11FGA, 1-2 3FGA, 4-6 FTs, 25 points. Cold-blooded. Best post player footwork in the league, or close.   

hmmm interesting you hold Jonker in such high esteem...I think he is ok, productive, and he took advantage of the situation against SMU, they allow the most points and teams don't struggle to get good looks at the hoop.  His other 20 point game was against UMAC power Bethany Lutheran. ...

So umm VOJ, what do you think of King Jonkey Kong now?    Against your Johnnies he scored 17 points, 5-9 from the floor, 7-11 FTA, 9 rebs, 4 assists & 1 block.  Other than the mediocre FT%, reminds me of a poor man's Burtzel.

Jonker's been putting up solid numbers all season, so for me, his performance on Saturday against the SJU comes as no surprise.

However, the head scratching performance of the weekend had to go to UST's Anders Halvorsen. He knocked down 19 points in only 14 minutes of play.  He was 8-11 from the field, 2-3 3FGA, 4 rebs, & 1 block.  Nice stats for Halvorsen, but it would be nice to see him put up those types of numbers in a money/clutch game rather than in a blowout. However, a small form of redemption for Haldo, & somewhere today or over the weekend I'm sure Papahoops was smiling. 

He played well, was really solid...he does not "expolde" for his stats, he grinds and gets it done, takes advantage of attention paid to Rossett and Sutherland, gets his shots within the flow of the offense.  To be honest Drake he was just one of a number of challenges the Johnnies faced on Saturday and did not do well against.

Is he All-MIAC...not first team, maybe 2nd IMHO.

Interesting.  I guess we should  call Jonker an opportunist.    Apparently because of all the attention being paid to Rosett & Sutherland, Jonker is currently 9th in the league in scoring while leading the Knights at 13.9 ppg.  Meanwhile, Sutherland is averaging 12.5 ppg & Rosett 12.1 ppg. 

Jonker is also 3rd in the league in FG percentage as he averages 54.6% from the field.  Burtzel is first as he’s shooting a blistering 70.2% FGA, & Ryan McPartland from GAC is averaging 59.4%.  Jonker is also averaging a respectable 4.8 rpg which is good for 16th among the league leaders.

All I’m saying is give a little respect for the big man.  In fact I might appoint myself President of the Seth Jonker fan club.  If he continues his strong play, in the MIAC award happy world of "No Player Left Behind," I would think he'll end up making one of the 15 all conferecne spots.  I just wished the coaches & league had the guts to name 3 teams rather than one big happy family of 15 All-MIAC players. 

He played well, was really solid...he does not "expolde" for his stats, he grinds and gets it done, takes advantage of attention paid to Rossett and Sutherland, gets his shots within the flow of the offense. To be honest Drake he was just one of a number of challenges the Johnnies faced on Saturday and did not do well against.
Is he All-MIAC...not first team, maybe 2nd IMHO.

Sounds like it was a long day for the Johnnies on Saturday.  It’s tough to win when the opposing team has 5 players score in double figures.

DP I think WW has alluded to this before, and I'm paraphrasing here, by making the comment that Ryan McPartland doesn't look like he should be that effective or that he makes it look difficult or his style is unorthodox but obviously he is very effective and has been one of the gusties top and best players for the last couple of years. It sounds to me the Jonker is moving into this category. He doesn't look like a threat or someone you have to worry about but he definitely is legit and his numbers speak for themselves.

I could be wrong but it seems that Sensei likes to pick on VOJ. Maybe it's VOJ's confrontational nature. 

[Gregory Sager]

All I'm saying is give a little respect for the big man.  In fact I might appoint myself President of the Seth Jonker fan club.  If he continues his strong play, in the MIAC award happy world of "No Player Left Behind," I would think he'll end up making one of the 15 all conferecne spots.  I just wished the coaches & league had the guts to name 3 teams rather than one big happy family of 15 All-MIAC players. 

"No Player Left Behind" ... that's good stuff, DP. I join you in decrying the move to an undifferentiated All-MIAC team. What's next ... everybody who suits up for a MIAC game gets a blue ribbon from the league office for participating?

I could be wrong but it seems that Sensei likes to pick on VOJ. Maybe it's VOJ's confrontational nature. 

Nah, it's because VOJ is my homeboy. Picking on him is like giving my little brother a noogie.

[Drake Palmer]

I could be wrong but it seems that Sensei likes to pick on VOJ. Maybe it's VOJ's confrontational nature. 

G-Man - as you, I & others on the board know, you've got to pick your battles carefully with the Sensei.

Somehow, I've got a picture in my head of VOJ sobbing himself to sleep on his pillow, year after year when Santa, aka Bret Favre put a lump of charcoal in his Green Bay Christmas stocking.

