MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[miacsuperfan]

i like dp's idea;  update on sju injuries somebody?  a tough situation turning tougher?   what is going down?

[bleednavyblue_GoBU]

This is the last thing I will say on this...then we can all move on...

You can't tell me that Brink was the 6th option on that team last year!!!  There are a lot of times when the 6th Man (example: Espenson at Gustavus his sophomore or junior year (can't remember)...or Matt Fredrickson at Bethel two years ago) is one of the top "options."  I would argue that Espenson coming off the bench was option 1 or 2.  Who cares who starts the game...so I think comparing the two is just fine.  They were both factors on their respective teams last year. 

OK...done

p.s. I'll take Madson

[Nites]

Alright - let's divert our attention elsewhere.  Sniff, sniff, I smell what?

Nah, nothing big but SMU backers & or anyone who was in attendance at the Shoe last night (Mose), what's the latest on Cormier & Rohr?  Did they go to the auto repair shop like Nick Carr to return in several weeks, or did they turn in their keys?


   

Drake,

I think they turned in their keys - or perhaps the locks were changed - because they aren't listed on the team's roster.

[Drake Palmer]

Alright - let's divert our attention elsewhere.  Sniff, sniff, I smell what?

Nah, nothing big but SMU backers & or anyone who was in attendance at the Shoe last night (Mose), what's the latest on Cormier & Rohr?  Did they go to the auto repair shop like Nick Carr to return in several weeks, or did they turn in their keys?


   

Drake,

I think they turned in their keys - or perhaps the locks were changed - because they aren't listed on the team's roster.

And no mention of them anywhere in the game summary or gameday preview.  I like this quote from Coach Trewick -   "They dominated us on the boards and we didn't do a good job of taking care of the basketball. When you can't do those two things, you are going to have problems."  You think?  When you lose your tallest players what would one expect? 

Mose, VOJ & others that know Coach Trewick & staff on a personal basis, I know you think they're great guys, but at some point don't you also look at the coaches as well as the players?  Isn't this about year 4 for Trewick?  I just checked and his best years he had a record of 9-16 and 8-16.

He has no post players to speak of & even IF he manages to land several top quality FY or transfer post players next season, it's going to be tough to turn the program around by the magical  "5th year." 

Some posters sure didn't have problems calling for Barry Wohler's head over at Hamline & he even managed to get the Pipes into the playoffs one year.

Food for thought.

[miacwatchmen]

If leiser is out for the year look for the Johnnies to drop out of the playoff race fast.  They would be stuck starting 2 freshman, a senior pg who is not a scorer, and a sophmore post who is very RAW (although he did have an ok game last night) I would not expect to see that every night or maybe ever again!!   Brady is a great player but to carry a starting lineup like that is almost impossible in the Miac !!

kind of like linz with two freshman and a raw but promising sophomore starting with him? hmm.

actually one of the freshmen in sju's lineup is scoring more ppg than both cobber freshmen combined. and the 'non-scoring' pg (i'm assuming you mean johnson) would be the fourth highest scorer on the cobber roster. 

"brady is a great player, but to carry a starting lineup like that is almost impossible in the miac!!"  that's been the cobber lineup all year.  maybe linz is a little greater than brink?

COTN-  +K for your dig on the scoring in different lineups. Its interesting to see what other players have to work with i.e. Linz

As for BB or Brady Brink. He had a bad game thats all. The kid can flat out play basketball and no one can deny him that. I have no doubt he can bounce back this Saturday vs the RedBirds.

This is the last thing I will say on this...then we can all move on...

You can't tell me that Brink was the 6th option on that team last year!!!  There are a lot of times when the 6th Man (example: Espenson at Gustavus his sophomore or junior year (can't remember)...or Matt Fredrickson at Bethel two years ago) is one of the top "options."  I would argue that Espenson coming off the bench was option 1 or 2.  Who cares who starts the game...so I think comparing the two is just fine.  They were both factors on their respective teams last year. 

OK...done

p.s. I'll take Madson

BleedNB- You are correct. Brink wasn't the 6th option on the SJU team last year. He was the 5th. Westman,Leiser,C. Schafer, Ohme, Brink and S. Schafer was the top 7 for them.  Brady attempted the 5th most FG on the team which was 4 ahead of Scottie2Hottie    He has 202 FG attempted this year and only had 155 last year. He now leads the team in shots and ,along with Johnson, the J's team.



p.s.s I'll take Brink 

[VOJ]

This is the last thing I will say on this...then we can all move on...

You can't tell me that Brink was the 6th option on that team last year!!!  There are a lot of times when the 6th Man (example: Espenson at Gustavus his sophomore or junior year (can't remember)...or Matt Fredrickson at Bethel two years ago) is one of the top "options."  I would argue that Espenson coming off the bench was option 1 or 2.  Who cares who starts the game...so I think comparing the two is just fine.  They were both factors on their respective teams last year. 

