MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[miacsuperfan]

Hey everyone. I'm new to the board and hope I don't catch too much grief. I realize I will have some coming my way. Hopefully you guys will also let me on the pick em's.

Unlike "Mr. Pannell", I will come right out and acknowledge that I am a Piper. I know new pipers have not been received well recently, but hope I can leave with some dignity in place.

I have enjoyed reading this board for awhile now and am finally ready to jump in.

hey 'The Superfan,' there might not be enough room in this town for two 'superfans.'   
dp, i am serioiusly considering doing picks this year, but am concerned about my inability to get to the board each game night to do them.  in the event that i do, warning:i suck at picks.      kudos, huhoops, for doing picks.   

[TheSuperfan]

Hey everyone. I'm new to the board and hope I don't catch too much grief. I realize I will have some coming my way. Hopefully you guys will also let me on the pick em's.

Unlike "Mr. Pannell", I will come right out and acknowledge that I am a Piper. I know new pipers have not been received well recently, but hope I can leave with some dignity in place.

I have enjoyed reading this board for awhile now and am finally ready to jump in.

Umm, it's not so much if you're a Piper, Tommie, Ole or Gustie etc.  If you're an active player, coaches typically frown upon or discourage their players from posting. If you do post, as some former players have done in the past – be cool about it & don't let your teammates or coaches know.  If you're a family member or friend, be tactful about touting the merits of your homeboy.  Some of us have been posting for so long we forgot why we started.  Otherwise, have fun & go for it.

I expected the first comment to be from Drake, thanks for the warning, but I am no HU ball player and will not tout my biases.

I have been reading the board long enough to know how far boasting about a certain player (relative/friend) goes and hope I am more impartial than that.

[TheSuperfan]

Hey everyone. I'm new to the board and hope I don't catch too much grief. I realize I will have some coming my way. Hopefully you guys will also let me on the pick em's.

Unlike "Mr. Pannell", I will come right out and acknowledge that I am a Piper. I know new pipers have not been received well recently, but hope I can leave with some dignity in place.

I have enjoyed reading this board for awhile now and am finally ready to jump in.

hey 'The Superfan,' there might not be enough room in this town for two 'superfans.'   
dp, i am serioiusly considering doing picks this year, but am concerned about my inability to get to the board each game night to do them.  in the event that i do, warning:i suck at picks.      kudos, huhoops, for doing picks.   

Have no fear, everyone knows who the original superfan is.

[fanofball]

Hey everyone. I'm new to the board and hope I don't catch too much grief. I realize I will have some coming my way. Hopefully you guys will also let me on the pick em's.

Unlike "Mr. Pannell", I will come right out and acknowledge that I am a Piper. I know new pipers have not been received well recently, but hope I can leave with some dignity in place.

I have enjoyed reading this board for awhile now and am finally ready to jump in.

The funny thing is, you have offered nothing but silent jabs at my posts.  First you are a piper, then not a piper player........so my motive was questioned. What is your true agenda? If none quit bringing me up, thanks
Umm, it's not so much if you're a Piper, Tommie, Ole or Gustie etc.  If you're an active player, coaches typically frown upon or discourage their players from posting. If you do post, as some former players have done in the past – be cool about it & don't let your teammates or coaches know.  If you're a family member or friend, be tactful about touting the merits of your homeboy.  Some of us have been posting for so long we forgot why we started.  Otherwise, have fun & go for it.

I expected the first comment to be from Drake, thanks for the warning, but I am no HU ball player and will not tout my biases.

I have been reading the board long enough to know how far boasting about a certain player (relative/friend) goes and hope I am more impartial than that.

[Gregory Sager]

Fan, it's hard to read a post when you type your reply in the middle of a quote. Type it at the end, after the last [/quote] code.

Also, if you're addressing a quote within a string of quotes, you may want to go back to that original quote so that you don't get tangled up the way that you just did. Or, you can simply delete all of the other quotes except for the one to which you're responding.

[fanofball]

Fan, it's hard to read a post when you type your reply in the middle of a quote. Type it at the end, after the last

code.

Also, if you're addressing a quote within a string of quotes, you may want to go back to that original quote so that you don't get tangled up the way that you just did. Or, you can simply delete all of the other quotes except for the one to which you're responding.
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Good advise, thanks

[TheSuperfan]

Hey everyone. I'm new to the board and hope I don't catch too much grief. I realize I will have some coming my way. Hopefully you guys will also let me on the pick em's.

