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concordia of the north

you stay away from her, whoever you are!

i'd like to raise a glass to tommy drake on this board, by the way.

he doesn't get talked about enough amidst the madson, wittwer, linz, brink, and conboy hoop-lah.

in my opinion, he was the toughest defender I played against in the miac.  that includes espenson, strommy at bethel, and others known for their gloves.  i just love the way he plays and comports himself on the court.  he should be a widely touted figure in our miac discussions.
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PTPer35

Quote from: concordia of the north on January 31, 2008, 04:59:53 PM
you stay away from her, whoever you are!

i'd like to raise a glass to tommy drake on this board, by the way.

he doesn't get talked about enough amidst the madson, wittwer, linz, brink, and conboy hoop-lah.

in my opinion, he was the toughest defender I played against in the miac.  that includes espenson, strommy at bethel, and others known for their gloves.  i just love the way he plays and comports himself on the court.  he should be a widely touted figure in our miac discussions.

To Tommy Drake*(Glass held in air)

miacsuperfan

con of north:
i will include tommy drake in that list any time; in fact, after madson and wittwer, he would be my next draft pick.
speaking of madson and wittwer, last night at robertson  could have been the last time these high school (and i have heard grade school) teammates would be playing against each other during their collegiate careers.  when you look at what trevor has done in his four years and timmy in his three, you have to wonder what type of high school team these guys had in redwood falls.  does anybody know?   a little screen roll action?   some oop dunking?   some slip and fade?   somebody send me some game film!
as for last night's game, gustavus was remarkable in their ability to perform basketball proctology on the royals.   it was hard to believe that i was watching the same gustie team that i saw play on saturday night at gus.
they were surgical in their offensive sets maxing out the shot clock numerous times, and when they shot a brick they somehow managed to offensive rebound time and again.  you never really got the feeling after the half that bethel could win, although madson's sweet fade away shooting exhibition over the top of kane sivesand during the middle of the second half kept them in the game.   the ability of so many gustie players to step up and hit shots and to appear confident in taking them was a noticeable difference between the two teams.  they won the game with wittwer only scoring six points until the game was essentially over.  and he is their best player!    mike moberg's first half was good, but he appeared to tire in the second and didn't finish the game playing strong around the hoop.   the rest of the royal's perimeter attack after madson was non-existent.   laugen and flannery are good players----they just couldn't get it going last night against a tougher defense.  (does anybody know what is wrong with eric hugoson?)
gustavus is going to be a good test for everyone the rest of the year, but like everyone else in this league, extremely beatable on any given night.   a healthy paulson could well be the key to how far this team goes.   his presence last night was much needed, and last saturday's loss to the dawgs may have been a result of his absence for most of that game.
let me lob a question out to anybody who has seen the gusties all year:  what is the deal with doble and why does he not play more?   somebody must have a pretty good answer for this.
and let's take it easy on some of these guys haircuts, drake.   their moms may read this crap.

VOJ

Quote from: bleednavyblue_GoBU on January 31, 2008, 04:48:25 PM
I don't know about her being "turned on."  I saw the woodsman type, as well.  It looked like while the crazy guy was screaming at officials and Mike DesLauriers, those two were having charming and polite conversation, finding time to laugh together, etc.

Yeah, I saw that too!

Cord of the North...were we sitting near each other? 

That guy better watch out...he was so caught up in his rage for the officials that he didn't even see the "woodsman" stealing his girl!  However, the woodsman also better watch out because the crazy guy has no release for his anger now that he is done with badminton. 

Sidenote:  I also heard that the crazy guy is getting a good understanding surrounding the ins-and-outs of women's track & field...and can carry on quite entertaining and passionate conversations about the sport  ;D

P.S.  I am going to go out there and predict a Bethel win up at SJU this weekend!  They are due up there!!  They have come close the last couple of years, but just can't get it done!  Also, they have had enough of that darn arena (SEXton Arena) mocking their religious convictions and it is time to end this tomfoolery!  Anybody want to predict otherwise??

p.p.s It is good to be a Royal!

Yea I will take the other side of that...The J's play very well at home and now with Leiser back and two role players providing needed scoring(Issets and Stiller) they are deeper than they have ever been...

It will be a great game, not sure about the atmosphere but I think the J's know the importance of this one...given that they have a HUGE roadtrip to GAC on monday night and can have sole possession of 3rd place if they win and the tommies win at Carleton

Course the way the 3rd seed has faired in the playoffs I might wishthat on someone else....