OK...done

p.s. I'll take Madson

Umm actually Brink was the 5th leading scorer last year...do your homework.  You can have the flashy gunner, I will take the all around player and win every time...By the way the bloodlines for Brink are impressive as well...do you know about them?  Probably not because as we have seen you do NO RESEARCH...Grampa Bob is a coaching legend at Rocori, Dad Kevin tore it up at Mn Morris back in his day...FYI


Didn't see watchmen's post before having to school the Blue and Gold(AGAIN)

[abominable_snowman]

Poll question posters...you get one choice Brink or Madson to start a team with?  Who do you pick...

That's easy: Madrink

[Sparticus-dttyd]

I know I haven't been part of this MVP battle going on here, but enough is enough. There are still 9 regular season games left. That is over a third of the season. A lot can happen in that time so its a little silly to get all worked up about something that is really irrelevant. Both players are the best on their respective teams and both are all -conference players. Regardless of the numbers, because both put up good ones, it will come down to w's and if both teams don't start righting the ship neither will be in contention for an award that is almost pointless anyways. Every year there are a number of players who could and should win MVP but don't for whatever reason. what matters is which player will take their respective teams deep in the playoffs because that is all the players themselves are worried about anyways.

[PTPer35]

I know I haven't been part of this MVP battle going on here, but enough is enough. There are still 9 regular season games left. That is over a third of the season. A lot can happen in that time so its a little silly to get all worked up about something that is really irrelevant. Both players are the best on their respective teams and both are all -conference players. Regardless of the numbers, because both put up good ones, it will come down to w's and if both teams don't start righting the ship neither will be in contention for an award that is almost pointless anyways. Every year there are a number of players who could and should win MVP but don't for whatever reason. what matters is which player will take their respective teams deep in the playoffs because that is all the players themselves are worried about anyways.

I second that.

[Willy Wonka]

VOJ is spewing heat like Tiki Barber circa September. I hope he's able to commentate a little more rationally than that. Or else he'll be like the 7th grade boys coach from New Prague I saw tonight who has received 5 techs in 23 career games. He kicked the bench in frustration at one point, angry that one lady ref (who had reffed three straight terrible games and was clearly running on fumes) and one mom in street clothes they pulled out of the stands didn't see a foul. He's my friend, so I think it's hilarious that he acts like Pitino during the UK glory days in front of 8 fans.

Brink played the 4th most minutes for SJU last year and usually played in crunch time. Madson tied for first on Bethel. The difference was just under 7 minutes a game. That's a more telling stat than the starter/bench player info y'all been shouting about.

Win some games and then we'll see who's eligible for the MVP, because right now CON is dead on. Brink and Madson are more in danger in falling out of the discussion/playoffs than they are of winning any awards.

[thefightingscots]

drake in response to your eralier post rohr and cormier are both done and the cards don't seem to distraught over it from what i hear!!!

Skibbity???

word has it smu put in a new defense and offense after their embarrassing loss to the tommies? i heard some major reconstruction is going on in winona???

and why aren't they reconstructing the coaching staff? hasn't it been long enough?

[VOJ]

VOJ is spewing heat like Tiki Barber circa September. I hope he's able to commentate a little more rationally than that. Or else he'll be like the 7th grade boys coach from New Prague I saw tonight who has received 5 techs in 23 career games. He kicked the bench in frustration at one point, angry that one lady ref (who had reffed three straight terrible games and was clearly running on fumes) and one mom in street clothes they pulled out of the stands didn't see a foul. He's my friend, so I think it's hilarious that he acts like Pitino during the UK glory days in front of 8 fans.

Brink played the 4th most minutes for SJU last year and usually played in crunch time. Madson tied for first on Bethel. The difference was just under 7 minutes a game. That's a more telling stat than the starter/bench player info y'all been shouting about.

Win some games and then we'll see who's eligible for the MVP, because right now CON is dead on. Brink and Madson are more in danger in falling out of the discussion/playoffs than they are of winning any awards.

Wonka my whole argument has been rational...Madson is a gunner...Brink is better all around...and I said if either team was in the top three they would get consideration for MVP...I have been consistent with that...not going off without doing a little research.

hey Scots...what type of offense and defense are the Cards putting in?  Will we see the swing, which is trev's favorite?  Personally I hope they come out in a 2-3 zone...Auggy did that and fell behind 21-4...

[Willy Wonka]

Some posters sure didn't have problems calling for Barry Wohler's head over at Hamline & he even managed to get the Pipes into the playoffs one year.

Well, these are slightly different circumstances. Last time I checked, Trewick and staff hadn't gotten wasted at a local establishment and yelled at the top of their lungs that they were the best ****ing coaches in the MIAC for all to hear. That kind of creates some pressure to live up to your own lofty standards...

How long was crazy man Biebel at SMU before Trewick stepped in? I'm pretty sure he was there at least 6 years and I don't think they ever went anywhere...

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

There was at least one coach between Biebel and Trewick...Lovelace for a season (you can't ever forget a name like that!). Biebel is still in the athletic office at SMU...his last major project was steering the committee that explored the feasibility of bringing football back to SMU....  Biebel was head coach there for six years...this is Trewick's 4th season.

it's been 20+ years since SMU was in the top 4 in the MIAC, but back in poppa wonka's playing day, SMU was competitive

[miacsuperfan]

i hope trewick eventually gets that ship righted.  he seems like a pretty good guy. 
any medical update on the M*A*S*H unit out in the country?