MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[columbianmaffia]

On another note, did anyone watch the Gophs today? Bryce Webster looked like a scared little kid trying to guard Greg Oden. He got posterized on a dunk in the first half. Oden is just a man.

sorry...i was at the game and i would have to disagree with this comment...webster held oden to 2-8 or 3-8 shooting i believe before oden got the dunk...he did a solid job (besides the dunk) of forcing oden to get the ball a step or two farther out than he wanted to...i thought he did a solid job and played one of his best games as a gopher on the defensive end of the court...too bad the gophers cant rebound...i will agree that oden is a man and he did dominate big spencer on both ends of the court...i thought spencer was the one that looked scared

i went to the CAR GUSTIES game saturday...the first half seemed rather blah but it was fun to see some of the bench players and future players get some extra pt since the game had no effect on mondays matchup...with about 12 minutes left in the game it seemed to me that the two teams cranked it up a notch...i thought johnson played his better all around games yesterday....i think the key to the rematch monday for the GAC is if swoden and wittwer can both get theirs and a little help from the bench or another starter....i think the key for CAR is they need to play a solid team game and have good contributions from all their starters rather than a couple

[sumander]

In case any one is wondering the bandwagon is doing just fine! After yesterday's derailment we had her in the shop today for 4 fresh tires and fuel! It will be good to go by Wednesday!

First observation from yesterday, The big three for UST played like the big three 59 points and 27 boards. That is an afternoons worth of work.

Second observation from yesterday, That was a much stronger UST team than we saw in Collegeville 1 month ago. The role players for the Tommies were at least as effective if not more effective than the #6-#9 players of the Johnnies. This was the reverse of the earlier game in Collegeville.

Third observation, How great was that atomosphere yesterday? The only thing that will match it will be next Saturday when, hopefully we get to do it all over again!

Can someone who was at the game explain the whole drama at the end where there was nearly a brawl? From what I'm told, Schnettler bumped into somebody near the SJU bench during the timeout, and that's how it got started. I also hear that Keating got hot about something too.

TH4L, I was sitting right behind the J's bench. Here is my take on the situation. A time out was called by coach Smith. Westman and Schnettler got tangled up with each other prior to the TO, after the whistle they went chest to chest and were talking smack. Schnettler turned toward the UST bench. It looked like Smith might have said something to him, becasue he turned around and started back toward the J's bench. When he did that both C. Schafer and Westman grabbed him. That's when a little scuffle took place. This resulted in the double T's.

A good officiating crew would have never let this happen. When all of this started there was not an official in my line of sight. If one of the officials was reporting the TO to the bench this would have take place right in front of him. It's the job of the other two officials to prevent this situation!
Just another stone to throw at the crew. It would be interesting to see what kind of rating they got for that game. Inconsistent would be the kindest adjective one could use to describe them.

So round two goes to the Tommies! Here's to hoping both squads take care of business at home on Wednesday so we can do it all aver again next Saturday.

[miacfan55]

From what every one was saying it sounded like a party at St. Thomas and who would've expected any differet. I still can't believe how many people were turned away it is crazy and makes for an interesting situation when next Saturday rolls around. Maybe if St. Johns is there they will send there buses a little earlier this time. But whose saying that this is automatic that it will be St. Johns and St. Thomas. Most likely that will be the case but if Bethel beats St. Olaf and Gustavus beats Carleton, then you have two teams who each beat the higher seeded team in the regular season. Not to mention that Bethel lost at St. Johns by only 4 points and could've very easily swept the season series. What I'm saying is nothing is for granted and it will be interesting to see what happens on Monday and then if all goes how it should even more interesting to see what happens on Wednesday.

[sumander]

Not to mention that Bethel lost at St. Johns by only 4 points and could've very easily swept the season series. What I'm saying is nothing is for granted and it will be interesting to see what happens on Monday and then if all goes how it should even more interesting to see what happens on Wednesday.

MF55, Don't disagree with you that nothing can be taken for granted, but  SJU's 4 pt win over BET was on Jan 3. That was the first game after the J's took an early spring break in Daytona! 

This is a very different basketball team from the one that played in early January. They have played very well their last 4 games at home! Hamline shocked them at home in the playoffs last year, I don't think this crew of seniors will let that happen again. Unless I miss my mark (which has been done before) I will be very surprised if the J's don't post a very workmanlike victory over the Royals in Collegeville Wednesday night.

[VOJ]

The dust up between Westman and Schnettler started just after the the TO was called...Schnettler took a swipe at the ball and Westman took offense, then they woofed at each other...If Schnettler would have just walked to his bench, it would not have been a big blow up...Lonnie Robinson running over didn't help. 