Unlike "Mr. Pannell", I will come right out and acknowledge that I am a Piper. I know new pipers have not been received well recently, but hope I can leave with some dignity in place.

I have enjoyed reading this board for awhile now and am finally ready to jump in.

The funny thing is, you have offered nothing but silent jabs at my posts.  First you are a piper, then not a piper player........so my motive was questioned. What is your true agenda? If none quit bringing me up, thanks
Umm, it's not so much if you're a Piper, Tommie, Ole or Gustie etc.  If you're an active player, coaches typically frown upon or discourage their players from posting. If you do post, as some former players have done in the past – be cool about it & don't let your teammates or coaches know.  If you're a family member or friend, be tactful about touting the merits of your homeboy.  Some of us have been posting for so long we forgot why we started.  Otherwise, have fun & go for it.

I expected the first comment to be from Drake, thanks for the warning, but I am no HU ball player and will not tout my biases.

I have been reading the board long enough to know how far boasting about a certain player (relative/friend) goes and hope I am more impartial than that.

I hate to get involved in drama already. Being a piper does not automatically qualify me as a player so that is a moot point. My agenda is to have good discussion about MIAC basketball on the board.

Getting into that, I am very excited for some conference matchups to begin tomorrow. I will be attending the Carleton-Hamline game which should be exciting, hopefully  If Hipp can stay in the game, Mike plays aggressive, they limit their TO's and Pannell shoots like he did against Vista, it could be a interesting game. Also, I haven't heard much about the status of Jonker, Sutherland, or Davis? Are they all doing well?

I expect the Tommies to have a decisive win over Mac, but will be interested in who chips in for Mac.

I also expect the Mary's-Auggies game to also be very close. Palmer does not have the height of Grimm, but is much more athletic and stronger. Should be a great game.

As for Bethel-Gustavus, I expect Gustavus to have a strong start like last year, but Bethel could be a sneaky competitor this year.

Let the real games begin!

[ChairmanYao]

I'm starting to think I should have had a much harder time joining the board with all the tiptoeing go on. Maybe all of you were afraid I would bring communism to your country if you stirred up ill feelings. Let's possibly bring things back to the players and teams the board is about and everyone can live in blissful harmony.

[huhoops]

I have a hunch that superfan and fanofball might live in the same house  or maybe even the same body  Either way, the more the merrier. I was too hard on you FOB, I hope you stick around.

Onto tomorrow nights match ups...

HU @ CAR:

- The biggest deciding factor in the outcome of this game is whether or not Seth Jonker is healthy enough to play a significant role for the Knights. In 3 games, Jonker is averaging a pedestrian 6 ppg (32% shooting and 0-6 from 3) and just under 3 rbds in 18 minutes. He only played 3 minutes in their last contest in Hawaii vs. Chaminade and I can't help but think he won't be ready to go for the match up against HU. With depth being a constant issue at Carleton, especially on the interior, I see this being a huge advantage for Hipp and my boys.

- The match up between Sutherland and M. Campbell will be very telling in the outcome of the game. If Campbell keeps the match up competitive, it bodes well for HU. Although he has proved to be a viable scoring threat, the ability to guard a player like Sutherland is where Campbell's impact will be most felt this season. HU really didn't have an athlete last year that could match up with Sutherland, so if Campbell (and Hipp) stays out of foul trouble, the two major match ups (Sutherland and Jonker), should be taken care of.

- Carleton has a slight advantage on the wings IMO. Theisen and Biewen are bigger than Schmidt (if he plays), Taber, and Pannell. Their ability to stretch a defense and open up lanes for back doors and posts ups will be big for CAR. Aguirre matches up fine with either Biewen or Theisen and actually has an advantage because I don't think either of those Carleton players can stop him from getting to the hoop, although CAR usually has fantastic rotations and does a good job cutting off straight line penetration.

- I expect some double teams on Hipp. With the 25 pts and 7 Rbds he posted in just 19 minutes last year in the MIAC playoffs, I'm sure the Knights will be making sure the big man inside doesn't beat them.

Carleton has a slight edge in that their core group has some more experience and a more stable system than HU, but I think this one is pretty close to a coin flip.

AUG @ SMU...

