MBB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

kyballr · February 12, 2009, 09:24:41 AM

Quote from: tu-fan on February 12, 2009, 09:02:10 AM
Unfortunately, I did get to listen to parts of the game. I was outside chasing siding off of my house most of the night. Ugly game in Franklin (for the pioneers) apparently. I spoke with a good friend that went to the game this morning. He said the Pioneers couldn't guard the weave. While he said the officiating was not good - he said TU just wasn't good enough to win the game last night. As for the Verax tech, notsure what happened-hard to understand on radio. I do know he fouled out with 15 + minutes in the 2nd half. When he went to the bench....the rest was history.

TU usually has no chance without verax in the game....still think he has great shot for player of year.

aren't you glad you took the wheels off? your house would have rolled all the way to the other end of the neighborhood...

vampires lost at Blufton earlier....another loss and we slide to Friday 1st round tourney game.

GRIZ_BACKER · February 12, 2009, 06:32:05 PM

I think it was a double tech. At first the foul appeared to be on Gasser underneath. This was after the coach got t'd up. Then the next thing you know the TU folks and the coaches are all bent out of shape. Both players must have said something and the ref had had enough. I didn't see why the foul was called.

The tech on the coach was earned. Earlier in the game a blocking foul was called on FC that appeared to be a charge and went against FC. Similar foul later on Vorax (sp?) went against Transy. Consistent IMO.

kyballr · February 12, 2009, 09:39:15 PM

if verax and gasser got t'd up and verax fouled out...i think I know how TU boys got "bent out of shape".

Franklin is a good team and looked well coached in Lex. non-conference schedule for them must have been tougher than most..

dc_has_been · February 13, 2009, 02:05:08 PM

Haven't posted in a long while (wife & I just had our first child!), but I have been following the season. First of all Nester +1 to you for all the stats, that's just awesome. Second, this season has been very exciting! With Franklin, Transy, & DC, it is going to be interesting to see how the season finishes. Finally, I hope DC can finish strong & win out, plus giving Franklin their third conf. loss. With that said, what would happen with Franklin, Transy, & DC with 3 conference losses? Would Transy take it b/c of two wins over DC & DC's two wins over Franklin?

BUBeaverFan · February 13, 2009, 03:34:23 PM

Quote from: dc_has_been on February 13, 2009, 02:05:08 PM
Haven't posted in a long while (wife & I just had our first child!), but I have been following the season. First of all Nester +1 to you for all the stats, that's just awesome. Second, this season has been very exciting! With Franklin, Transy, & DC, it is going to be interesting to see how the season finishes. Finally, I hope DC can finish strong & win out, plus giving Franklin their third conf. loss. With that said, what would happen with Franklin, Transy, & DC with 3 conference losses? Would Transy take it b/c of two wins over DC & DC's two wins over Franklin?

I asked Darryl that this morning and based upon his reading of the tie-breaker criteria, that is indeed the case. A three-way tie between TU, DC, and FC would result in TU hosting. Interesting that the TU women also have a chance to host which would make for an interesting and busy weekend in Lexington, KY.

GRIZ_BACKER · February 13, 2009, 05:45:18 PM

some good old fashion wishful thinking (lol) for TU and DC. Like I said earlier this week the conference tourney started last wed for FC. MSJ wont lay down and they have nothing to lose. Hanover right now can beat anyone in the conference (and lately they practically have), then FC has to beat a DC team that may be playing for a number one or two seed and possible home court.

That said if FC brings their "A" game they should be alright. The Hanover game scares me to be honest. Right now they are on a roll and have it figured out.

kyballr · February 13, 2009, 11:02:34 PM

Quote from: dc_has_been on February 13, 2009, 02:05:08 PM
Haven't posted in a long while (wife & I just had our first child!), but I have been following the season. First of all Nester +1 to you for all the stats, that's just awesome. Second, this season has been very exciting! With Franklin, Transy, & DC, it is going to be interesting to see how the season finishes. Finally, I hope DC can finish strong & win out, plus giving Franklin their third conf. loss. With that said, what would happen with Franklin, Transy, & DC with 3 conference losses? Would Transy take it b/c of two wins over DC & DC's two wins over Franklin?

dc_has_been,
congrats on the new kid! 1st of many.......?

