MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[MiacLostProphet]

Again a double post, but just forgot one other question.  List the top recruiting classes you can remember in recent history in the MIAC.

[d3bballfollower]

MLP- there are also the young guys who come into the league as "crafty veterans"...remember Sweeney lead UST to the conference title game his freshman year...he wasn't a Tyler Nicolai guy, but he scored when he needed to and dished the ball when he needed to...just wanted to add another type of player to the mix...

[MiacLostProphet]

Very good point, i think some freshman or sophomores can come in a be great leaders like sweeney, but they you also have guys who never mature in their 4 years and are always in the quick and althletic role of a youngster who doesn't fully understand the game.

[columbianmaffia]

Is Macalester still a candidate for WTF syndrome though they're 3-0 in the MIAC?  They seemed to have more talent last year and didn't manage to beat St. Thomas, Gustavus, Bethel or St. John's.  There's got to be some serious Rudy factor at work for the Scots.

their top 2 players are back...a year older and a year better

UMAC = frozen pizza
MIAC = delivered pizza (including degiorno)

they are both pizza but delivery is just better no matter how you look at it

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

Is Macalester still a candidate for WTF syndrome though they're 3-0 in the MIAC?  They seemed to have more talent last year and didn't manage to beat St. Thomas, Gustavus, Bethel or St. John's.  There's got to be some serious Rudy factor at work for the Scots.

their top 2 players are back...a year older and a year better

UMAC = frozen pizza
MIAC = delivered pizza (including degiorno)

they are both pizza but delivery is just better no matter how you look at it

excellent analogy...spot on!

[d3bballfollower]

wow! we are now using analogies that use the opposition as part of the argument...guess you learn something new everyday

[AO]

Is Macalester still a candidate for WTF syndrome though they're 3-0 in the MIAC?  They seemed to have more talent last year and didn't manage to beat St. Thomas, Gustavus, Bethel or St. John's.  There's got to be some serious Rudy factor at work for the Scots.

their top 2 players are back...a year older and a year better

UMAC = frozen pizza
MIAC = delivered pizza (including degiorno)

they are both pizza but delivery is just better no matter how you look at it

excellent analogy...spot on!

except for the whole spelling thing (you would think that a triple burger lover would also know how to spell DiGiorno), and the accuracy.  you sound like johnnie football fans who were quoted saying things to Bethel fans like, "even though you beat us 2 years in a row, we're still the better team, every year, always, we're the best program"

[PTPer35]

AO - You aren't going to convince anyone the UMAC can compete top to bottom for the following reasons:

1. This is the MIAC board, not the UMAC board.
2. You are irrational.
3. The UMAC is not as good as the MIAC.
4. cMob eats triple burgers like nobody's business so he doesn't have to know how to spell.

It is fun to talk about games between two D-III conferences in the same state but please stop telling us the UMAC teams are 'better than we think they are' because they probably aren't.

[AO]

after hearing how the johnnies shouldn't be expecting an easy win over Morris the other week, I thought it was the MIAC fans thinking of UMAC teams as being better than they probably are.  I think the UMAC lost several key players from last season and are down this year, so the relative success of multiple teams has been a surprise to me.

[concordia of the north]

here's the thing about competition between the miac and the umac:

-snowman was getting close to it when he discussed the propensity for teams to play to the level of their opposition.  it takes a very disciplined, very mature team to thoroughly trounce all the teams that they should over the course of the season.

-i can only speak for the teams I was a part of, but I would guess that most miac schools are in similar boats.  we didn't really prepare and get hyped up for the umac games.  it's like preparing for those high school games playing against a team that you just wanted to score 100 on.  that mindset is not conducive to organized play.  the fact of the matter is that a solid high school team can get away with this and roll over an inferior opponent.  by the time you get to college, however, every roster should be capable of putting a good game together (except maybe north central).  so a lackadaisical attitude that flies in high school can result in ndsu over wisconsin, st. thomas over winona st., and occasionally a umac school beats a miac school above its mark.  i will grant that nwc is a more consistently capable team than others, but the conference as a whole is just not as strong. 

[Gregory Sager]

Is Macalester still a candidate for WTF syndrome though they're 3-0 in the MIAC?  They seemed to have more talent last year and didn't manage to beat St. Thomas, Gustavus, Bethel or St. John's.  There's got to be some serious Rudy factor at work for the Scots.

their top 2 players are back...a year older and a year better

UMAC = frozen pizza
MIAC = delivered pizza (including degiorno)

they are both pizza but delivery is just better no matter how you look at it

excellent analogy...spot on!

except for the whole spelling thing (you would think that a triple burger lover would also know how to spell DiGiorno

Everyone who follows this room is aware that CMob is an orthographically-challenged individual -- heck, he not only misspells his favorite food as "tripple burger", he even misspells both "Colombian" and "mafia". But the unspoken consensus in MIAC Conversations is that his freewheeling approach to the English language is a big part of the undeniable charm of his posts, and so nobody gives him any stick about it. Nobody but you, that is. Congratulations upon totally misreading the tenor of this room.

[miacwatchmen]

CMOB for MIAC Conversations President!!   

This board throws around alot of humorous topics and CMob leads the way with his posts. I personally feel the board wouldn't be the same without his tripple burgers and rollerskates!! His posts seem random at times but he has been posting since before I was here and most times his random points have solid content. Who cares about spelling anyways. Som tymes I have problims spelling two. If the content is relavent why should spelling matter?

[AO]

I wasn't badmouthing the CMob till he started comparing UMAC v MIAC to MAc v Big Ten.  It sounded all too reasonable of an argument that he spent far too much time thinking about logically, so I had to get after him somehow.  When he shifted the analogy to pizza, I couldn't tell if that was a compromise or a further attack, so I reacted with anything--Cmob's clearly the leader for life. no doubt

[Gregory Sager]

Well, it's your fault for trying to drag logic into it.

It ain't about logic, son ... it's all about spandex, rollerskates, and greasy food.

[abominable_snowman]

here's the thing about competition between the miac and the umac:

-snowman was getting close to it when he discussed the propensity for teams to play to the level of their opposition.  it takes a very disciplined, very mature team to thoroughly trounce all the teams that they should over the course of the season.

-i can only speak for the teams I was a part of, but I would guess that most miac schools are in similar boats.  we didn't really prepare and get hyped up for the umac games.  it's like preparing for those high school games playing against a team that you just wanted to score 100 on.  that mindset is not conducive to organized play.  the fact of the matter is that a solid high school team can get away with this and roll over an inferior opponent.  by the time you get to college, however, every roster should be capable of putting a good game together (except maybe north central).  so a lackadaisical attitude that flies in high school can result in ndsu over wisconsin, st. thomas over winona st., and occasionally a umac school beats a miac school above its mark.  i will grant that nwc is a more consistently capable team than others, but the conference as a whole is just not as strong. 

as i think about it more, this is also why ANYTHING can happen in the playoffs.  Generally speaking all teams get hyped when more is at stake.