Battle between 2 of the 4 remaining undefeated MIAC teams (who woulda thunk it  )

- I'm interested to see what the Auggies do to slow down the big three. Palmer isn't really an "optimal" match up for either Polta or A. Grimm, but he is much too aggressive for Quammen. Their stopper Sorenson will most likely take on the challenge of Wright, leaving the youthful Hines against Holland. The Dawgs need to keep Palmer off the glass or it will be a long night. Seifert has been solid off the bench, so his contributions could also throw a wrench in the AUG plan to steal one in Winona. Those four mentioned players account for a total of 58.5 ppg for the Cards.

- AUG has a big advantage with one of their two posts. I think Palmer can hold his own against either of them, but the other one will have Connolly on him, which spells mismatch.

- A big key for the Cards is keeping their big three out of foul trouble. All three of them play 29+ minutes per game and have a less than sufficient back up waiting in the wings. Those guys need to be on the court for SMU to remain competitive. On the same token, if Palmer can attack his match up and force Grzesiak-Grimm or Polta to foul early, AUG is thin at the four and five spot.

- If SMU lets the AUG shooters (Seidlitz 43% 3fg, Quammen 46% 3fg) get loose, it will be a long night for the Birds. As state above, there will be a match up that is unfavorable in the post, so they need to be careful where they double/help from. As far as SMU is concerned, they need to get to the hoop as they are shooting 5/29 from three on the season for 17% That said, they are getting to the free throw line just under 25 times per game, which will be vital for them as it means Auggie bigs in foul trouble and free points.

I like the Auggies in an 8 point win. Their road success against a couple of solid opponents will serve them well against a "lightly"  battle tested SMU squad.


I anticipate that both GAC v. BU and UST v. MAC will be 20+ point routes.

[huhoops]

Hey everyone. I'm new to the board and hope I don't catch too much grief. I realize I will have some coming my way. Hopefully you guys will also let me on the pick em's.

Unlike "Mr. Pannell", I will come right out and acknowledge that I am a Piper. I know new pipers have not been received well recently, but hope I can leave with some dignity in place.

I have enjoyed reading this board for awhile now and am finally ready to jump in.

The funny thing is, you have offered nothing but silent jabs at my posts.  First you are a piper, then not a piper player........so my motive was questioned. What is your true agenda? If none quit bringing me up, thanks
Umm, it's not so much if you're a Piper, Tommie, Ole or Gustie etc.  If you're an active player, coaches typically frown upon or discourage their players from posting. If you do post, as some former players have done in the past – be cool about it & don't let your teammates or coaches know.  If you're a family member or friend, be tactful about touting the merits of your homeboy.  Some of us have been posting for so long we forgot why we started.  Otherwise, have fun & go for it.

I expected the first comment to be from Drake, thanks for the warning, but I am no HU ball player and will not tout my biases.

I have been reading the board long enough to know how far boasting about a certain player (relative/friend) goes and hope I am more impartial than that.

I hate to get involved in drama already. Being a piper does not automatically qualify me as a player so that is a moot point. My agenda is to have good discussion about MIAC basketball on the board.

Getting into that, I am very excited for some conference matchups to begin tomorrow. I will be attending the Carleton-Hamline game which should be exciting, hopefully  If Hipp can stay in the game, Mike plays aggressive, they limit their TO's and Pannell shoots like he did against Vista, it could be a interesting game. Also, I haven't heard much about the status of Jonker, Sutherland, or Davis? Are they all doing well?

I expect the Tommies to have a decisive win over Mac, but will be interested in who chips in for Mac.

I also expect the Mary's-Auggies game to also be very close. Palmer does not have the height of Grimm, but is much more athletic and stronger. Should be a great game.

As for Bethel-Gustavus, I expect Gustavus to have a strong start like last year, but Bethel could be a sneaky competitor this year.

Let the real games begin!

I think you have the wrong guy. Someone (Drake, PI, Mose, TD, papa) correct me if I'm wrong, but I would say that Grzesiak Grimm is probably the most athletic five man in the entire conference

Also, this is the worst BU team that Westlund has had since he's been there. Generic comments about every team and then another Pannell name drop  I smell trouble 

[fanofball]

I have a hunch that superfan and fanofball might live in the same house  or maybe even the same body  Either way, the more the merrier. I was too hard on you FOB, I hope you stick around.



