MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[localcoach]

72-69 Tommies 

-Mr. Viau finished with 19 points and 14 rebounds
-Joe Scott goes 2-14 FG for 5 points
-Tyler Nicolai with 12 points (all 3's) and 0 assists

[TommieHoops4Life]

UST wins 72-69 in OT. McCoy makes a lay-up with 1.2 seconds left, then steals a heave of an inbounds pass under Concordia's basket to seal the win.

The only negative on the night was Scott. 4 pts on 2-15 shooting, 0-9 from 3 land. Viau 19 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists and a couple steals.

[The Roop]

Actually............ Had the Tommies shot better from the line they wouldn't have needed an overtime period. Still a good win however.

[AO]

good win for the toms, the golden bears don't quite have the juice to beat d3 teams in overtime in consecutive games.  If the MIAC doesn't want csp when the new arrivals in the northern sun start hammering on the golden bears, the UMAC would be happy to welcome them back, i'm sure.

[The Roop]

Ouch. SNAP !!

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

In nine previous meetings between UST(CST) and C-StP, the Tommies hold a 9-0 advantage. Although, I don't believe they have met since C-StP moved "up" to D-II after being soundly rejected in its appeal for membership in the MIAC.

Since I'm afflicted with that incurable disease called curiosity, I'm gonna just go ahead and ask: Why was Concordia-St. Paul rejected for MIAC membership?

Greg- both C-StP and St Scholastica were turned down as potential members of the MIAC because many of the conference schools felt the league would be too large with any additional members. For example, in women's hoops, with the 25 game limit an additional member would mean 24 conference games and only 1 non-conference opening. The idea of splitting into divisions was floated and shot down as teams like the long-standing rivalries and didn't want to see them diluted. I've heard that some of the members may have felt that C-St P "fit" the academic model of the rest of the MIAC, but Im not sure about that.

UST is now 11-0 all-time vs. C-St P and 3-0 since the Bears went to D-2.

good win for the toms, the golden bears don't quite have the juice to beat d3 teams in overtime in consecutive games.  If the MIAC doesn't want csp when the new arrivals in the northern sun start hammering on the golden bears, the UMAC would be happy to welcome them back, i'm sure.

You might want to limit your inane comments to bashing women's hoops. C-StP is capable of holding its own in the NSIC and Division II...for example, back-to-back NCAA championships in volleyball (which coincidently is 2 more NCAA titles than the UMAC as a whole has)

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

Actually............ Had the Tommies shot better from the line they wouldn't have needed an overtime period. Still a good win however.

true...and if they'd shot their usual from 3-pt land, it woulda been a comfortable win....but a win is a win.

I knew UST did a good job rebounding, but 50-37? wow, not bad for the shorter - and supposedly undersized - team. C-StP listed 2 guys at  6'10" or more...only 1 suited, he played very little and did nothing.  Heiman is a hellova shooter,. but the Bear who impressed me most was Hackl--- nice touch from outside. Also, Cunningham is a solid all-around player and did an excellent job taking Scott out of the game.

Viau carried the Tommies the first 30 minutes or so...McCoy stepped up huge in the close. All in all, a typical TEAM effort for UST.

[AO]

In nine previous meetings between UST(CST) and C-StP, the Tommies hold a 9-0 advantage. Although, I don't believe they have met since C-StP moved "up" to D-II after being soundly rejected in its appeal for membership in the MIAC.

Since I'm afflicted with that incurable disease called curiosity, I'm gonna just go ahead and ask: Why was Concordia-St. Paul rejected for MIAC membership?

Greg- both C-StP and St Scholastica were turned down as potential members of the MIAC because many of the conference schools felt the league would be too large with any additional members. For example, in women's hoops, with the 25 game limit an additional member would mean 24 conference games and only 1 non-conference opening. The idea of splitting into divisions was floated and shot down as teams like the long-standing rivalries and didn't want to see them diluted. I've heard that some of the members may have felt that C-St P "fit" the academic model of the rest of the MIAC, but Im not sure about that.

UST is now 11-0 all-time vs. C-St P and 3-0 since the Bears went to D-2.

good win for the toms, the golden bears don't quite have the juice to beat d3 teams in overtime in consecutive games.  If the MIAC doesn't want csp when the new arrivals in the northern sun start hammering on the golden bears, the UMAC would be happy to welcome them back, i'm sure.

