MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Drake Palmer]

A little foreshadowing...? Conboy & Nicolai named Co-Players of the Week

Where's USTBumKneez & Jimmy Chitwood?

[thefightingscots]

SMU: whats the deal with these cardinals, they have plenty of talent between the 2 outstanding freshman Lukas Holland and Will Wright, and one of the most athletic players in the Confernce with Carr.  Is it something to do with coaching??? they always seem to be in the games but blow it in the 2nd half.  And why if Carr was named All-Tourny and is obviously one of their best players, does he get to sit on the bench for 3/4 of the game. 

Okay so I have been sitting back reading all of these posts about how great this Carr kid is. I have also seen the birds play some games and he has not impressed me all that much. YES, he is athletic but last time I checked, the game of basketball is about more than dunking. And enough about the all tournament team. Everyone does realize that every coach has to put one kid on the all tourney team right. Seeing as how SMU lost by 20 each game I am guessing that Coach Trewick had to pick the guy that played the best, even if that was not very good. And even if he did play well in the tournament, I checked the SMU box score and he is not even averaging 2 rpg. He is being out rebounded from kids like moses and barely has a higher avg. than Mario Allen and Mike Sweeney (all of which are perimeter players).

I agree that the birds are very talented but they are very young and I still think that they are a playoff team. Once they grow up and get that first win the MIAC better watch out!!

hoopscoopsmiac: ok, i never said the kid was the greatest player in the history of the miac, i believe i said he is one of their teams best players.  Now i didnt want to bring up stats because i believe basketball is about a lot more than stats, its all about how you play the game.  the kid is a team player, he doesn't force up shots like Cormier, Holland, or wright, or if you would like to go deeper, like conboy, linz, or abe.

he only takes about 5 shots a game.  that is way less than half of what cormier, holland and wright have been taking.  He also plays a lot less minutes than any of them.  he hardly turns the ball over, gets steals and blocks for the birds.

Now since they have played one game outside of winona, im going to go ahead and call your bluff on saying that you saw him play some games...now maybe you saw the game at MAC but if you did you had to be impressed.  4-5, 9 points in 13 minutes, 1 huge block, and one of the greatest dunks i've seen in the miac before.

Maybe my opinion is scued do to the fact that i know live in winona, so i became a fan of the birds and there new found run - n - gun style of play.  So if anyone else has seen this kid play lets get some opinions then.

[thefightingscots]

oh and by the way another thing...i heard the Carr kid got suspended, and figured something was up when he was in street clothes against Mankato saturday.  What did he do??? and how long is he out for

[d3bballfollower]

fightingscots- your argument that Carr doesn't force shots like Cormier and Holland might be valid, but to say Will Wright does as well is not...I have not seen SMU play yet this year and Wright may be forcing shots, but if he is then if I were Trewick I would continue to let him...Wright had scored 20+ points in the 4 games before the MSU game and he has one of the best field goal percentages on the team at almost 54% (53.7) and the best 3 point percentage at 50% (16-32)...your best shooter should be shooting the most on the team, especially when he is putting up numbers like Wright has been...

[thefightingscots]

i completely agree. Wright has earned the shots that he is putting up...however cormier and holland havent.  But my arguement was simply that if carr put up that amount of shots he would easily be averaging 15 a game.  I think Carr is more a physical presence that anything.  One of the radio guys for smu even labled him as an enforcer

[miacwatchmen]

--about cal poly vs. NAU--- I'd argue that Cal Poly has more of a minnesota connection than NAU as Matt Hanson from plymouth and Maranatha had 10 the other night against NAU on 4-5 from the field and unlike Schnettler and Sir can jump out of the gym.  Cal Poly also has a couple other mn bigs on the roster in thurow and manley and has received commitments from a couple more mn guys including Matt's brother David.   As a transition to talking about NWC and the UMAC vs. the MIAC, I might point out that relatives of the Hanson's and Sir's are a big reason NWC has had a lot of success lately.  Steve Sir's cousin Joe scored 1300 points while shooting 42% from three for his career, and Matt's younger brother's Dan and Steve are currently tearing it up for the current team.

