MBB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

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diehardfan

Quote from: Darryl Nester on February 19, 2007, 02:40:33 PM
April: Thanks for mentioning Lane's interview.  I had missed it, but just listened to the archived broadcast.

I don't have predictions right now, but I'll add my vote of agreement with RO_24's call to revisit the 4-team tournament decision.  I think the line between 4th and 5th place is too thin to be used as the cutoff point.  On the women's side, it happened that the top 4 teams were the only ones with winning records, but on the men's side, Hanover, MSJ, and MC will be left out in the cold with records above (or at, or just below) .500.
I think it's one of the best interviews Hoopsville has done, and I think that's largely due to how obviously personable and informed Coach Lane is. Must be a fun guy to play for.

For a league like how the HCAC is this year, a larger tournament is not a bad idea at all... it seems a little silly to leave e out and c in when e has beaten c, and e and c barely have a different record at all... The CCIW is going to an 8 team tournament next year, and I think that has a lot to do with the parity in our league as well. Makes for a scary tournament for the league's regular season champ! But, I don't think anyone winning the CCIW tournament will represent the CCIW badly in the postseason compared to anyone else, and the same goes for the HCAC. Playing those extra sudden death sorta games helps in terms of getting teams prepared for the bigger dance. And, even better, in a league where there are so many teams over .500, getting that one extra win in the conference tourney helps the top teams in terms of their QOWI. Subsequently it helps the ranking in that final secret regional ranking used to determine C bids, seeds and hosting nods!
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d3hoopsluva

Lane and his antics are entertaining.

I am in complete agreement with you guys on changing the tourney format. Why not move to 6 teams and give the top 2 byes. Seems easy enough to me.
The league is young and sure to repeat in the future.

HCAC-TU

Anyone have a link to the Brian Lane interview?

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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

d3hoopsluva

Great cover story on Transy's Nick Feagan. Its good to see kids out there still do it for the love of the game.

RO_24

Predictions???

Bluffton - Transy (Split the series - but Transy has been coming on strong, and play a great zone press - hopefully the Beavers will attack successfully)

Franklin - Defiance (Always tough to play at Franklin with the one end of the floor dark as night, I can't see Defiance winning this one, unless someone other then Pettaway gets going, Maybe Sales(sp?)

Darryl Nester

After swapping leads for the first 30 minutes or so, Transy pulled away from Bluffton to win by 12.

Meanwhile, Defiance overcame an 8-point halftime deficit to beat Franklin by 7.  The difference appears to have been at the FT line: DC went 29 for 45, for a less-than-impressive 64%, but that gave them 15 points more from the line than Franklin, who hit 14-21 (for a barely-more impressive 67%).

Transy beat DC twice during the regular season; can they pull off a third win on a neutral court?

David Collinge

Quote from: Darryl Nester on February 24, 2007, 10:34:31 AMThe difference appears to have been at the FT line: DC went 29 for 45, for a less-than-impressive 64%, but that gave them 15 points more from the line than Franklin, who hit 14-21 (for a barely-more impressive 67%).

Holy cow...sixty-six free throws? :o :o :o

That must have been one terrible game to watch.

diehardfan

Congrats to Transy for surviving the HCAC craziness this year! I got to watch a lot of the game on the free Penn-Atlantic broadcast... pretty sweet. :)
Wait, dunks are only worth two points?!?!!!? Why does anyone do them? - diehardfan
What are Parkers now supposed to chant after every NP vs WC game, "Let's go enjoy tobacco products off-campus? - Gregory Sager
We all read it, but we don't take anything you say seriously - Luke Kasten


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mattgrubb

congrats to Transy and Coach Lane on number 99 and two straight trips to the tourney, I think transy will be a tough match up in the tourney b/w their style and experience

Here it is Matt Parton, big time ball, better get some advice from your old man who looked great on the court at Bernard King's retirement ceremony.  Go Pioneers

AUStudent

haven't posted in a year but would just like to put in my 2 cents that the 4 team tourney sucks

wouldn't be that hard to have 8 and 9 play on Mon. Have your quarters on Wen. and Semis and Finals on Fri and Sat.

