MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

How is a guy like Carr getting this much pub on this site? He's a headcase and NOT that good...he might even be the MIACs version of Darius Miles.

Note: That's not a compliment.

[MiacLostProphet]

How is a guy like Carr getting this much pub on this site? He's a headcase and NOT that good...he might even be the MIACs version of Darius Miles.

Note: That's not a compliment.

Not that good.  When have you seen him play?  have you seen him play outside of SMU?  And if what you say about him not being good is true, well then that makes sense he is playing for Saint Mary's.  I doubt you have seen him play outside of SMU, because saying he is the Darius Miles of the MIAC is the dumbest thing i have ever heard.  to quote a great movie "We are all now dumber for hearing that."

on a lighter note, i would say that the lack of conversation topics also led to his extended pub.

[PTPer35]

Carleton squeaks by Bethany Lutheran 70-65, attaway Knights.

[AO]

Ouch.

[VOJ]

now, im new to d3hoops, but so far i like what i see, and i am sorry for changing the subject.  I am a graduate of mac, but i now live in the winona area.  I graduated in the same class as Van Thore, i'm sure many of you remember him. 

Anyways, i've been to all The SMU games down here, and a couple of MAC games.  So i've pretty much seen every team play so far, and this is going to be one crazy year.

Conboy: I'm glad he stopped being so soft.  He is tall and talented but doesn't use his strength like he should.

Abe: In MY opinion he is the best pg in the miac.  No one can hold him, and he passes the ball very well.  He could score as much as he wants.  When he decides that his team isn't getting it done, he takes it to another level.  2 game winning shots this year.

Drake Palmer: i read a post you had written about Zev Kujolic not playing, and i completely agree, he needs to be on the floor for hamline if they expect to keep this winning up.

SMU: whats the deal with these cardinals, they have plenty of talent between the 2 outstanding freshman Lukas Holland and Will Wright, and one of the most athletic players in the Confernce with Carr.  Is it something to do with coaching??? they always seem to be in the games but blow it in the 2nd half.  And why if Carr was named All-Tourny and is obviously one of their best players, does he get to sit on the bench for 3/4 of the game. 

St. Thomas is over rated from what I've seen, they're playing well now, but i they're nothing compared to what they used to be

Augsburg was supposed to be a middle of the pack team this year and yet they're winless with the birds in last place.

Just curious to see what you guys think.

Welcome to the board and way to stir it up with your comment on the Tommies...however I think you are wrong...Everyone new that the Tommies would take a step back talent wise, but I think everyone underestimated the guy who leads the program, knows how to coach, he is closing in on 500 wins... just because they don't have a solid 5 like they did last year to lead them he is taking bits of what everyone does well and winning games, I have been impressed with how he has adapted.

Augsburg is a mystery...I thought they were ready to jump out and make a run at a playoff berth, now I am not so sure...

[VOJ]

--about cal poly vs. NAU--- I'd argue that Cal Poly has more of a minnesota connection than NAU as Matt Hanson from plymouth and Maranatha had 10 the other night against NAU on 4-5 from the field and unlike Schnettler and Sir can jump out of the gym.  Cal Poly also has a couple other mn bigs on the roster in thurow and manley and has received commitments from a couple more mn guys including Matt's brother David.   As a transition to talking about NWC and the UMAC vs. the MIAC, I might point out that relatives of the Hanson's and Sir's are a big reason NWC has had a lot of success lately.  Steve Sir's cousin Joe scored 1300 points while shooting 42% from three for his career, and Matt's younger brother's Dan and Steve are currently tearing it up for the current team.

I would say that the UMAC as a whole is a bit down this year, and has more parity within the conference.  Scholastica, Bethany and Morris lost their main weapons from last season, but are obviously still competitive.  Morris seems to be living up to last year's expectations this year.  If Fogt is back for the Morris game, he should be able to neutralize Phil Allen from Morris, but stranger things have happened as Moberg wasn't able to accomplish that.

My guys over at NWC are struggling to beat some of the worst teams in D3 right now.  We were losing to North Central at the half before starting to hit a few shots and win by 16, and the crown game was pretty close throughout.  Discher and Gonsior are out with injuries right now but could be playing by the Macalester game.  Let's just say that NWC should beat Macalester and Hamline on paper, but the way they're playing right now, they wouldn't.

AO...the first time around Allen got his and it didn't matter...the J's won big, they had that first game excitement going for them, they were well prepared for Morris and played very well overall, I am hoping they are the tonic this three game losing streak needs...Allen is a good player, but truth be told they don't have a matchup for Brady, his size and ability make him too tough for them to defend, also Burtzel is too quick for Allen.

[VOJ]

--about cal poly vs. NAU--- I'd argue that Cal Poly has more of a minnesota connection than NAU as Matt Hanson from plymouth and Maranatha had 10 the other night against NAU on 4-5 from the field and unlike Schnettler and Sir can jump out of the gym.  Cal Poly also has a couple other mn bigs on the roster in thurow and manley and has received commitments from a couple more mn guys including Matt's brother David.   As a transition to talking about NWC and the UMAC vs. the MIAC, I might point out that relatives of the Hanson's and Sir's are a big reason NWC has had a lot of success lately.  Steve Sir's cousin Joe scored 1300 points while shooting 42% from three for his career, and Matt's younger brother's Dan and Steve are currently tearing it up for the current team.