Definitely not the same person, or from same household.  Too hard on me?  Na, you just don't know me, or the reason for the  evaluation I have given, and that's fine.  I don't know all players from the conference, or team for that matter, so I was only able to comment on one guy.  All I meant to come across is that the "blazer" can and will help.  As time goes on the games will tell the story.  I do have some opinions on the other HU players but I haven't seen enough to come to a solid conclusion.  I think to win the game tomorrow, turnovers at crucial times(momentum) and rebounding would be the key to a HU victory.  Good luck in your pickem challenge,









Onto tomorrow nights match ups...

HU @ CAR:

- The biggest deciding factor in the outcome of this game is whether or not Seth Jonker is healthy enough to play a significant role for the Knights. In 3 games, Jonker is averaging a pedestrian 6 ppg (32% shooting and 0-6 from 3) and just under 3 rbds in 18 minutes. He only played 3 minutes in their last contest in Hawaii vs. Chaminade and I can't help but think he won't be ready to go for the match up against HU. With depth being a constant issue at Carleton, especially on the interior, I see this being a huge advantage for Hipp and my boys.

- The match up between Sutherland and M. Campbell will be very telling in the outcome of the game. If Campbell keeps the match up competitive, it bodes well for HU. Although he has proved to be a viable scoring threat, the ability to guard a player like Sutherland is where Campbell's impact will be most felt this season. HU really didn't have an athlete last year that could match up with Sutherland, so if Campbell (and Hipp) stays out of foul trouble, the two major match ups (Sutherland and Jonker), should be taken care of.

- Carleton has a slight advantage on the wings IMO. Theisen and Biewen are bigger than Schmidt (if he plays), Taber, and Pannell. Their ability to stretch a defense and open up lanes for back doors and posts ups will be big for CAR. Aguirre matches up fine with either Biewen or Theisen and actually has an advantage because I don't think either of those Carleton players can stop him from getting to the hoop, although CAR usually has fantastic rotations and does a good job cutting off straight line penetration.

- I expect some double teams on Hipp. With the 25 pts and 7 Rbds he posted in just 19 minutes last year in the MIAC playoffs, I'm sure the Knights will be making sure the big man inside doesn't beat them.

Carleton has a slight edge in that their core group has some more experience and a more stable system than HU, but I think this one is pretty close to a coin flip.

AUG @ SMU...

Battle between 2 of the 4 remaining undefeated MIAC teams (who woulda thunk it  )

- I'm interested to see what the Auggies do to slow down the big three. Palmer isn't really an "optimal" match up for either Polta or A. Grimm, but he is much too aggressive for Quammen. Their stopper Sorenson will most likely take on the challenge of Wright, leaving the youthful Hines against Holland. The Dawgs need to keep Palmer off the glass or it will be a long night. Seifert has been solid off the bench, so his contributions could also throw a wrench in the AUG plan to steal one in Winona. Those four mentioned players account for a total of 58.5 ppg for the Cards.

- AUG has a big advantage with one of their two posts. I think Palmer can hold his own against either of them, but the other one will have Connolly on him, which spells mismatch.

- A big key for the Cards is keeping their big three out of foul trouble. All three of them play 29+ minutes per game and have a less than sufficient back up waiting in the wings. Those guys need to be on the court for SMU to remain competitive. On the same token, if Palmer can attack his match up and force Grzesiak-Grimm or Polta to foul early, AUG is thin at the four and five spot.

- If SMU lets the AUG shooters (Seidlitz 43% 3fg, Quammen 46% 3fg) get loose, it will be a long night for the Birds. As state above, there will be a match up that is unfavorable in the post, so they need to be careful where they double/help from. As far as SMU is concerned, they need to get to the hoop as they are shooting 5/29 from three on the season for 17% That said, they are getting to the free throw line just under 25 times per game, which will be vital for them as it means Auggie bigs in foul trouble and free points.

I like the Auggies in an 8 point win. Their road success against a couple of solid opponents will serve them well against a "lightly"  battle tested SMU squad.


I anticipate that both GAC v. BU and UST v. MAC will be 20+ point routes.

I have a hunch that superfan and fanofball might live in the same house  or maybe even the same body  Either way, the more the merrier. I was too hard on you FOB, I hope you stick around.

Onto tomorrow nights match ups...