IF and I do mean a BIG IF the J's face the Tommies again, they need to change up D strategy a bit...Westman on Dwyer and Ohme on Robinson...Robinson hurt the J's with dribble pentration

Also someone other than Brady Brink and Jason Fogt needs to step up off the bench...there has not been alot of help lately off the bench from the guards with scoring...

I worry if the J's have to face Bethel on Wednesday...Madson was darn near unstopable at Arden Hills last time and then Moberg took over in the 2nd half...we'll see what happens, but don't count out the KOZ... he has had 4 days to prepare and his team won a huge game over the Gusties on the road...

About the Gusties...alot of people on the board have been on Wittwer... without getting into specifics, I found out that he has an injury which allows him to play for 4 min and then sit for 6 or else he is in a world of hurt...that plus the passing of his father has made it a VERY tough year...cut the kid some slack...

[Freebird]

Not to mention that Bethel lost at St. Johns by only 4 points and could've very easily swept the season series. What I'm saying is nothing is for granted and it will be interesting to see what happens on Monday and then if all goes how it should even more interesting to see what happens on Wednesday.

MF55, Don't disagree with you that nothing can be taken for granted, but  SJU's 4 pt win over BET was on Jan 3. That was the first game after the J's took an early spring break in Daytona! 

This is a very different basketball team from the one that played in early January. They have played very well their last 4 games at home! Hamline shocked them at home in the playoffs last year, I don't think this crew of seniors will let that happen again. Unless I miss my mark (which has been done before) I will be very surprised if the J's don't post a very workmanlike victory over the Royals in Collegeville Wednesday night.

I guess I would have to ask how much better they compared to the Jan 31st match up BU won by 12?

[miacwatchmen]

Ditto, about the JV game.  Watch, what happened to the vaunted JV D in the 2nd half?  One of the highlights in the 2nd half was when a Johnnny defender guarding a baseline  in-bound play against the Tommies accidentally kicked the ball up & off the scoreboard 25 -30 feet off the floor.  I thought I was at a soccer match! 

That situation may be the highest I have seen a ball kicked in my life. It flew off his foot like a rocket!

[miacwatchmen]

Yes, the 3,500 we have St. John's listed for is in the top 25 or so in Division III. How often is it filled, though?

I will admit that my perspective on  attendance is based on when I was in school 20 years ago when attendance was very strong for  all home  games at St. John's (we still had J term) and every game against St. Thomas was packed  beyond capacity (both home and away) no matter what the records were.   I'm just old I guess. 

PS I still think St. Thomas's gym is too small. 

I totally agree with you. 2,200 capacity? There were 3,300 at SJU for the game on Jan. 17 there should have been more yesterday! Maybe UST sould consider scrapping Schoenecker for a larger gym. 

[sumander]

Not to mention that Bethel lost at St. Johns by only 4 points and could've very easily swept the season series. What I'm saying is nothing is for granted and it will be interesting to see what happens on Monday and then if all goes how it should even more interesting to see what happens on Wednesday.

MF55, Don't disagree with you that nothing can be taken for granted, but  SJU's 4 pt win over BET was on Jan 3. That was the first game after the J's took an early spring break in Daytona! 

This is a very different basketball team from the one that played in early January. They have played very well their last 4 games at home! Hamline shocked them at home in the playoffs last year, I don't think this crew of seniors will let that happen again. Unless I miss my mark (which has been done before) I will be very surprised if the J's don't post a very workmanlike victory over the Royals in Collegeville Wednesday night.

I guess I would have to ask how much better they compared to the Jan 31st match up BU won by 12?

Home and road! Johnnies have yet to figure out how to win a big game on the road! Royals have struggled on the road as well!  

[Freebird]

Not to mention that Bethel lost at St. Johns by only 4 points and could've very easily swept the season series. What I'm saying is nothing is for granted and it will be interesting to see what happens on Monday and then if all goes how it should even more interesting to see what happens on Wednesday.

MF55, Don't disagree with you that nothing can be taken for granted, but  SJU's 4 pt win over BET was on Jan 3. That was the first game after the J's took an early spring break in Daytona! 

This is a very different basketball team from the one that played in early January. They have played very well their last 4 games at home! Hamline shocked them at home in the playoffs last year, I don't think this crew of seniors will let that happen again. Unless I miss my mark (which has been done before) I will be very surprised if the J's don't post a very workmanlike victory over the Royals in Collegeville Wednesday night.

I guess I would have to ask how much better they compared to the Jan 31st match up BU won by 12?

Home and road! Johnnies have yet to figure out how to win a big game on the road! Royals have struggled on the road as well!  

