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Quote from: AO on January 12, 2013, 05:53:17 PM
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Quote from: faunch on January 12, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
How much does 2 hours of paid programing on Ch. 45 cost U$T?  Really...when they can afford to do this it might be time for them to just go away.  U$T-TV...Really???  WTF???  This is not D3!!!
what's more D3- paying for airtime, or refusing to allow free webcasts because you fear losing attendance/money?

D3 is not about attendance revenue. Very few, if any D-III programs are rolling in the dough because of gate prices.
This comment is more related to football, as St. John's has resisted video webcasting, fearing the loss of ticket of revenue.  The vast majority of D3 pays to have their games webcast to the viewer for free, while St. John's has turned down Pat and d3football.com from providing a free webcast. 

Quote from: faunch on January 12, 2013, 05:08:29 PM
Are you watching this?  I know SJU hoops is terrible..the fact they're getting rolled doesn't really bother me.  It's that U$T has decided to go this direction is kind of sad to me. 
Yes, looked like it might be a good game for the first 10 minutes or so..   Don't know what it costs for a couple hours of programming on 45, I would doubt they would pay as much as other "paid programming", and it's a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of the new arena.

Do other D3 programs pay for this type of programming?  Maybe I'm wrong but I'm guessing not many do.
nearly all of them pay thousands for video webcasts, without having Davanni's and other advertisers.

But the others don't pay for TV broadcasts or 2 hour infomercials.  To me it doesn't feel like the spirit of D3 sports.


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Mustering up interest where there is none...  ;D

Sweet RedBird of Winona! Behind Michael Burfeind's 26 points and some sweet singing behind the 3 pt line, 6-12 3fga, SMU knocked off Bethel 75-72. Bethel's Taylor Hall was held to nine points, 13 points below his league leading average. 

Good humor typo of the day: "...as SMU rallied from a game-opening 14-point defect to beat the Royals 75-72 at the SMU Gym.
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Quote from: faunch on January 12, 2013, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: AO on January 12, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on January 12, 2013, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: AO on January 12, 2013, 05:02:17 PM
Quote from: faunch on January 12, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
How much does 2 hours of paid programing on Ch. 45 cost U$T?  Really...when they can afford to do this it might be time for them to just go away.  U$T-TV...Really???  WTF???  This is not D3!!!
what's more D3- paying for airtime, or refusing to allow free webcasts because you fear losing attendance/money?

D3 is not about attendance revenue. Very few, if any D-III programs are rolling in the dough because of gate prices.
This comment is more related to football, as St. John's has resisted video webcasting, fearing the loss of ticket of revenue.  The vast majority of D3 pays to have their games webcast to the viewer for free, while St. John's has turned down Pat and d3football.com from providing a free webcast. 

Quote from: faunch on January 12, 2013, 05:08:29 PM
Are you watching this?  I know SJU hoops is terrible..the fact they're getting rolled doesn't really bother me.  It's that U$T has decided to go this direction is kind of sad to me. 
Yes, looked like it might be a good game for the first 10 minutes or so..   Don't know what it costs for a couple hours of programming on 45, I would doubt they would pay as much as other "paid programming", and it's a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of the new arena.

Do other D3 programs pay for this type of programming?  Maybe I'm wrong but I'm guessing not many do.

Actually, happens fairly often. Very often in football, not as much in basketball but it's there. You don't think that STO broadcasts events for OAC schools out of the goodness of its heart, do you?
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2013, 11:57:36 PM
Quote from: faunch on January 12, 2013, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: AO on January 12, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on January 12, 2013, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: AO on January 12, 2013, 05:02:17 PM
Quote from: faunch on January 12, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
How much does 2 hours of paid programing on Ch. 45 cost U$T?  Really...when they can afford to do this it might be time for them to just go away.  U$T-TV...Really???  WTF???  This is not D3!!!
what's more D3- paying for airtime, or refusing to allow free webcasts because you fear losing attendance/money?

D3 is not about attendance revenue. Very few, if any D-III programs are rolling in the dough because of gate prices.
This comment is more related to football, as St. John's has resisted video webcasting, fearing the loss of ticket of revenue.  The vast majority of D3 pays to have their games webcast to the viewer for free, while St. John's has turned down Pat and d3football.com from providing a free webcast. 

