MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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Carleton gets screwed...

Ao's squad @ St Thomas

UW-River Falls vs Illinois Wesleyan

Yeah, I'm pretty suprised by this.  After the Concordia & Augustana pods were announced I thought it would be UST-North  & UWRF-Carleton.  It was going that way until the last spot.  I was barely even paying attention and then I here IWU get announced

[tommiegun]

Wow,

Tough break for the Carlies.  I know its not one of the criteria but do you think the MIAC's recent struggles in the NCAA's had anything to do with the snub (yes, I know St. Thomas made it to the Elite 8 two years ago but, they were supposed to go at least that far)?

[larry_u]

Wow,

Tough break for the Carlies.  I know its not one of the criteria but do you think the MIAC's recent struggles in the NCAA's had anything to do with the snub (yes, I know St. Thomas made it to the Elite 8 two years ago but, they were supposed to go at least that far)?

No...they can't take that into considration.  My guess what made the difference is that Carleton's only major Regional win was at home against UST while Ill Wes had two big wins over North Central and one over Augustana....

Guessing that both teams were on the board at the same time when it came down to the last pick, and the major regional wins were the kicker for IWU over Carleton....but its tough to tell

[AO]

Northwestern fans reaction to drawing St. Thomas

--players reaction--

Carleton was robbed.  They gave Stevens point the best run in the tournament last year, and could have been dangerous again.

[Drake Palmer]

Tough luck Carlies.  That's a drag.

This is a very dangerous opening round bracket for UST.  I t will be real interesting to watch the UWRF game vs, Illinois Wesleyan.

Also, nice move by the NCAA to split Whitworth away from the other west and midwest teams.  

[carletonsid]

Wow,

Tough break for the Carlies.  I know its not one of the criteria but do you think the MIAC's recent struggles in the NCAA's had anything to do with the snub (yes, I know St. Thomas made it to the Elite 8 two years ago but, they were supposed to go at least that far)?

No...they can't take that into considration.  My guess what made the difference is that Carleton's only major Regional win was at home against UST while Ill Wes had two big wins over North Central and one over Augustana....

Guessing that both teams were on the board at the same time when it came down to the last pick, and the major regional wins were the kicker for IWU over Carleton....but its tough to tell

Hmm, don't see "major" regional wins as a criteria. I do see regional win pct. and wins over regionally ranked teams, and Carleton has the edge over IWU in both. The only edge IWU had was in SOS, which trended way up for IWU this week (hmmm...) and a bit down for the Knights. Still, according to the NCAA's own published criteria and numbers, Carleton should have made it.

[piperinsider]

2010-11 MIAC Men's Basketball Awards
Joe Hutton Player-of-the-Year - Carl Hipp, Hamline (Sr., Little Canada, Minn./Totino-Grace)
Sixth Man-of-the-Year - Caleb Rosenow, Carleton (Jr., Red Wing, Minn.)
Coach-of-the-Year - Guy Kalland, Carleton (27th season)

2010-11 MIAC Men's Basketball All-Conference Team
Seth Anderson
Aaron Burtzel
Mike Campbell
Bobby Fong
John Fraase
Alex Healy
Carl Hipp
Seth Jonker
Stuart Neville
Tyler Nicolai
Darrin Olmscheid
Chris Palmer
Cory Polta
Jeremy Sutherland
Will Wright

2010-11 MIAC Men's Basketball All-Defensive Team
Teddy Archer
Carl Hipp
Tyler Nicolai
Brett Sorenson
Jeremy Sutherland

2010-11 MIAC Men's Basketball All-First Year Team
Connor Gunderson
Parker Hines
Christian Skinner
Tyler Pannell
Justin Wasik

2010-11 MIAC Men's Basketball All-Conference Honorable Mention
Andy Burns
Andy Grzesiak-Grimm
Taylor Hall
Tommy Hannon
Pierce Peters
Matthew Quammen
Caleb Rosenow
Dan Schmidtknecht
Phil Wirtjes