You might want to limit your inane comments to bashing women's hoops. C-StP is capable of holding its own in the NSIC and Division II...for example, back-to-back NCAA championships in volleyball (which coincidently is 2 more NCAA titles than the UMAC as a whole has)

Volleyball, really?  The point i was trying to make was the d-2 is really not that far away from d-3.  When you see concordia st. paul go to overtime twice in a row against opponents less than 5 miles away, you kind of get the feeling that those teams should be playing every year.

[abominable_snowman]

Actually............ Had the Tommies shot better from the line they wouldn't have needed an overtime period. Still a good win however.

true...and if they'd shot their usual from 3-pt land, it woulda been a comfortable win....but a win is a win.

What a great game to watch.  It was just fun.  In my tainted opinion it looked like the tommies just outworked concordia all night.  At the start of the second half the tommies had 3-5? turnovers and took a while to get dialed in.  Kudos to BJ Viau for an amazing game. 

One of my favorite series of the night (aside from the clutch 3 from Nicolai)

08:03   Ust-men   MISSED JUMPER by Nicolai,Tyler
       REBOUND (OFF) by Viau, B.J.
08:00   Ust-men   MISSED TIP-IN by Viau, B.J.
       REBOUND (OFF) by Viau, B.J.
07:58   Ust-men   MISSED LAYUP by Viau, B.J.
       REBOUND (OFF) by Viau, B.J.
07:55   Ust-men   GOOD! LAYUP by Viau, B.J.   
07:52   CU   TURNOVR by Cunningham, Mike
07:51   Ust-men   STEAL by Robinson,Lonnie
07:49   Ust-men   GOOD! LAYUP by Robinson,Lonnie (fastbreak)   
07:49   CU   FOUL by Cunningham, Mike
07:49   Ust-men   GOOD! FT SHOT by Robinson,Lonnie

[VOJ]

In nine previous meetings between UST(CST) and C-StP, the Tommies hold a 9-0 advantage. Although, I don't believe they have met since C-StP moved "up" to D-II after being soundly rejected in its appeal for membership in the MIAC.

Since I'm afflicted with that incurable disease called curiosity, I'm gonna just go ahead and ask: Why was Concordia-St. Paul rejected for MIAC membership?

Greg- both C-StP and St Scholastica were turned down as potential members of the MIAC because many of the conference schools felt the league would be too large with any additional members. For example, in women's hoops, with the 25 game limit an additional member would mean 24 conference games and only 1 non-conference opening. The idea of splitting into divisions was floated and shot down as teams like the long-standing rivalries and didn't want to see them diluted. I've heard that some of the members may have felt that C-St P "fit" the academic model of the rest of the MIAC, but Im not sure about that.

UST is now 11-0 all-time vs. C-St P and 3-0 since the Bears went to D-2.

good win for the toms, the golden bears don't quite have the juice to beat d3 teams in overtime in consecutive games.  If the MIAC doesn't want csp when the new arrivals in the northern sun start hammering on the golden bears, the UMAC would be happy to welcome them back, i'm sure.

You might want to limit your inane comments to bashing women's hoops. C-StP is capable of holding its own in the NSIC and Division II...for example, back-to-back NCAA championships in volleyball (which coincidently is 2 more NCAA titles than the UMAC as a whole has)

Volleyball, really?  The point i was trying to make was the d-2 is really not that far away from d-3.  When you see concordia st. paul go to overtime twice in a row against opponents less than 5 miles away, you kind of get the feeling that those teams should be playing every year.

AO don't forget about the major difference between the two games...the MIAC team came through with the W while the UMAC team proved it could be on the floor but could not come up with enough to win

Drake which MIAC clash will u be at on Saturday??  Or are you scouting/recruiting that day?

[BBTommie]

Actually............ Had the Tommies shot better from the line they wouldn't have needed an overtime period. Still a good win however.

true...and if they'd shot their usual from 3-pt land, it woulda been a comfortable win....but a win is a win.

I knew UST did a good job rebounding, but 50-37? wow, not bad for the shorter - and supposedly undersized - team. C-StP listed 2 guys at  6'10" or more...only 1 suited, he played very little and did nothing.  Heiman is a hellova shooter,. but the Bear who impressed me most was Hackl--- nice touch from outside. Also, Cunningham is a solid all-around player and did an excellent job taking Scott out of the game.