Quote from: faunch on January 12, 2013, 05:08:29 PM
Are you watching this?  I know SJU hoops is terrible..the fact they're getting rolled doesn't really bother me.  It's that U$T has decided to go this direction is kind of sad to me. 
Yes, looked like it might be a good game for the first 10 minutes or so..   Don't know what it costs for a couple hours of programming on 45, I would doubt they would pay as much as other "paid programming", and it's a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of the new arena.

Do other D3 programs pay for this type of programming?  Maybe I'm wrong but I'm guessing not many do.

Actually, happens fairly often. Very often in football, not as much in basketball but it's there. You don't think that STO broadcasts events for OAC schools out of the goodness of its heart, do you?

If it is just one game... that could cost less money than to purchase streaming equipment and streaming all of your athletic events for a year without any revenue coming in. I know many schools that do just a few games or all of their games in a season in several different sports. Also, I don't know many athletic departments that do this without the college as a whole being part of the equation in terms of costs and other factors. It is actually a smart recruiting tactic...
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carletonsid

Man, this board has died this year. Kinda sad.

Great win for my Knights and Coach Kalland on Saturday, holding off Macalester without Shane McSparron. 400!!! Kalland has to be right up there among the best coaches in MIAC history -- certainly has done more with less than pretty much any coach in the conference. Their lack of depth really showed tonight - gave up 48 points in the first half and trailed by 20 at one point, climbed back with seven at 59-52 with under five minutes left and ran out of gas, scoring only two points the rest of the way. The bye comes at a good time before they head to Hamline on Saturday.

Tommies took care of the Oles, holding Sterling Nielsen without a FG.

Still like my Knights' chances at getting back to the MIAC Playoffs after last year's miss ended 10 consecutive appearances, a string very few programs in the conference can claim. Have to think that of those teams currently outside the top six that Bethel and Hamline have the best chances to turn things around, and of those Hamline is the best equipped. But who the heck knows what's happening over there? Not much being said. Do worry about the Knights' lack of depth, but after the Hamline game on Saturday, they'll have played roadies at UST, Augsburg, Gustavus, Concordia and Hamline. Like the second-half schedule - top teams at home, bottom-half teams on road. Still, gotta scratch and claw for every single win in the MIAC this season. No gimmies.

Mr. Ypsi

Haven't seen any follow-up after the big brou-ha-ha - what is the status of Hamline's coach and players?

SUMMIT!!!!!

Congrats to Guy Kalland on his 400th win, a landmark few MIAC coaches have ever reached (only six before him have reached the plateau). Kalland is one of the classiest men to ever coach in the MIAC.... best wishes Guy, and here's hopes for another 400!
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TommieHoops4Life

Congrats to Guy Kalland on 400 wins, truly a class act in the MIAC.

As for the Hamline question, I read somewhere that the players and coaching staff, minus Eugene Lawrence, will be reinstated for Wednesday night's game at St. John's.

Question for the MIAC historians (Maniac) out there: When was the last time a team has dominated the league overall like UST has this year? They're 10-0 in league play and only Carleton has stayed within single digits. Many teams are losing by 30+ points. I know UST had an undefeated record in league play a few years ago but I don't recall that the wins were as dominant as this.

Clearly to have any chance against St. Thomas this year you can't turn the ball over at all, beat the full-court pressure and hold the ball for most of the shot clock like Wisconsin does. I watched Saturday's game on TV and if the rest of the schedule goes like that, they won't lose. But is that overall good for the MIAC? Winning is great, but being battle tested may help them more come tourney time.

SUMMIT!!!!!

Quote from: TommieHoops4Life on January 15, 2013, 11:00:53 AM
Congrats to Guy Kalland on 400 wins, truly a class act in the MIAC.

As for the Hamline question, I read somewhere that the players and coaching staff, minus Eugene Lawrence, will be reinstated for Wednesday night's game at St. John's.

Question for the MIAC historians (Maniac) out there: When was the last time a team has dominated the league overall like UST has this year? They're 10-0 in league play and only Carleton has stayed within single digits. Many teams are losing by 30+ points. I know UST had an undefeated record in league play a few years ago but I don't recall that the wins were as dominant as this.
Clearly to have any chance against St. Thomas this year you can't turn the ball over at all, beat the full-court pressure and hold the ball for most of the shot clock like Wisconsin does. I watched Saturday's game on TV and if the rest of the schedule goes like that, they won't lose. But is that overall good for the MIAC? Winning is great, but being battle tested may help them more come tourney time.
TH4L- the UST team in 2008-09 was the only other UST team I'd consider. They wrapped up the confernce title ridiculously early and other than a late season game with Bethel, were never  threatened, but did not put up a string of 30+ marigin wins. Same for the 1994-95 UST team. The SJU teams in the mid to late 70s were dominant, but Augsburg was strong then too so neither could run the table.