Chica yea false identification

Quote from: miacsuperfan on January 31, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
con of north:
i will include tommy drake in that list any time; in fact, after madson and wittwer, he would be my next draft pick.
speaking of madson and wittwer, last night at robertson  could have been the last time these high school (and i have heard grade school) teammates would be playing against each other during their collegiate careers.  when you look at what trevor has done in his four years and timmy in his three, you have to wonder what type of high school team these guys had in redwood falls.  does anybody know?   a little screen roll action?   some oop dunking?   some slip and fade?   somebody send me some game film!
as for last night's game, gustavus was remarkable in their ability to perform basketball proctology on the royals.   it was hard to believe that i was watching the same gustie team that i saw play on saturday night at gus.
they were surgical in their offensive sets maxing out the shot clock numerous times, and when they shot a brick they somehow managed to offensive rebound time and again.  you never really got the feeling after the half that bethel could win, although madson's sweet fade away shooting exhibition over the top of kane sivesand during the middle of the second half kept them in the game.   the ability of so many gustie players to step up and hit shots and to appear confident in taking them was a noticeable difference between the two teams.  they won the game with wittwer only scoring six points until the game was essentially over.  and he is their best player!    mike moberg's first half was good, but he appeared to tire in the second and didn't finish the game playing strong around the hoop.   the rest of the royal's perimeter attack after madson was non-existent.   laugen and flannery are good players----they just couldn't get it going last night against a tougher defense.  (does anybody know what is wrong with eric hugoson?)
gustavus is going to be a good test for everyone the rest of the year, but like everyone else in this league, extremely beatable on any given night.   a healthy paulson could well be the key to how far this team goes.   his presence last night was much needed, and last saturday's loss to the dawgs may have been a result of his absence for most of that game.
let me lob a question out to anybody who has seen the gusties all year:  what is the deal with doble and why does he not play more?   somebody must have a pretty good answer for this.
and let's take it easy on some of these guys haircuts, drake.   their moms may read this crap.

I think the reason Doble doesn't play is because of the same reason Kaus doesn't play more.  At Gustavus, you're basically a robot in that offense and you don't get much freedom, especially if you're not one of Hanson's go-to-guys.  Watching gustavus play it always seems like if kaus--even though a good shooter-- misses a shot he gets taken out immediately, because Hanson simply wants a true point guard to run through the offense.

That situation is why I believe Kaus doesn't play more.  As far as Doble, I think it is something that relates to that, but I think it has to do a little more with forced shots. I think they both should be playing more.  I think Kaus is a much better all around player than Degrood, but I think Hanson favors Degrood, because he knows he's more of a true point and isn't going to take many--if any-- shots.
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columbianmaffia

Quote from: concordia of the north on January 31, 2008, 04:59:53 PM
you stay away from her, whoever you are!

i'd like to raise a glass to tommy drake on this board, by the way.

he doesn't get talked about enough amidst the madson, wittwer, linz, brink, and conboy hoop-lah.

in my opinion, he was the toughest defender I played against in the miac.  that includes espenson, strommy at bethel, and others known for their gloves.  i just love the way he plays and comports himself on the court.  he should be a widely touted figure in our miac discussions.

Tommy "T-Bird" Drake is a true baller
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"I may be wrong...but I doubt it" -Sir Charles Barkley-

Sparticus-dttyd

In response to doble and kaus. I believe kaus was sick last night so his minutes were down. Dlo is probably the best true point guard in the league so its hard to argue that Kaus should start over him. In the games that I have seen. I don't see him getting taken out for missing shots. I just think he is so undersized that how much he plays depends on the matchups. As for doble, his minutes have gone down due to poor defense. I think Paulson proved why he is so important because his defense is so valuable. He doesn't wow you with his offense but he gets enough baskets to keep any team honest. If doble can become more solid on the defensive end, I think you will see his minutes go back up down the stretch.

AO

Quote from: miacsuperfan on January 31, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
con of north:
i will include tommy drake in that list any time; in fact, after madson and wittwer, he would be my next draft pick.
speaking of madson and wittwer, last night at robertson  could have been the last time these high school (and i have heard grade school) teammates would be playing against each other during their collegiate careers.  when you look at what trevor has done in his four years and timmy in his three, you have to wonder what type of high school team these guys had in redwood falls.  does anybody know?   a little screen roll action?   some oop dunking?   some slip and fade?   somebody send me some game film!


Redwood Valley has been solid in Bball back to 95.  I forget the older names, but they seemed to be bigger than madson and wittwer--Aaron Busack had a solid career at Northern State after taking Rewood to state a few times as well.


big_shocker

Never worry about some Gusties getting less playing time now. Because of the way the GAC system works, much of the team is essentially a collection of interchangeable parts. Just because a Gustie doesn't play one night doesn't mean they won't be one of the stars of the game next time out. It's a definite advantage, and it's the way GAC always works their system.
(Reporter interviewing Charles Barkley after and altercation where he threw a fan out of a bar window)

Reporter: Charles, is there anything about the incident you regret?

Sir Charles: Yeah, that we weren't on a higher floor.

HarryDH

This is a little late, but just a few thoughts about the Bethel/Gac game last night
-Bethel still does not get the ball into the post enough.  There were times when Moberg wasn't working as hard for the ball as he probably could have, but there were plenty of opportunities from my vantage point that they didn't capitalize on.  Early in the game he got several touches and scored on just about all of them, and then they completely stopped trying to get it in there.  I give some credit to the good on ball pressure by the gustie guards, but there's gotta be a way.