True true, UST has had major struggles there as well.  It doesn't seem like that bodes to well for MIAC teams once the NCAA playoffs start

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

Yes, the 3,500 we have St. John's listed for is in the top 25 or so in Division III. How often is it filled, though?

I will admit that my perspective on  attendance is based on when I was in school 20 years ago when attendance was very strong for  all home  games at St. John's (we still had J term) and every game against St. Thomas was packed  beyond capacity (both home and away) no matter what the records were.   I'm just old I guess. 

PS I still think St. Thomas's gym is too small. 

I totally agree with you. 2,200 capacity? There were 3,300 at SJU for the game on Jan. 17 there should have been more yesterday! Maybe UST sould consider scrapping Schoenecker for a larger gym. 

Why scrap an arena where you're 251-73 (.775)? Why level an arena where you are 18-2 against your main rival? Not to mention 20 wins in a row vs conference foes? Maybe if certain teams weren't scared to play in the Shoe, it wouldnt be the biggest home court advantage in the MIAC.

MW-- that 3300 was an abberation...I doubt SJU has drawn anything near that in the past 5 years except for vs SCSU back in December. (I know, back in the day, SJU used to be THE tough road game and sell out regularly, but that was before Sexton remodeled the place for them....bad karma since then.)

[miacwatchmen]

Yes, the 3,500 we have St. John's listed for is in the top 25 or so in Division III. How often is it filled, though?

I will admit that my perspective on  attendance is based on when I was in school 20 years ago when attendance was very strong for  all home  games at St. John's (we still had J term) and every game against St. Thomas was packed  beyond capacity (both home and away) no matter what the records were.   I'm just old I guess. 

PS I still think St. Thomas's gym is too small. 

I totally agree with you. 2,200 capacity? There were 3,300 at SJU for the game on Jan. 17 there should have been more yesterday! Maybe UST sould consider scrapping Schoenecker for a larger gym. 

Why scrap an arena where you're 251-73 (.775)? Why level an arena where you are 18-2 against your main rival? Not to mention 20 wins in a row vs conference foes? Maybe if certain teams weren't scared to play in the Shoe, it wouldnt be the biggest home court advantage in the MIAC.

MW-- that 3300 was an abberation...I doubt SJU has drawn anything near that in the past 5 years except for vs SCSU back in December. (I know, back in the day, SJU used to be THE tough road game and sell out regularly, but that was before Sexton remodeled the place for them....bad karma since then.)

Sexton is just too big. The fans are close to the court on just one side. At the Shoe you are surrounded by people from every angle. Its much tougher to play at a packed SHoe than to play at Sexton when its packed.

[sju4life]

From everything i heard about the scuffle, apparantly after westman and schnettler bumped each other jim smith then said something to schnettler while he walked "somewhat" through SJU's huddle.  This prompted schnettler to head back towards the bench and then westman,  craig schaefer and others went after him.  I would also have to agree that a good or probably even average officiating crew would have been able to stop this from happening.  I dont recall at the SJU game keating and schnettler whining so much.  Is this normal for them because saturday everytime schnettler missed a shot he was barking at the refs and everytime keating got fouled it looked like he was gunna cry.  can anyone else agree with me that matt ohme went to town on that number 4 dwyer??  Ohme played with extreme motivation and really dominated him from the start to the finish!!!

[Freebird]

From everything i heard about the scuffle, apparantly after westman and schnettler bumped each other jim smith then said something to schnettler while he walked "somewhat" through SJU's huddle.  This prompted schnettler to head back towards the bench and then westman,  craig schaefer and others went after him.  I would also have to agree that a good or probably even average officiating crew would have been able to stop this from happening.  I dont recall at the SJU game keating and schnettler whining so much.  Is this normal for them because saturday everytime schnettler missed a shot he was barking at the refs and everytime keating got fouled it looked like he was gunna cry.  can anyone else agree with me that matt ohme went to town on that number 4 dwyer??  Ohme played with extreme motivation and really dominated him from the start to the finish!!!

Ohme certianly took him out of his game especially when the 3rd foul(I can't remember what...blocking maybe?) was called around half court.  Tuma played well enough when he was on the floor and didn't seem to force anything which was impressive to see.

[SJU09]

MW-- that 3300 was an abberation...I doubt SJU has drawn anything near that in the past 5 years except for vs SCSU back in December. (I know, back in the day, SJU used to be THE tough road game and sell out regularly, but that was before Sexton remodeled the place for them....bad karma since then.)

I agree that the Sexton remodel was not good from a fan perspective.  I don't know what the thought process was with moving fans away from the court? That was just stupid.