Just one extra game.  Stupid they went to 4 teams.

imderekpoe

Quote from: mattgrubb on February 24, 2007, 09:39:27 PM
I think transy will be a tough match up in the tourney b/w their style and experience

So what is Transy's style?  I know last year they beat Wooster primarily riding Marc Bain's hot hand, but I'm not sure from looking at their stats what their style is this year.

AUStudent

Quote from: cmhscots on February 26, 2007, 09:48:45 AM
Quote from: mattgrubb on February 24, 2007, 09:39:27 PM
I think transy will be a tough match up in the tourney b/w their style and experience

So what is Transy's style?  I know last year they beat Wooster primarily riding Marc Bain's hot hand, but I'm not sure from looking at their stats what their style is this year.

like the three about like usaul

Darryl Nester

Quote from: AUStudent on February 25, 2007, 11:32:27 PM
wouldn't be that hard to have 8 and 9 play on Mon. Have your quarters on Wen. and Semis and Finals on Fri and Sat.
Just one extra game.  Stupid they went to 4 teams.
I think there would be problems with having a play-in Monday night for the 8/9 teams; that would mean that players from one of those teams could potentially miss three days of classes that week (Monday/Wednesday/Friday).  As a professor, I would not be happy to have a student-athlete tell me that he might be missing an entire week of my MWF afternoon class because of the tournament.  I know that our athletic department has a policy limiting the number of games during the week, and I suspect others do, too.

One motivation for going to 4 teams was to avoid having a quarterfinal game on Tuesday (as we have done in the past).  As I understand it, this issue arose (at least in part) because Rose-Hulman's academic calendar has them taking exams during tournament week, and they did not want their students to compete during that time.

Mind you, I still support expanding the tournament, but including the #9 team might not be feasible.

Quote from: cmhscots on February 26, 2007, 09:48:45 AM
So what is Transy's style?  I know last year they beat Wooster primarily riding Marc Bain's hot hand, but I'm not sure from looking at their stats what their style is this year.
I've only seen them play once (and listened to them on the radio twice), but their top 4 scorers (Feagan, Verax, Searle, Cash) all hit 40% to 50% from 3-point range; as a team, they hit right around 40%.  They are very good at moving the ball around and finding an open shot.  Feagan, Searle, and Verax are especially troublesome because at 6-7, 6-6, and 6-5, you have to guard them inside and outside.

AUStudent

Quote from: Darryl Nester on February 26, 2007, 02:35:36 PM
Quote from: AUStudent on February 25, 2007, 11:32:27 PM
wouldn't be that hard to have 8 and 9 play on Mon. Have your quarters on Wen. and Semis and Finals on Fri and Sat.
Just one extra game.  Stupid they went to 4 teams.
I think there would be problems with having a play-in Monday night for the 8/9 teams; that would mean that players from one of those teams could potentially miss three days of classes that week (Monday/Wednesday/Friday).  As a professor, I would not be happy to have a student-athlete tell me that he might be missing an entire week of my MWF afternoon class because of the tournament.  I know that our athletic department has a policy limiting the number of games during the week, and I suspect others do, too.

One motivation for going to 4 teams was to avoid having a quarterfinal game on Tuesday (as we have done in the past).  As I understand it, this issue arose (at least in part) because Rose-Hulman's academic calendar has them taking exams during tournament week, and they did not want their students to compete during that time.

Mind you, I still support expanding the tournament, but including the #9 team might not be feasible.


I wouldn't be against leaving the #9 team out and just going with 8 like normal.  This year unless you had a class at 3 on Monday you wouldn't have missed class just going to Rose.  I see your point though if it was AU @ Transy at say 8 p.m. you still have to leave by no later than 3.