I would say that the UMAC as a whole is a bit down this year, and has more parity within the conference.  Scholastica, Bethany and Morris lost their main weapons from last season, but are obviously still competitive.  Morris seems to be living up to last year's expectations this year.  If Fogt is back for the Morris game, he should be able to neutralize Phil Allen from Morris, but stranger things have happened as Moberg wasn't able to accomplish that.

My guys over at NWC are struggling to beat some of the worst teams in D3 right now.  We were losing to North Central at the half before starting to hit a few shots and win by 16, and the crown game was pretty close throughout.  Discher and Gonsior are out with injuries right now but could be playing by the Macalester game.  Let's just say that NWC should beat Macalester and Hamline on paper, but the way they're playing right now, they wouldn't.

Fogt won't be back so the J's will be lacking size again. Should be interesting for the J's going from SCSU to UM-Morris to see how they can rebound after a big loss.

In honor of my 1000th post +K all around. 

CONGRATS ON 1000 WATCHMEN, +k...since you go to some J's games we should meet up sometime...unless you are like Drake who wants to be more like "the shadow"

[sumander]

Watch, +k on 1,000! 

[hoopscoopsmiac]

How is a guy like Carr getting this much pub on this site? He's a headcase and NOT that good...he might even be the MIACs version of Darius Miles.

Note: That's not a compliment.

Not that good.  When have you seen him play?  have you seen him play outside of SMU?  And if what you say about him not being good is true, well then that makes sense he is playing for Saint Mary's.  I doubt you have seen him play outside of SMU, because saying he is the Darius Miles of the MIAC is the dumbest thing i have ever heard.  to quote a great movie "We are all now dumber for hearing that."

on a lighter note, i would say that the lack of conversation topics also led to his extended pub.

Carr is at SMU and has not done much and it is now his junior year, does it matter what he does outside of SMU anymore??

[VOJ]

How is a guy like Carr getting this much pub on this site? He's a headcase and NOT that good...he might even be the MIACs version of Darius Miles.

Note: That's not a compliment.

Not that good.  When have you seen him play?  have you seen him play outside of SMU?  And if what you say about him not being good is true, well then that makes sense he is playing for Saint Mary's.  I doubt you have seen him play outside of SMU, because saying he is the Darius Miles of the MIAC is the dumbest thing i have ever heard.  to quote a great movie "We are all now dumber for hearing that."

on a lighter note, i would say that the lack of conversation topics also led to his extended pub.

Carr is at SMU and has not done much and it is now his junior year, does it matter what he does outside of SMU anymore??

Hoopscoop...you may have inadvertently started a whole new topic...guys who have not lived up to the hype...I would interested to know what Drake, Watchmen and Maniac have to say and others who have been long time watchers of MIAC hoops...

[piperinsider]

Ouch.

You mocking me? Losing to an 0-6 team isn't something a team like St. Olaf should let happen. I am a daily reader of the New Ulm Journal, so I know a little bit about Martin Luther.

Nass and Free are good ball players, and I expect Holzhueter to be a ball player in the next few years. STO should have won, though.

[MiacLostProphet]

Hoops, You missed my point completely.  Just because someone hasn't produced in a system does not me they are not good.  Carr has not really produced in the SMU system, although no one really has for the fact they haven't been in the playoffs in who knows how long.  Put carr in another system and he could be amazing.  Darko didn't do squat in Detroit, now he is a decent ball player in another system with a different coach.  That was my point, that in a certain system certain players flourish, SMU might not be what Carr is suited for.

[Willy Wonka]

LostProphet - So, what system is he best suited in? If an alledgedly super-athletic 4-man (who doesn't rebound) can't produce in a run-n-gun system, where else should he go?

I suppose it doesn't help our perception that he's got "sweet" tats, verbally spars with his coach during a game to get suspended and — if my sources are accurate — tried to get into it with Jonte Flowers, a D2 stud, in the opener. Maybe he's just misunderstood, eh?

But I'm sure he was off the chain in 8th grade traveling ball!!

Can MIAC teams start playing again so us has-beens can't stop talking about this never-was...

[Nites]

LostProphet - So, what system is he best suited in? If an alledgedly super-athletic 4-man (who doesn't rebound) can't produce in a run-n-gun system, where else should he go?

I suppose it doesn't help our perception that he's got "sweet" tats, verbally spars with his coach during a game to get suspended and — if my sources are accurate — tried to get into it with Jonte Flowers, a D2 stud, in the opener. Maybe he's just misunderstood, eh?

But I'm sure he was off the chain in 8th grade traveling ball!!

Can MIAC teams start playing again so us has-beens can't stop talking about this never-was...

Willy - how nice of you to drop by to stir the pot.     Perhaps, Mr. Carr should be playing at GAC.  You're living proof that a rebel can succeed there!!!   

Off Topic

Since it's slow, I thought I'd share this in case someone is looking for something nutty to try.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMgWui4XTBM

[AO]

Ouch.

You mocking me? Losing to an 0-6 team isn't something a team like St. Olaf should let happen. I am a daily reader of the New Ulm Journal, so I know a little bit about Martin Luther.

Nass and Free are good ball players, and I expect Holzhueter to be a ball player in the next few years. STO should have won, though.

I was referring to the previous post noting that Bethany lost to Carleton.

as for the MLC-StO game, I was surprised as anybody, but Martin Luther wasn't the worst 0-6 team in the nation by any means.  No real cupcakes on their schedule to that point, and they had been very competitive in their previous three games.  The Schwartz at Martin Luther is also probably a better athlete than anybody olaf had, so maybe I shouldn't have been as surprised as I was.