Those are the only ones I recall....but there may be others?

That said, there are 5 games UST could lose (altho I doubt they will lose more than 1 or 2 of them) all on the road- at Concordia, Carleton, Augsburg, GAC and USJ. I'd rate Carleton and GAC as the 2 most likely of those.
After the game, the king and pawn go into the same box.

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Retired Old Rat

Those Johnnies teams were not winning by 30 to 40 points.  League was much more competitive, top to bottom.

No chance the Toms lose in Collegeville.  Unless the 8 of the top 10 players come down with the flu.  Or we water the court ahead of the game.
   
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SUMMIT!!!!!

Quote from: Retired Old Rat on January 16, 2013, 08:13:25 PM
Those Johnnies teams were not winning by 30 to 40 points.  League was much more competitive, top to bottom.

No chance the Toms lose in Collegeville.  Unless the 8 of the top 10 players come down with the flu.  Or we water the court ahead of the game.
Think you'll be in attendance up there? Its a Saturday. since its not on TV maybe Faunch will ride shotgun with ya  ;)
After the game, the king and pawn go into the same box.

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miacsuperfan

Quote from: miacmaniac on January 16, 2013, 12:52:23 AM
Quote from: TommieHoops4Life on January 15, 2013, 11:00:53 AM
Congrats to Guy Kalland on 400 wins, truly a class act in the MIAC.

As for the Hamline question, I read somewhere that the players and coaching staff, minus Eugene Lawrence, will be reinstated for Wednesday night's game at St. John's.

That said, there are 5 games UST could lose [/b] (altho I doubt they will lose more than 1 or 2 of them) all on the road- at Concordia, Carleton, Augsburg, GAC and USJ. I'd rate Carleton and GAC as the 2 most likely of those.

I am not sure what you are smokin' MANIAC, but I know I'd really like to try it whatever it is.   ::)  ::)

carletonsid

Quote from: miacsuperfan on January 17, 2013, 08:16:57 AM
Quote from: miacmaniac on January 16, 2013, 12:52:23 AM
Quote from: TommieHoops4Life on January 15, 2013, 11:00:53 AM
Congrats to Guy Kalland on 400 wins, truly a class act in the MIAC.

As for the Hamline question, I read somewhere that the players and coaching staff, minus Eugene Lawrence, will be reinstated for Wednesday night's game at St. John's.

That said, there are 5 games UST could lose [/b] (altho I doubt they will lose more than 1 or 2 of them) all on the road- at Concordia, Carleton, Augsburg, GAC and USJ. I'd rate Carleton and GAC as the 2 most likely of those.

I am not sure what you are smokin' MANIAC, but I know I'd really like to try it whatever it is.   ::)  ::)

Just don't see UST losing to anyone in the MIAC, but the five teams maniac picked makes sense.

GAC and Carleton - style and previous "success" vs UST
Augsburg and Concordia - probably the 2nd and 3rd best teams in conference, and both have size to match up (but probably not the guards)
SJU - rival (anything can happen)

However, if UST stays focused and executes, they're too good to lose to any of these five teams. Depth, size, shooting, superior athleticism at every position. Most importantly (IMO) they're a ferocious defensive team. That will carry them through any of these roadies where they might shoot it poorly. My goodness, in MIAC play UST averages 89.5 ppg and allows a meager 57.7 ppg. Since the calendar turned to 2013, they've scored more than 90 five times in seven games. One of those times they tallied 81 in a blowout of GAC (81-60) and the other time they ended up with "only" 78 against my Knights (78-69). That win over the Knights has to be the worst game they played all year in MIAC play. I mean, they shot 53% from the field, 54% from 3-point range, and out-rebounded the Knights 33-24. What an off night.

