MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Nites]

Tommies win 68-59.  McCoy with 16 to lead the way.  Johnson leads Carleton with 24.

Knights go 11-20 from the line.  Playing UST they needed all of those freebies.

No 20 steals this week for the Tommies (only 5).  The game was played at Carleton's tempo.

Viau got a breakway steal near the end of the game and went up for his  left handed stuff only to find himself stuffed by the underside of the rim.

BET over St. Olaf 74-69.

Hamline over Gustavus 70-59.  The power of the Manifesto ....

SJU over Concordia 57-49.

Augsburg over MAC 66-52

[oldjammer]

Never seen Coach Hanson so disgusted with the GAC game--about all he had to say on the post game radio interview was 'you don't win many games when you shoot 33%'.  I don't think the Gusties had more than 1 person in double figures and the outside shooting was horrendous.  I actually could hear Hanson yelling at a few of the gusties--don't think I have experienced that before

Thrasher put on quite a 3 point shooting display--didn't miss too many of them.  Hipp was in foul trouble early and rode the bench a good part of the game.

[Willy Wonka]

Never seen Coach Hanson so disgusted with the GAC game--about all he had to say on the post game radio interview was 'you don't win many games when you shoot 33%'.  I don't think the Gusties had more than 1 person in double figures and the outside shooting was horrendous.  I actually could hear Hanson yelling at a few of the gusties--don't think I have experienced that before

Thrasher put on quite a 3 point shooting display--didn't miss too many of them.  Hipp was in foul trouble early and rode the bench a good part of the game.

I got the same feeling from talking to a couple former teammates. Given the circumstances — a chance to lock up a playoff spot in front of numerous alumni on a day of celebration — it might be fair to call this the most disappointing Gustie performance in years. Still wish I would have been there, though 

As usual, get your recaps all in one place

[VOJ]

Viau got a breakway steal near the end of the game and went up for his  left handed stuff only to find himself stuffed by the underside of the rim.

U can't fake the funk on the nasty dunk....

Never seen Coach Hanson so disgusted with the GAC game--about all he had to say on the post game radio interview was 'you don't win many games when you shoot 33%'.  I don't think the Gusties had more than 1 person in double figures and the outside shooting was horrendous.  I actually could hear Hanson yelling at a few of the gusties--don't think I have experienced that before

Thrasher put on quite a 3 point shooting display--didn't miss too many of them.  Hipp was in foul trouble early and rode the bench a good part of the game.

I got the same feeling from talking to a couple former teammates. Given the circumstances — a chance to lock up a playoff spot in front of numerous alumni on a day of celebration — it might be fair to call this the most disappointing Gustie performance in years. Still wish I would have been there, though 

As usual, get your recaps all in one place

Lock up a playoff berth?  Maybe, but right now, outside of UST is there a hotter team than Hamline?  The Manifesto must be flexing its muscles down the stretch....

Only one game in the conference Monday night...a very important GAC-Carleton matchup

[piperinsider]

We're comin! 2009-10 conference champions (where has this team been all season...injuries are one thing...but they still weren't close to this before UWRF)!

[Willy Wonka]

Another piece up as SJU's Smith nears 700 wins. I promise this one mentions the Tommies only in passing.

[papahoops]

Willy, I read the article that Myles wrote in December about the "raw deal" Johnson got. (Nice interview with Myles by the way.) It is funny to me because the ref that made it personal is the same ref that told Carleton players in that game, "If I see someone on the ground, I call a foul whether I see it happen or not." Referring to an incident in the game when Jonkers was called for a blocking foul when he was on the ground because he slipped on the floor, no where near the other player. Come on, when I heard this I couldn't believe a ref would admit to that. At least stick to your guns and made it seem like you know what you are doing out there. Yes, Johnson maybe a flopper at times, but I think this year he has actually gotten better with that, but either way, call the game the way you see it, not how you feel or how you think it is going to happen. It's not fair to anyone.

Appreciate the feedback. Honestly, the combination of poor reffing and Johnson's tired act both get under my skin. One is something we've all had to deal with for years. The other is something you say is now under control — and I can only hope that you're right.

A 1v1 game in the streets between Archer and Johnson would be something I want absolutely NO part of watching. Both seem to have turned the emotional/behavioral corner...but it could get dicey tomorrow.

Since I'm here, I might as well highlight my latest post. Highlights include:

• Hoag humiliating himself
• A UST player wearing tights
• McGivern creating a humorous piece in response to getting called out by the Strib

[papahoops]

Apologize for the double post, but I meant to comment on earlier posts that Johnson has improved on the flopping front. After attending the UST/Carleton game yesterday, I would say rumers of this "improvement" are greatly exaggerated. His performance yesteday was worthy of an a theatrical award. Fortunately, the refs didn't buy the act and he landed a technical after a particulary strong flop effort on an off balance 3 with no time left on the shot clock.  The defender didn't touch him, yet he fell backward and writhed in agony complaining to the ref before getting T'd up.I also enjoyed the ref tossing a couple of Carleton students out of the gym for their verbal "defense" of Zorro's actions. Very good theater!!!   

[basketballlover]

Apologize for the double post, but I meant to comment on earlier posts that Johnson has improved on the flopping front. After attending the UST/Carleton game yesterday, I would say rumers of this "improvement" are greatly exaggerated. His performance yesteday was worthy of an a theatrical award. Fortunately, the refs didn't buy the act and he landed a technical after a particulary strong flop effort on an off balance 3 with no time left on the shot clock.  The defender didn't touch him, yet he fell backward and writhed in agony complaining to the ref before getting T'd up.I also enjoyed the ref tossing a couple of Carleton students out of the gym for their verbal "defense" of Zorro's actions. Very good theater!!!   

