MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[SagatagSam]

A 17-person all-conference team definitely does not help All-Region voters accurately reflect the MIAC, that's for sure.

[SagatagSam]

Ok, so each team has five starters. I understand that they are not the only ones that play, but most teams typically do not have all-conference players coming off the bench.

11 teams multiplied by 5 starters is 55.

17 all-conference recipients is 30.9% of all starters in the league.

There were also seven honorable mentions, which means the 24 all-conference and honorable mention winners represent 43.6% of all starters in the league.

If we assume that the average team in the league plays a 8-man rotation, you have a better than 1 in 4 chance of being named to some kind of all-conference team (27.3% chance to be exact).

[SagatagSam]

Feels a bit like every kid gets a trophy.

Tell me I'm wrong.

[carletonknights]

You are not wrong.

1st team + 2nd team. So 18% chance of making 1st or 2nd as a starter. That seems about right

[bball1122]

I'll just say it - the new awards are terrible.   No conference player of the year is absurd.  No one wanted an offensive player of the year.  And not having a clear separation of the all conference teams waters down the accomplishments of the players that had the best seasons.  I'd love an all first-year team to return as well.  MIAC - make this a one year change and return to normalcy next year.  Signed, everyone.

[bball1122]

As for the results of the awards this year,  I thought they went as they should have, save for Defensive Player of the Year.   I already made my case for Holt over Ba, but I'll add a couple of kickers:  Holt's 48 steals were just 5 off the all-time MIAC record of 53, set by Mark Buri in 2001-02.  I'm not sure if there is a player who played primarily at the 5 that has been anywhere near that number,  while also leading the league in rebounds and finishing second in blocks.  Additionally, Holt has eight conference games in which he had 5+ blocks and steals combined.   Ba had two such games.   Ba is a defensive force in the paint - Holt is a force in the paint and out.

[bball1122]

Final post for the night:  congrats to Carleton, a deserving conference champion and a team that I think could make a little run in the Big Dance.  They wore down Hamline in the semis and were ready to roll from the opening tip against the Johnnies.  Beckler rose to the occasion - he was a star when they needed him to be, and more. 

[txg]

I'll just say it - the new awards are terrible.   No conference player of the year is absurd.  No one wanted an offensive player of the year.  And not having a clear separation of the all conference teams waters down the accomplishments of the players that had the best seasons.  I'd love an all first-year team to return as well.  MIAC - make this a one year change and return to normalcy next year.  Signed, everyone.

They are almost comically bad.  They made like 5 changes and all of them for the worse.

I also miss the all-defensive team.

[SagatagSam]

I'm wondering what, exactly, was wrong with the format we had?

[bball1122]

I'll just say it - the new awards are terrible.   No conference player of the year is absurd.  No one wanted an offensive player of the year.  And not having a clear separation of the all conference teams waters down the accomplishments of the players that had the best seasons.  I'd love an all first-year team to return as well.  MIAC - make this a one year change and return to normalcy next year.  Signed, everyone.

They are almost comically bad.  They made like 5 changes and all of them for the worse.

I also miss the all-defensive team.

Totally agree.

[txg]

Bummer.

[bball1122]

Bummer.

St Norbert was unconscious for a stretch in the middle of the first half and Carleton couldn't ever get it closer than 5 or 6.  SNC's length seemed to cause the Knights a fair amount of problems, and their lack of a third scoring option was apparent.  Beckler, however,  was incredible, and clearly entrenched himself in the Zach Johnson/Kevin Grow pantheon of best Carleton players of the past 20 years.   Knights have a lot coming back,  but Beckler is borderline irreplaceable.  Really fun season for the Knights.   I know some people with purple-colored glasses think the MIAC is less than without the Tommies, but I appreciated how competitive the season was and enjoyed seeing some new blood in the playoffs.   I'll go more in-depth eventually, but there is a lot of talent coming back next year.   Congrats Carleton on a record-setting season!

[Greek Tragedy]

Re: media timeouts.

My apologies and I stand corrected. I believe the WIAC had 16 min and 8 min media timeouts and I thought everyone did what the WIAC does. Just kidding. I've been to a few other games outside the conference, and I thought they had media timeouts as well. Oh well.

Curious if Raheem Anthony is returning. Beckler got an invite to the All-star game, so that makes me think Anthony is coming back since if you play in the all-star game, you're eligibility is done..

[tomt4525]

Re: media timeouts.

My apologies and I stand corrected. I believe the WIAC had 16 min and 8 min media timeouts and I thought everyone did what the WIAC does. Just kidding. I've been to a few other games outside the conference, and I thought they had media timeouts as well. Oh well.

Curious if Raheem Anthony is returning. Beckler got an invite to the All-star game, so that makes me think Anthony is coming back since if you play in the all-star game, you're eligibility is done..

Raheem Anthony entered the transfer portal and is getting a ton of D1/D2 interest.

[Greek Tragedy]

Re: media timeouts.

My apologies and I stand corrected. I believe the WIAC had 16 min and 8 min media timeouts and I thought everyone did what the WIAC does. Just kidding. I've been to a few other games outside the conference, and I thought they had media timeouts as well. Oh well.

Curious if Raheem Anthony is returning. Beckler got an invite to the All-star game, so that makes me think Anthony is coming back since if you play in the all-star game, you're eligibility is done..

Raheem Anthony entered the transfer portal and is getting a ton of D1/D2 interest.

Thanks.