-This was the first chance I got to see Gustavus this year and they were very impressive.  As always their offense is a well oiled machine.  Nothing flashy, but they do all the little things that help them get easy shots.  Something the Royals can't seem to do against physical teams.  Defensive intensity was good from the royals, but not quite enough to get the job done.

-As noted, the atmosphere was not real exciting for a big game.  This could have been due to the fact that Bethel is on J-Term break.  What fans that were there were more worried about complaining to the refs than getting excited about the game.

-In regards to an earlier post about Bethel's Eric Hugoson, he has a back injury right now.  Not sure on the severity, but he has missed the last 2 games. 

miacwatchmen

Quote from: concordia of the north on January 31, 2008, 04:59:53 PM
you stay away from her, whoever you are!

i'd like to raise a glass to tommy drake on this board, by the way.

he doesn't get talked about enough amidst the madson, wittwer, linz, brink, and conboy hoop-lah.

in my opinion, he was the toughest defender I played against in the miac.  that includes espenson, strommy at bethel, and others known for their gloves.  i just love the way he plays and comports himself on the court.  he should be a widely touted figure in our miac discussions.


+ K for that point COTN, Drake has had a very nice career.....all very quietly.
"By mind the world is led, by mind the world is drawn. And all men own the sovereignty of mind."

piperinsider

Quote from: AO on January 31, 2008, 07:29:50 PM
Quote from: miacsuperfan on January 31, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
con of north:
i will include tommy drake in that list any time; in fact, after madson and wittwer, he would be my next draft pick.
speaking of madson and wittwer, last night at robertson  could have been the last time these high school (and i have heard grade school) teammates would be playing against each other during their collegiate careers.  when you look at what trevor has done in his four years and timmy in his three, you have to wonder what type of high school team these guys had in redwood falls.  does anybody know?   a little screen roll action?   some oop dunking?   some slip and fade?   somebody send me some game film!


Redwood Valley has been solid in Bball back to 95.  I forget the older names, but they seemed to be bigger than madson and wittwer--Aaron Busack had a solid career at Northern State after taking Rewood to state a few times as well.



They have a kid right now, Dan Felt, who is averaging around 30 a game. He wouldn't look bad in crimson and white.  :P

big_shocker

H. DH- good point about Moberg. In the second half, it just didn't seem like he was in the game.

Also, me and my friends got there early, sat unknowingly in the fringes of the BU crowd (like I knew where I was sitting), and apparently, some of the fans told one of my compatriots that we shouldn't have been sitting in "their" section. These were the same BU fans who arrived during half time. I hope this isn't consistent of most BU fans  ;)
(Reporter interviewing Charles Barkley after and altercation where he threw a fan out of a bar window)

Reporter: Charles, is there anything about the incident you regret?

Sir Charles: Yeah, that we weren't on a higher floor.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: big_shocker on January 31, 2008, 10:12:52 AM
I keep trying to watch Sportscenter for college basketball, but it keeps getting hijacked by Super Bowl coverage featuring Stuart Scott, who I still am questioning about how he remains employed at ESPN.

There's apparently at least one suit in Bristol, CT who still chuckles at that "cool as the other side of the pillow" line.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Willy Wonka

Lots to discuss here about Gustavus and you know I'll take a shot at answering all the questions.

• Kaus is a spark off the bench. He's shooting 33% from the floor and gets no easy baskets, as evidence by his actually shooting better from distance (35%), but can still score in spurts. He's just something of a liability on defense with the constant switching due to his size, just as Hans Sviggum was — despite his almost always being in the right position. That all makes justifying more minutes fairly difficult, especially when you consider DLo is leading the league in assist-to-turnover ratio at 2.19.

• Doble is not good at defense. This is proven nearly every game, but was never more apparent than when Paulson went down and Hanson dug deep into his bench for answer for Femi — but came up empty. In fact, Doble only played 4 of the 19 free minutes during the first half when Femi dominated. This isn't a mystery.

• Redwood Valley had another sick guard who would have been a sophomore during Wittwer's senior year — a Busack that's at SJU right now. He was a stud all-state WR who has languished on the bench for the Johnnies, but I saw him make the sickest spin move I've ever seen a HSer make during his senior year at RVHS. He didn't go out for hoops at SJU, but he may have helped them.

• Skibbity — Your whole point doesn't make sense, especially the part about a graduated benchwarmer being better than DLo. Besides, if by "robots" you mean guys who set picks, cut hard and play solid position defense, I'll take GAC robots over Bethel's fun-n-gun seven days a week. Substance over style, me boy. While you're at it, why don't you ask Wittwer, AT, Espo and Bobby Johnson how much freedom they have/had in the offense. Heck, even I was never told I couldn't shoot...but that doesn't mean I wouldn't still get yelled at if I took a *bad* shot. An ill-advised 3-pointer in the Sweet 16 when up only 2 late in the second half comes to mind quickly :)

Did I miss anything? Help me out and I'll get to it tomorrow afternoon.
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