Darryl Nester · February 14, 2009, 07:07:48 PM

RHIT 67, Defiance 78
Franklin 91, MSJ 78
Bluffton 53, Transy 58
Manchester 71, Hanover 81

Hanover clinches the final spot in the tournament, but the seeds are still not set:

Team	Overall	Home	Away	Remaining Games
Franklin	12-2	7-0	5-2	@ HC, vs. DC
Transylvania	11-3	7-0	4-3	vs. MSJ, @ AU
Defiance	11-3	6-1	5-2	vs. BU, @ FC
Anderson	7-7	4-2	3-5	vs. MC, vs. TU
Bluffton	7-7	4-3	3-4	@ DC, vs. MSJ
Hanover	6-9	4-3	2-6	vs. FC
Manchester	4-10	2-5	2-5	@ AU, vs. RHIT
Rose-Hulman	4-11	1-7	3-4	@ MC
Mount St. Joseph	2-12	2-6	0-6	@ TU, @ BU

Team	#1	#2	#3	#4	#5	#6	Tournament?
Franklin	53.12%	25.00%	21.88%	--	--	--	Yes
Transylvania	25.00%	50.00%	25.00%	--	--	--	Yes
Defiance	21.88%	25.00%	53.12%	--	--	--	Yes
Bluffton	--	--	--	57.03%	32.81%	10.16%	Yes
Anderson	--	--	--	40.62%	48.44%	10.94%	Yes
Hanover	--	--	--	2.34%	18.75%	78.91%	Yes

dc_has_been · February 15, 2009, 04:50:40 AM

Thanks kyballr, this is the first for the me & the wife. If there will be more, well that will be TBD!

Congrats to Hanover for their strong finish to get seeded in the tourney. I'm still hoping DC wins out of course, but I don't see Transy slipping

. Regardless of what happens this has been an exciting finish to conf. action.
Darryl, keep up the great work! Your updates are faster than ESPN!

Darryl Nester · February 15, 2009, 08:17:50 AM

Now that RHIT has been eliminated from the tournament for both men and women, the 3/6 and 4/5 games have been rescheduled for Tuesday night (2/24) at the #3 and #4 schools, with the semifinals Friday and finals on Saturday night -- instead of the whole tournament running from Friday through Sunday at the #1 seed.

(For those who don't recall what Rose has to do with this ... that week is winter-term final exam week, and they aren't allowed to leave midweek. At least that was the case when this was discussed two and a half years ago.)

GRIZ_BACKER · February 15, 2009, 09:16:02 AM

You certainly are on top pf the HCAC logistics Darryl. Thanks for the continued analysis related to the seeding probability.

kyballr · February 16, 2009, 10:58:22 PM

1 week left
in tough HCAC and 1,2,3 still up for grabs (advantage Franklin)
4,5,6 to be determined.... any predicts?

Mt.SJ, Rose H and Manchester eliminated from tourney....

Feb. 18
7:30 PM   Bluffton @ Defiance
7:30 PM   Franklin @ Hanover
7:30 PM   Mount St. Joseph @ Transylvania
7:30 PM   Manchester @ Anderson

Feb. 21
3:00 PM   Mount St. Joseph @ Bluffton
3:00 PM   Rose-Hulman @ Manchester
4:00 PM   Defiance @ Franklin
4:00 PM   Transylvania @ Anderson

dc_has_been · February 17, 2009, 01:50:20 PM

Feb. 18
Defiance-DC will spank the Beavers (just fun to say

)
Franklin- I know Hanover is rolling, but compare who they've beat during their streak & who Franklin beat.
Transy- Come on!
Anderson-starts play like the team they should.

Feb. 21
Bluffton-locks up the 5th spot.
Manchester-going w/ the home team.
Defiance-DC will have to shoot the lights out again plus I like the way Sales & Pettaway have been playing.
Anderson-wishful thinking & clinches the 4th spot.

GRIZ_BACKER · February 17, 2009, 06:22:38 PM

I agree with has_been except if FC survives the tilt in Hanover Wed night I like the Grizzlies at home. FC is playing well right now and hasn't lost since since they the double loss week at Transy and DC. The FC bench is much stronger and more confident than they were a few weeks ago.

Hanover is going to be tough and FC will get all they can handle. FC wins a hard fought squeaker.

dc_has_been · February 18, 2009, 02:34:42 PM

Griz-Backer- Franklin truely is the team to beat b/c they have been rolling over teams since their last loss. 6 of their last 7 games they have won by 10+ points.
I'm still hoping DC can win tonight & come to Franklin on Saturday to get at least a first round by, but it will be very tough & I'll have to wait & see if it is even possible b/c Bluffton comes first.