2010-11 Men's Basketball All-MIAC Sportsmanship Team
Augsburg - Anthony Humphrey (Jr., Minneapolis, Minn./DeLaSalle)
Bethel - Zach Hurd (Sr., Portage, Mich./Northern)
Carleton - Jason Weischedel (Sr., Essex, Vt./Junction)
Concordia - John Fraase (Sr., Bismarck, N.D./Century)
Gustavus - Mat Doble (Sr., Sarasota, Fla./Cardinal Mooney)
Hamline - Matt Farb (Jr., St. Cloud, Minn./Tech)
Macalester - Holden Bigler-Johnson (Sr., Austin, Texas/Anderson)
Saint John's - Aaron Barmore (Jr., Bloomington, Minn./Jefferson)
Saint Mary's - Lukas Holland (Sr., La Crosse, Wis./Central)
St. Olaf - Tucker Sheley (Sr., Backus, Minn./Pequot Lakes)
St. Thomas - Peter Leslie (Jr., West St. Paul, Minn./Henry Sibley)

[Drake Palmer]

I just did a quick scan, but overall, I'd say a nice job by the coaches on the All Conference awards.

[miacsuperfan]

Wow,

Tough break for the Carlies.  I know its not one of the criteria but do you think the MIAC's recent struggles in the NCAA's had anything to do with the snub (yes, I know St. Thomas made it to the Elite 8 two years ago but, they were supposed to go at least that far)?

hey, total bummer of a deal for the knights.  the miac get's NO respect.  now it REALLY makes me wish that gac had nabbed the toms on sunday.

scary thought: northwestern going postal from the arc and beating st. thomas this week.   think it might be a bit difficult to listen to AO for awhile?   

don't think we are going to have to worry about it.

[carletonsid]

Wow,

Tough break for the Carlies.  I know its not one of the criteria but do you think the MIAC's recent struggles in the NCAA's had anything to do with the snub (yes, I know St. Thomas made it to the Elite 8 two years ago but, they were supposed to go at least that far)?

hey, total bummer of a deal for the knights.  the miac WEST REGION get's NO respect.  now it REALLY makes me wish that gac had nabbed the toms on sunday.

scary thought: northwestern going postal from the arc and beating st. thomas this week.   think it might be a bit difficult to listen to AO for awhile?   

don't think we are going to have to worry about it.

Fixed your quote above. How the West rates 1 at-large bid of 18 is beyond me.

[papahoops]

I just did a quick scan, but overall, I'd say a nice job by the coaches on the All Conference awards.

I also can't argue with the coach selections, although I think Pierce Peters deserved consideration...very good all round player. My guess is the combination of being on the last place squad and and being a sophomore kept him off the list. I would consider him an excellent candidate to make both all conference and all defensive squads next year.

[John Gleich]

Wow,

Tough break for the Carlies.  I know its not one of the criteria but do you think the MIAC's recent struggles in the NCAA's had anything to do with the snub (yes, I know St. Thomas made it to the Elite 8 two years ago but, they were supposed to go at least that far)?

hey, total bummer of a deal for the knights.  the miac WEST REGION get's NO respect.  now it REALLY makes me wish that gac had nabbed the toms on sunday.

scary thought: northwestern going postal from the arc and beating st. thomas this week.   think it might be a bit difficult to listen to AO for awhile?   

don't think we are going to have to worry about it.

Fixed your quote above. How the West rates 1 at-large bid of 18 is beyond me.

Well, part of the reason for that is that there weren't any major upsets of conference leaders...  St. Thomas, Whitworth, and Stevens Point all won their conference tournaments, and there were quite a few upsets elsewhere.

It really stinks... one more victory last week and Carleton's win % would have improved... and their SOS would have too.

[tommiegun]

scary thought: northwestern going postal from the arc and beating st. thomas this week.   think it might be a bit difficult to listen to AO for awhile?   

don't think we are going to have to worry about it.

Don't jinx us. I didn't think we'd have to worry about Carroll in 2007 but they went postal from the arc.

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

scary thought: northwestern going postal from the arc and beating st. thomas this week.   think it might be a bit difficult to listen to AO for awhile?   

don't think we are going to have to worry about it.

Don't jinx us. I didn't think we'd have to worry about Carroll in 2007 but they went postal from the arc.

AGH!  NEVER mention that game again!   

[carletonsid]

scary thought: northwestern going postal from the arc and beating st. thomas this week.   think it might be a bit difficult to listen to AO for awhile?   

don't think we are going to have to worry about it.

Don't jinx us. I didn't think we'd have to worry about Carroll in 2007 but they went postal from the arc.

AGH!  NEVER mention that game again!   

UST's perimeter defense is much better than in 2007. No chance this happens. UST by 30.