After last night's Vikes- Saints game, I immedialely turned to the Australian Open (tennis) & only read the regular sports section this morning.   
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A final couple of comments & question before heading back to the salt mine.  I was at the Bethel–SMU game the other day & Nate Robertson had a field day against the Red Birds as he scored 27 points on 10-14 shooting, & 7-13 from the charity stripe. This doesn't bode well for the Birds when Gustavus comes to town on Wednesday with McPartland, Paulson & Blacklock.

My question:   At the beginning of the2nd half, SMU's coach Landrum had Will Wright & Lukas Holland sit on the bench for the first 10 minutes.  Were they in his doghouse for some reason or is this how he rests them? Chris Palmer & the replacements accounted for themselves quite nicely & were able to keep the game within striking distance until Holland & Wright re-entered the game with 9:56 or so left on the clock.

Highlight of the day.  Early in the 2nd half, SMU's Palmer stole a pass at the top of the key, broke away, thought he was all alone & decided "hmm, nobody with me?, I'm gonna yam it," & loaded up for the vicious one handed tomahawk.  When suddenly out of nowhere, Bethel's skinny 5-10 Daniel Baah came streaking down the court & said "not on my court bruh," jumped with him & blocked his dunk.  I almost choked on my popcorn.   

[Willy Wonka]

Gophers are headed for the NIT...they better take Northwestern seriously...Viking fan, well let's just say you have now been baptized into the life of backing Brett Favre...I hope I don't hear too much of "he lost the game for us", you signed him, its not like you didn't know what he was all about, and all of you drooled the drool of regret into the pillow of remorse last night and for the rest of the off season.

A chaser of perspective needs to be served with your vial of bile regarding Favre, Vee Oh Jay: Would the Vikings even have been playing in the NFC championship game this year if their starting quarterback all season had been Sage Rosenfels or Tavaris Jackson?

Oh and Sensei' Sager...chalk that one up to a little Lombardi Trophy magic

Who says it has anything to do with performance? I, for one, would rather go 0-16 than cheer for a Favre-led Vikings team. I was unabashedly cheering for the Saints yesterday so as not to earn a tainted trip to Miami. Ask around if you don't believe me.

For what it's worth, the Vikes finished 10-6 last year before upgrading at RT, adding the Off ROY and signing the egomaniac (and losing Birk). Even without Favre, they have one of the best and deepest rosters in the NFL.

[Drake Palmer]

All I’m saying is give a little respect for the big man.  In fact I might appoint myself President of the Seth Jonker fan club.  If he continues his strong play, in the MIAC award happy world of "No Player Left Behind," I would think he'll end up making one of the 15 all conferecne spots.  I just wished the coaches & league had the guts to name 3 teams rather than one big happy family of 15 All-MIAC players. 

"No Player Left Behind" ... that's good stuff, DP. I join you in decrying the move to an undifferentiated All-MIAC team. What's next ... everybody who suits up for a MIAC game gets a blue ribbon from the league office for participating?

I could be wrong but it seems that Sensei likes to pick on VOJ. Maybe it's VOJ's confrontational nature. 

Nah, it's because VOJ is my homeboy. Picking on him is like giving my little brother a noogie.

It seems inevitable that whenever I get quoted there's a typo.  Yes, I know how to spell "c-o-n-f-e-r-e-n-c-e."   

At least College Sporting News, the other publication that covers the MIAC will name first & 2nd teams.  But they sort of hedge their bets too.  They name 6 players to each team.   

[Gregory Sager]

All I'm saying is give a little respect for the big man.  In fact I might appoint myself President of the Seth Jonker fan club.  If he continues his strong play, in the MIAC award happy world of "No Player Left Behind," I would think he'll end up making one of the 15 all conferecne spots.  I just wished the coaches & league had the guts to name 3 teams rather than one big happy family of 15 All-MIAC players. 

"No Player Left Behind" ... that's good stuff, DP. I join you in decrying the move to an undifferentiated All-MIAC team. What's next ... everybody who suits up for a MIAC game gets a blue ribbon from the league office for participating?

I could be wrong but it seems that Sensei likes to pick on VOJ. Maybe it's VOJ's confrontational nature. 

Nah, it's because VOJ is my homeboy. Picking on him is like giving my little brother a noogie.

It seems inevitable that whenever I get quoted there's a typo.  Yes, I know how to spell "c-o-n-f-e-r-e-n-c-e."   

At least College Sporting News, the other publication that covers the MIAC will name first & 2nd teams.  But they sort of hedge their bets too.  They name 6 players to each team.   

It's their silent tribute to old-time Iowa high-school girls basketball, DP.