Viau carried the Tommies the first 30 minutes or so...McCoy stepped up huge in the close. All in all, a typical TEAM effort for UST.

Some other observations from watching the video feed:  Scott looked like he might have had the flu.  Robinson seemed more of a liability than an asset.  But, everyone else stepped up, showing that depth and desire are the Tommies best assets.

Maybe Nicholi's nickname should be "ice" after making those two late 3's and the fact that his shot has so much arc.

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

Happy New Year to all...and belated Christmas wishes...may your 2009 be filled with joy & happiness, and may a MIAC team bring home the walnut & bronze in March!

[Drake Palmer]

Alright fellas lets do a quick non conference update.

12-30 Prohibitive underdogs

St. Olaf    @ South Dakota - although a respectable final score, Oles go down 77-61.   Check

St. Mary's   @ St. Cloud State – check.  Huskies cruise 82-58.

12-30 Pickems

UW-River Falls (My new employer)  @ Hamline.  UWRF wins 81-76.

Pipes sorta neutralize Jontae Koonkaew as he has a miserable shooting night 4-17, but he's 10-11 from the FT line for 18 points & drops 9 dimes.   I also read on the WIAC board that Tony Thrasher got injured during the pre-game warm-up which was why he didn't play.  How the heck does that happen??  Plus no Bobby Morrow or the FY Max Van Ordstrand in the boxscore for Hamline.

UW-LAX   @ Carleton:  66-49

Ouch! The Eagles put the hammer down & thump the Carlies.  The knights shot a frostbitten 31.4% from the floor & the chief culprit was Zorro who must have slept in a Zero King freezer for several hours prior to the game. Johnson was 3-15 FGA, 1-6 from the 3pt line & 8-15 from the FT line. 

UST @ Concordia – STP 72-69

Yawn - Tommies win in an OT thrilla.   Here's a tip to all hoopers:  Chilling in the Zero King cooler is not a good idea prior to game time. Based on their respective frosty shooting performances you would think Carleton's Zach Johnson & UST's Joe Scott was auditioning for a spot in the upcoming Winter Carnival King's royal court.    Fortunately, Tyler Nicolai, Viau, McCoy & others didn't think that was such a cool idea.  Viau was a stud. 

Because of my new recruiting responsibilities, I was late getting to the game & was forced to mingle among some Tommie parents/adult types.  Give me the students any day.  There are some seriously obnoxious Tommie fans out there – wow!  Fortunately I was able to weave my way back to the more level headed Tommie/Bear parents and interested, neighborhood observers. 

So with one nonconference game left on the slate in mid February between Hamline & D2 UND, the MIAC's overall nonconference record drops to 26-27.

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Double post coming...

[Drake Palmer]

AO don't forget about the major difference between the two games...the MIAC team came through with the W while the UMAC team proved it could be on the floor but could not come up with enough to win

Drake which MIAC clash will u be at on Saturday??  Or are you scouting/recruiting that day?

VOJ -- based on the games scheduled for this Saturday I might have to take a pass & go football bowling or watch a non league matchup.  IMO, the best MIAC games are out of town & I'm not sure if they're worth the drive: the Cobbs Bethel game, Hamline at Carleton & or the Johnnies vs. SMU.  Northwestern taking on 34th ranked Gordon College from Massachusetts is also a consideration.

Happy New Year to all...and belated Christmas wishes...may your 2009 be filled with joy & happiness, and may a MIAC team bring home the walnut & bronze in March!

Mose – based on your last post, it sounds like you might still be a bit giddy after last night's OT win.  You might want to take a dip in the Zero King for a couple of minutes to cool you off a tish.  Just a tish though. 

[sumander]

Happy New Year to all...and belated Christmas wishes...may your 2009 be filled with joy & happiness, and may a MIAC team bring home the walnut & bronze in March!

Mose – based on your last post, it sounds like you might still be a bit giddy after last night's OT win.  You might want to take a dip in the Zero King for a couple of minutes to cool you off a tish.  Just a tish though. 

DP, As I read that post I thought Mose might be getting just a little a head of himself considering the deep(?) playoff runs the T's have made the last three years. 

After a horrendously busy month of work, Here's hoping things calm down a little in January!

Plus k to the usual suspects!