HU @ CAR:

- The biggest deciding factor in the outcome of this game is whether or not Seth Jonker is healthy enough to play a significant role for the Knights. In 3 games, Jonker is averaging a pedestrian 6 ppg (32% shooting and 0-6 from 3) and just under 3 rbds in 18 minutes. He only played 3 minutes in their last contest in Hawaii vs. Chaminade and I can't help but think he won't be ready to go for the match up against HU. With depth being a constant issue at Carleton, especially on the interior, I see this being a huge advantage for Hipp and my boys.

- The match up between Sutherland and M. Campbell will be very telling in the outcome of the game. If Campbell keeps the match up competitive, it bodes well for HU. Although he has proved to be a viable scoring threat, the ability to guard a player like Sutherland is where Campbell's impact will be most felt this season. HU really didn't have an athlete last year that could match up with Sutherland, so if Campbell (and Hipp) stays out of foul trouble, the two major match ups (Sutherland and Jonker), should be taken care of.

- Carleton has a slight advantage on the wings IMO. Theisen and Biewen are bigger than Schmidt (if he plays), Taber, and Pannell. Their ability to stretch a defense and open up lanes for back doors and posts ups will be big for CAR. Aguirre matches up fine with either Biewen or Theisen and actually has an advantage because I don't think either of those Carleton players can stop him from getting to the hoop, although CAR usually has fantastic rotations and does a good job cutting off straight line penetration.

- I expect some double teams on Hipp. With the 25 pts and 7 Rbds he posted in just 19 minutes last year in the MIAC playoffs, I'm sure the Knights will be making sure the big man inside doesn't beat them.

Carleton has a slight edge in that their core group has some more experience and a more stable system than HU, but I think this one is pretty close to a coin flip.

AUG @ SMU...

Battle between 2 of the 4 remaining undefeated MIAC teams (who woulda thunk it  )

- I'm interested to see what the Auggies do to slow down the big three. Palmer isn't really an "optimal" match up for either Polta or A. Grimm, but he is much too aggressive for Quammen. Their stopper Sorenson will most likely take on the challenge of Wright, leaving the youthful Hines against Holland. The Dawgs need to keep Palmer off the glass or it will be a long night. Seifert has been solid off the bench, so his contributions could also throw a wrench in the AUG plan to steal one in Winona. Those four mentioned players account for a total of 58.5 ppg for the Cards.

- AUG has a big advantage with one of their two posts. I think Palmer can hold his own against either of them, but the other one will have Connolly on him, which spells mismatch.

- A big key for the Cards is keeping their big three out of foul trouble. All three of them play 29+ minutes per game and have a less than sufficient back up waiting in the wings. Those guys need to be on the court for SMU to remain competitive. On the same token, if Palmer can attack his match up and force Grzesiak-Grimm or Polta to foul early, AUG is thin at the four and five spot.

- If SMU lets the AUG shooters (Seidlitz 43% 3fg, Quammen 46% 3fg) get loose, it will be a long night for the Birds. As state above, there will be a match up that is unfavorable in the post, so they need to be careful where they double/help from. As far as SMU is concerned, they need to get to the hoop as they are shooting 5/29 from three on the season for 17% That said, they are getting to the free throw line just under 25 times per game, which will be vital for them as it means Auggie bigs in foul trouble and free points.

I like the Auggies in an 8 point win. Their road success against a couple of solid opponents will serve them well against a "lightly"  battle tested SMU squad.


I anticipate that both GAC v. BU and UST v. MAC will be 20+ point routes.

[TheSuperfan]

Hey everyone. I'm new to the board and hope I don't catch too much grief. I realize I will have some coming my way. Hopefully you guys will also let me on the pick em's.

Unlike "Mr. Pannell", I will come right out and acknowledge that I am a Piper. I know new pipers have not been received well recently, but hope I can leave with some dignity in place.

I have enjoyed reading this board for awhile now and am finally ready to jump in.

The funny thing is, you have offered nothing but silent jabs at my posts.  First you are a piper, then not a piper player........so my motive was questioned. What is your true agenda? If none quit bringing me up, thanks
Umm, it's not so much if you're a Piper, Tommie, Ole or Gustie etc.  If you're an active player, coaches typically frown upon or discourage their players from posting. If you do post, as some former players have done in the past – be cool about it & don't let your teammates or coaches know.  If you're a family member or friend, be tactful about touting the merits of your homeboy.  Some of us have been posting for so long we forgot why we started.  Otherwise, have fun & go for it.

