MBB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

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Buzz

I've been known make these announcements too soon, BUT I think the tourney field is just about set with Anderson and Hanover's wins tonight and the combo of DC's win and Manchester's loss. So the only thing up in the air for Saturday is the 3 and 4 seeds and Transy is the No. 3 unless they lose at home to Manchester and Defiance wins at Franklin.

#1 Anderson
#2 Hanover
#3/4 Transylvania/Defiance
#5 Manchester
#6 Franklin

Buzz

All participants went 3-1 tonight in pickem, with MSJ spoiling the party with its win at Franklin. Updated standings with one day left in the regular season...

Buzz 37-11
DC Backer 36-10
DC Star 18-2
Zander 21-7
WC 9-8
HasBeen 3-2
Indy 5-4

altor

With only 1 day of regular season basketball remaining, I thought I'd post the scenarios.

Anderson has clinched the championship outright and the #1 seed.
Hanover clinches the #2 seed if they win, Defiance wins, or Transylvania loses.  They move to #3 otherwise.
Transylvania clinches #2 if they win, Hanover loses, and Defiance loses.  Otherwise, Transylvania clinches #3 if they win over Manchester.  They will be #5 with a loss.
Defiance clinches #3 if Manchester beats Transylvania.  They will be #4 otherwise.
Manchester clinches #4 with a win over Transylvania.  They will be #5 otherwise.
Franklin is locked into #6.

So, for you fans that want a DC/Hanover rematch in the semi-finals, you're looking for a Manchester win on Saturday.

Buzz

Altor - Doesn't Hanover have the #2 locked up? Even if they lose and Transy wins, they both split with Anderson and split their head to head, but Hanover swept Defiance and Transy split, so the Panthers get the tiebreaker. Defiance is locked in as the 4 - via their sweep of Manchester, so any tiebreak scenario with Hanover/Transy would end at Defiance and favor  Hanover.

Buzz

Wait....Hanover hasn't beaten Anderson have they? So if Hanover loses to Anderson, Transy would gain the No. 2 seed with a win against Manchester on Saturday. Wow, that changes everything.

altor

Exactly.

Transy wins the 2-way tie with Hanover.  They split their series, but Anderson will have beaten Hanover twice where Transy went 1-1.

But, Hanover wins the three-way tie with Transy and Defiance, since they would be 3-1 head-to-head.  Transy split both series (2-2), and Defiance at 1-3.

Hanover wins a two way tie with Defiance by virtue of the series sweep.

Defiance wins the three-way tie with Transy and Manchester with a 3-1 record, Manchester at 2-2, Transy at 1-3.

Manchester wins the two-way tie with Transy via the series sweep.

I think that covers it.

dc_has_been

It's crazy to see how this season has played out.  There are still 2-5 spot still not locked down with everyone's last game this Saturday!
"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
Will Rogers
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
Mike Ditka

Buzz

Wow, great work Altor...and once again...i made my announcements way to early! haha.

So, basically DC's game at Franklin is absolutely meaningless. If Transy wins, Defiance is the 4 and hosts Manchester Tuesday. If Transy loses, Defiance is the 3 and hosts Franklin.

altor

Quote from: Buzz on February 18, 2010, 11:56:22 AM
So, basically DC's game at Franklin is absolutely meaningless has no effect on their seed.

Fixed that for you.

I'm not really a believer that DC is even on the bubble for an at-large bid.  But, another loss to a subpar team would certainly finish them off.

Buzz

Ok, sorry but I gotta type this all out to get it to make sense in my head!

-If TU and HC win, HC is the 2, TU is the 3, DC is the 4, MC the 5
-If TU wins and HC loses, TU is the 2, HC is the 3, DC the 4, MC the 5
-If TU loses, HC is the 2, DC is the 3, MC is the 4 and TU is the 5

Is that basically the three scenarios? Or am I still leaving something out? I love this stuff.

Buzz

Quote from: altor on February 18, 2010, 12:13:05 PM
Quote from: Buzz on February 18, 2010, 11:56:22 AM
So, basically DC's game at Franklin is absolutely meaningless has no effect on their seed.

Fixed that for you.

I'm not really a believer that DC is even on the bubble for an at-large bid.  But, another loss to a subpar team would certainly finish them off.

Well right, but it is meaningless in regards to seeding for the HCAC Tournament. If DC has any shot for an at-large, it would be wiped out with a loss to Franklin.

Darryl Nester

Quote from: Buzz on February 18, 2010, 12:16:38 PM
Ok, sorry but I gotta type this all out to get it to make sense in my head!

-If TU and HC win, HC is the 2, TU is the 3, DC is the 4, MC the 5
-If TU wins and HC loses, TU is the 2, HC is the 3, DC the 4, MC the 5
-If TU loses, HC is the 2, DC is the 3, MC is the 4 and TU is the 5

Is that basically the three scenarios? Or am I still leaving something out? I love this stuff.

Nope, that covers it.

altor

Quote from: Buzz on February 18, 2010, 12:16:38 PM
-If TU wins and HC loses, TU is the 2, HC is the 3, DC the 4, MC the 5

No.
If TU wins and HC loses and DC wins:  HC is 2, TU is 3,  DC is 4, MC is 5.
If TU wins and HC loses and DC loses:  TU is 2, HC is 3, DC is 4, MC is 5.

Transy wins the 2-way tie, but Hanover wins the 3-way tie.

wc4252

The radio broadcast for all of AU's games are available on the Anderson website.  I've listened to about 5 or 6 and have always been able to get it.

Congrats to AU on the championship, hopefully they can make it through the tourney now.  I'm not confident they get in without the auto-bid.  I can't believe they are only 7th in the regional rankings.  I know they don't have a great in-region win but I don't think they get an at large with that regional ranking.

altor

Yeah, the problem with both AU and DC getting an at large bid is that they are both currently behind at least 2 other Pool C teams in the regional rankings (and those two are from the same conference).

I just don't see how either of them even get "on the board" with those rankings.