I was going to respond to you, cause you don't have all your facts straight, but decided to just let you have your opinion. Just have to say the refs yesterday deserved some talking to. How do you miss a call where Davis gets a fast-break basket and on his way down gets taken to his back by McCoy and there was no call (it was only Davis, McCoy and another Tommie player on that side of the floor, hard to miss)? It was a cheap shot by McCoy that really could have hurt someone. I am sure Davis is feeling it this morning.

[papahoops]

Bballover
I don't recall that play, and would agree UST got their fair share of calls as the visiting team, but the refereeing had no impact on the outcome of the game. In general, a deep team like UST has an built in advantage on calls, as they can play very aggressively on D and not really suffer when players pick up a few quick fouls. For example, yesterday Nicolai picks up 2 fouls the first half and UST is able to insert a point guard of Tuma's caliber. Over the course of the game, refs aren't going to make all the calls against one team, so the deeper team often gets away with some.

[Drake Palmer]

Apologize for the double post, but I meant to comment on earlier posts that Johnson has improved on the flopping front. After attending the UST/Carleton game yesterday, I would say rumers of this "improvement" are greatly exaggerated. His performance yesteday was worthy of an a theatrical award. Fortunately, the refs didn't buy the act and he landed a technical after a particulary strong flop effort on an off balance 3 with no time left on the shot clock.  The defender didn't touch him, yet he fell backward and writhed in agony complaining to the ref before getting T'd up.I also enjoyed the ref tossing a couple of Carleton students out of the gym for their verbal "defense" of Zorro's actions. Very good theater!!!   

I was going to respond to you, cause you don't have all your facts straight, but decided to just let you have your opinion. Just have to say the refs yesterday deserved some talking to. How do you miss a call where Davis gets a fast-break basket and on his way down gets taken to his back by McCoy and there was no call (it was only Davis, McCoy and another Tommie player on that side of the floor, hard to miss)? It was a cheap shot by McCoy that really could have hurt someone. I am sure Davis is feeling it this morning.

In honor of the upcoming Hallmark holiday...

Valentino (bbballover)  -

I watched a portion of the Carlie -UST game on the net yesterday & I saw something happen out of the corner of my eye on that Davis McCoy encounter. It certainly looked like something could have been called on McCoy.  On the other hand, what about that phantom foul & excellent flop by Zorro when McCoy tickled him with a feather on that post up move late in the first half?  The Goose looked like he got blindsided by a shotgun blast & was splayed out all over the floor.  I was half expecting him to reach into his jersey & squeeze the trick pouch full of ketchup.  I still contend he & Teddy Archer from UST should run a mini- camp for young hoopers next summer.     And one last comment on the officiating: Carleton 11 team fouls  - UST 18 team fouls.

[basketballlover]

I only have one question...why are you so critical of him when he does it? When all over the league players do it and get the same call and it is a good play by them?

[HarryDH]

In regards to the McCoy-Davis bump.  There could have been a call, but from what I saw watching the online feed. Davis was falling backwards as McCoy was back checking and they came to a collision.  I probably would have called a foul on him, but I can see where the refs might have seen davis already starting to fall as they crashed into one another.

On another note, did anyone catch the end of the Bethel-Olaf game to watch Koz up to his old tricks.  Bethel had a 2 point lead w/ about 35 sec. and got a phantom foul call on what appeared to be a clean block and instead of just letting it go and give his team a chance to win Koz goes off and gets a T.  Instead of Bethel knocking down 1 free throw for a 3 pt lead or 2 for a 4 pt lead, Bethel gets to shoot 4 free throws and makes three to go up 5 and put the game pretty much out of reach.  Not to say that Olaf would have ended up winning the game without the T, but it put them in a really bad spot.  They had shot the lights out from three so if Laugen would have only made 1 of 2 on the initial foul, they could have tied it up on one shot instead of having to come back and force the tempo.

[VOJ]

I only have one question...why are you so critical of him when he does it? When all over the league players do it and get the same call and it is a good play by them?

Bballlover...I have to disagree with you...players all over the league do not flop, those types of generalizations are often misconstrued, and this is no different. 

I can't think of 1 player on SMU or Concordia who is a flopper or Gustavus or St. Olaf or MAC and I am sure there are other teams, but I am not going to go through each one...I admit I have only seen those teams twice this year, but I have also never heard any player from those teams discussed that way on this board.

Its an earned reputation...and another T for him?  That makes 3 by my count, the two he got the first time around against SJU when he was tossed and one against UST, wonder what the record is for a player in the MIAC...maniac  do you know?

[Nites]

U can't fake the funk on the nasty dunk....

Love the line VOJ. +k

On the other hand, what about that phantom foul & excellent flop by Zorro when McCoy tickled him with a feather on that post up move late in the first half?  The Goose looked like he got blindsided by a shotgun blast & was splayed out all over the floor.  I was half expecting him to reach into his jersey & squeeze the trick pouch full of ketchup. 

It may have been a bit theatrical, but I think it was an offensive foul on McCoy.  I thought Johnson played pretty good defense on that play.  Earlier in the game, Johnson bulled McCoy over and got called for an offensive foul.

From a theatrics standpoint, I thought the missed 3 where Johnson got T'd up was the hands down winner.  Johnson went up anticipating contact that didn't appear to be forthcoming so he waved his arms and splayed his legs out as he hucked up a shot.  It was pretty comical.

I thought Viau's missed dunk was pretty amusing as well.  That rim played some pretty hellacious defense.  I'm sure he's been hearing about that one from his teammates.

[And one last comment on the officiating: Carleton 11 team fouls  - UST 18 team fouls.

3 of which were intentional committed in the last minute or so of the game.