I think the interesting race will be for the second and third spots, trying to avoid the juggernaut Tommies until the MIAC Playoff Finals, and (of course) which teams make it into the conference tourney. Can Augsburg get it back on track (started 9-0, 3-3 in its last 6)? Is Concordia going to be able to hang on to a top spot (next five will tell: at GAC, vs. UST, at CAR, vs. AUG vs. STO). Can Gustavus grab a top-three seed (started 2-5, 7-1 since and big road win last night at Aug)? Are the Knights going to get back to the playoffs? (After game at Hamline Saturday, will have played top six teams on road, so prolly have the easiest second-half schedule in terms of home/road split.)  Can St. Olaf right the ship (really bad home loss to SMU last night, and maybe have toughest 2nd-half schedule: roadies to SJU, GAC, Concordia, CAR AUG, & UST)? What will happen at Hamline? Can Bethel and SJU find some consistency?

Guess we'll know the answers to all of these questions in four weeks time. Should be fun! 

Drake Palmer

Two posts in less than one week, nice job CSid.  ;)

Probably like yourself, I was surprised to see SMU knock off the Oles last night.  STO has a decent club and some nice youngsters coming up through the program.  However, they still need a legit post player to counter the likes of SMU's Michael Burfeind & other post players around the league.  Plus, skinny FY Will Swiggum, all 6-5 & 185 lbs of him had his second double-double of the season against the Oles.  Last night Swiggum had 13 points & 13 rebounds.  Earlier in the season he had 10 pts & 11 rebs against STO.  Nice to see SMU string a couple of games together.

Last night I made the mistake of only checking the MIAC stats page & it showed that only the Bethel –Cord game was going to be broadcast.  It was only toward the end of the night I realized that the Auggie-Gustie was also broadcast.  Too bad, it would have been fun toggling back & forth between AUG-GAC game & BET-CORD game.  Based on my observations from last night I don't see how either Bethel or Concordia could beat UST.  UST could exploit their quickness against the Cobbs in the paint, & exploit their quickness & superior athleticism against the Bethel guards.  For the first time in ages, I like the Cobb guards, & their shooting abilities, but there aren't enough of them.  Concordia should manage to hang on to a playoff spot, but last night's game was one they really needed to win.  Their next 5 games are doozies. "(next five will tell: at GAC, vs. UST, at CAR, vs. AUG vs. STO)."  Projected finish 5th.

Conversely, this is the first time in a few years when Bethel didn't have tough guard play, but the Royals might still sneak into the playoffs on the back of Taylor Hall.  See below.
The Gusties look like they might be starting to come around as both Ben Biewen & Jim Hill are starting to click at the same time along with the emergence of Isaac Tapp & development of Reed Sallstrom.

I like the Gusties and the Dawgs finishing in the top 3.

With the return of Taylor Hanson to the Carlies iron man 5, they should be right in the thick of things.  Right now, I would say Carleton's Scot Theisen is probably one of the most underrated players in the league & should be mentioned for MVP consideration along with Hall, Ebo from Cord, John Nance or Will DeBerg from UST, & possibly Dan Kornbaum from Augsburg.  Projected finish 4th.

It will be interesting to see which team gets the 6th playoff spot.  Despite all of their off- court troubles, the Pipes have got a decent, quick, & athletic team. So I think Bethel, St Olaf, St., Johns, & Hamline could all end up vying for the last playoff spot.
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Ok, my take at mid-year MIAC Awards:

First Team
Will DeBerg – UST
Taylor Hall – Bethel
Tommy Hannon – UST
John Nance – UST
Scott Theisen – Carleton

Second Team
Ben Biewen - Gustavus
Michael Burfeind - SMU
Jim Hill - Gustavus
Dan Kornbaum - Augsburg
Ebo Nana-Kweson - Concordia

Honorable Mention
Dior Ford - Hamline
Sterling Nielsen – St. Olaf
Eric Tengwall - UST
Sam Marshall – Macalester
Tommy Sawatzke – Carleton
Kyle Zimmerman – Bethel

MVP – Scott Theisen
POY – Taylor Hall

All Defense Team
Tommy Hannon – UST
Dewon McKenzie – Concordia
John Nance – UST
Eric Tengwall – UST
Scott Theisen – Carleton

All Freshman Team
Riley Aeikens – St. Olaf
Taylor Montero - UST
Wesley Pinera – Hamline
Brett Rasmussen - Augsburg
Will Swiggum – St. Marys

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