I expected the first comment to be from Drake, thanks for the warning, but I am no HU ball player and will not tout my biases.

I have been reading the board long enough to know how far boasting about a certain player (relative/friend) goes and hope I am more impartial than that.

I hate to get involved in drama already. Being a piper does not automatically qualify me as a player so that is a moot point. My agenda is to have good discussion about MIAC basketball on the board.

Getting into that, I am very excited for some conference matchups to begin tomorrow. I will be attending the Carleton-Hamline game which should be exciting, hopefully  If Hipp can stay in the game, Mike plays aggressive, they limit their TO's and Pannell shoots like he did against Vista, it could be a interesting game. Also, I haven't heard much about the status of Jonker, Sutherland, or Davis? Are they all doing well?

I expect the Tommies to have a decisive win over Mac, but will be interested in who chips in for Mac.

I also expect the Mary's-Auggies game to also be very close. Palmer does not have the height of Grimm, but is much more athletic and stronger. Should be a great game.

As for Bethel-Gustavus, I expect Gustavus to have a strong start like last year, but Bethel could be a sneaky competitor this year.

Let the real games begin!

I think you have the wrong guy. Someone (Drake, PI, Mose, TD, papa) correct me if I'm wrong, but I would say that Grzesiak Grimm is probably the most athletic five man in the entire conference

Also, this is the worst BU team that Westlund has had since he's been there. Generic comments about every team and then another Pannell name drop  I smell trouble 

Holy crap, a fellow piper is slamming me down already.  As far as my "generic comments," I didn't want to go on a 30 line rant about who will win each game and why. Its called a summary. I will remember to make long elaborate posts in the future. IMHO, Palmer is more athletic than Grimm. If you disagree, I hoped as a fellow piper you could be respectful.

[huhoops]

Holy crap, a fellow piper is slamming me down already.  As far as my "generic comments," I didn't want to go on a 30 line rant about who will win each game and why. Its called a summary. I will remember to make long elaborate posts in the future. IMHO, Palmer is more athletic than Grimm. If you disagree, I hoped as a fellow piper you could be respectful.

I am an HU supporter and will always have an allegiance to the Pipers. I played for HU in the 2000's and have some of my best friends from those seasons. That said, I in no way feel an allegiance to everyone that comes on here posting in support of HU. I made a mistake , I am now aware of who you are and will be supportive of your posts, as I know they are genuinely as a nice guy who doesn't know much about the sport. I hope Carl and Nelly are okay with you posting on here 

FOB, Sorry I jumped the gun on you, man. That wasn't fair of me to call you out, I always get a little ornery this time of year 

[TheSuperfan]

Holy crap, a fellow piper is slamming me down already.  As far as my "generic comments," I didn't want to go on a 30 line rant about who will win each game and why. Its called a summary. I will remember to make long elaborate posts in the future. IMHO, Palmer is more athletic than Grimm. If you disagree, I hoped as a fellow piper you could be respectful.

I am an HU supporter and will always have an allegiance to the Pipers. I played for HU in the 2000's and have some of my best friends from those seasons. That said, I in no way feel an allegiance to everyone that comes on here posting in support of HU. I made a mistake , I am now aware of who you are and will be supportive of your posts, as I know they are genuinely as a nice guy who doesn't know much about the sport. I hope Carl and Nelly are okay with you posting on here 

FOB, Sorry I jumped the gun on you, man. That wasn't fair of me to call you out, I always get a little ornery this time of year 

Thank you for your support. It was never my intention to hide my identity as I used my normal email address. However I do not understand why Nelly would care if I was on here  I am glad you will support my posts, but do disagree that I don't "know much about the sport" unless your definition of "knowing the sport" is being a collegiate player.

If you know me so well, you would know how much I follow MIAC basketball.

[Gacman]

I'm attending the BU vs. GAC game tonight. This will be my first game in person this year and it should be interesting.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of optimism on this board for how BU will fare this year. I don't have them making the playoffs this year either, but I do think they could be a tough game for anyone on a given night with the talent they have in their top players. This team just doesn't have the depth or the height to stay consistent. I suppose I will no more after tonight. Should be fun.