I would say that the UMAC as a whole is a bit down this year, and has more parity within the conference.  Scholastica, Bethany and Morris lost their main weapons from last season, but are obviously still competitive.  Morris seems to be living up to last year's expectations this year.  If Fogt is back for the Morris game, he should be able to neutralize Phil Allen from Morris, but stranger things have happened as Moberg wasn't able to accomplish that.

My guys over at NWC are struggling to beat some of the worst teams in D3 right now.  We were losing to North Central at the half before starting to hit a few shots and win by 16, and the crown game was pretty close throughout.  Discher and Gonsior are out with injuries right now but could be playing by the Macalester game.  Let's just say that NWC should beat Macalester and Hamline on paper, but the way they're playing right now, they wouldn't.

Fogt won't be back so the J's will be lacking size again. Should be interesting for the J's going from SCSU to UM-Morris to see how they can rebound after a big loss.

In honor of my 1000th post +K all around. 

[d3bballfollower]

Congrats watchmen....+K to you

[columbianmaffia]

i make the needle move

[Chica yea false identification]

Given the opportunity Carr could be a great player in this conference, but he simply doesn't see the floor enough.

He's more of an inside threat than outside when it comes to scoring, but I don't look at Carr as a big time scorer.  He should be rebounding and blocking shots and being the "enforcer" as labeled.  He carries a swagger with him that you don't see from a lot of players in the miac, especially on a team that hasn't won a game.  Reality is though you still need that.  I also believe their record doesn't show how good they are.  All of their conference games could have very easily went the opposite way and they could be sitting at 4-0, but instead 0-4. 

[Nites]

Fogt won't be back so the J's will be lacking size again. Should be interesting for the J's going from SCSU to UM-Morris to see how they can rebound after a big loss.

In honor of my 1000th post +K all around. 

+k to you Watch

[MiacLostProphet]

Every coach has his system, and if a player doesn't fit into his system he doesn't play much.  Maybe Trewick's system is not for Carr.  Even if Carr is a great run n gunner that still doesn't mean he is doing what the coach asks of him.  There is a lot more to basketball than just talent, you have to play the whole game, not just certain aspects of it.  I have seen him play multiple times, although not for SMU, and the kid does have some crazy hops and is a good player, but maybe he doesn't fit into Trewick's plan for some reason or another.  More speculation, but maybe he doesn't play in games like he did in practice.  Maybe when the lights com on he freezes up a bit?

[hoopscoopsmiac]

Given the opportunity Carr could be a great player in this conference, but he simply doesn't see the floor enough.

He's more of an inside threat than outside when it comes to scoring, but I don't look at Carr as a big time scorer.  He should be rebounding and blocking shots and being the "enforcer" as labeled.  He carries a swagger with him that you don't see from a lot of players in the miac, especially on a team that hasn't won a game.  Reality is though you still need that.  I also believe their record doesn't show how good they are.  All of their conference games could have very easily went the opposite way and they could be sitting at 4-0, but instead 0-4. 

I agree with you almost 100% but if you look at the stat line for Carr he is not really doing either for them. Averaging less than 2 rpg as a post player is just not up to par. Especially for a kid that is athletic as Carr is. Now he does come up with some very nice blocks here and there but in the games that I have seen, when he is playing he tends to get more fouls called on him than blocks for SMU. I do agree with the fact that Carr should see more time than he is getting, MY point is simply that he needs to be more productive in areas other than scoring.

Fightingscotts - Do not forget that you might not be the only person to have seen the SMU Birds play in Winona.

Now since they have played one game outside of winona, im going to go ahead and call your bluff on saying that you saw him play some games...now maybe you saw the game at MAC but if you did you had to be impressed.  4-5, 9 points in 13 minutes, 1 huge block, and one of the greatest dunks i've seen in the miac before.

[abominable_snowman]

ole's lose to martin luther 75-68

[piperinsider]

ole's lose to martin luther 75-68

Ouch.

[AO]

Maybe I should have made a note in my earlier post about Martin Luther.---Schultz from Martin Luther probably benefited from playing in the Pulley pro-am league this summer against Hagen, Tollackson, Coleman as I wouldn't have expected this sort of performance out of him.  Attaway Knights!

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