MBB: MAC Freedom League

[BJ - DSU SID]

Updated Matrix...cause I know the chairman is waiting for it.

Enjoy the early spring weather rolling in this week.

http://athletics.desales.edu/custompages/mbball/2008-09/mHoopsMatrix.pdf

One note...I kind of think Manhattanville clinched a playoff spot along with DeSales, but there are so many possible scenarios still alive, that I just thought it better to be safe and be sure they clinch before I place that coveted "X" next to their name.

[chairman]

Mid Range-- Help me. I did, and all I got was an opportunity to buy an 8x10 of a guy wearing a Manhattanville jersey for $22.50. Am I using the wrong search engine?
Your first post is really understated. I kind of like it. It's like a Mondrian. It's got simple lines, clean colors, and no one knows what it means. Welcome to the board. I'm thinking you are probably a Manhattanville fan, which is really cool. Maybe you can share a little more about the game today. I think everyone knows Manhattanville is tough to beat in Purchase, but I don't think anyone saw that coming. Del Val was the darling of the board, and that didn't look close.

BJ- Thanks for the update. I was going through scenarios trying to figure out a way that Eastern is out-- we sat still on the NE Extension for two and a half hours on the way back tonight-- and I can't figure out how it could happen, but I agree with you that as long as there is the potential for a four way tie, the Eagles cannot rest with eight wins.

Monday night is a huge non-conference game for Eastern at Cabrini. The two neighboring schools are no longer conference rivals, so they will battle in a single game every year for a perpetual trophy and Eagle Road bragging rights. Cabrini is 15-5.

Good Night all.

[mid-range j]

chairman -- just didn't want a kid who is probably an all conference canidate let alone rookie of the year canidate to go unnoticed..Trevoy Pointer should be mentioned when there is rookie of the year chatter..thats all! 

mville played well yesterday..they jumped out quick against the aggies and never looked back...kennedy IS a tough place to play, wouldnt want to play a playoff game there if i was an opposing team!

[chizwiz]

Trevoy Pointer.  Look it up.

Mid-Range,

I haven't had the opportunity to see Trevoy.  Just from looking at his stats, it seems like he can score, gets quality minutes and pays attention to the boards.  Although I wonder about his Asst/TO ratio, I think there are some other on the list I put up for ROY that have similar problems, which is more common for young college players.  What's up with his 3pt shooting?  6 of 30!  Just off this year or maybe taking bad shots?

[lefty2]

MRJ,

It doesn't make sense to campaign for all-conference here.  I don't know of any posters who get a vote.  Maybe a few lurkers.

p.s.  You're not Trevoy, are you?

Chairman,

It looks like Mr. Wiz has topped you in the karma (or lack thereof) department.

[chairman]

Mid-Range- No troubles about touting your guy. It won't get him any awards, but the question was asked, and you just answered without any context at all. It looks like pointer is off to a good start to his college career. I'm sure that he will get some consideration for ROY. It should be an interesting process. Eastern will have to pick one of their two to nominate. Tucker and Soaries have both had big games, but I think Tucker has been a little more consistent.  Soaries had a great week this week.The final three league games should go a ways in setting some things straight.

Would love to hear an observers view of the Del Val M'ville game from Saturday.

The kinder-gentler poster in me will not get involved in discussions about karma points.

Battle of Eagle Road on Monday night. Should be good.

[naismith]

Hello everyone.  I've enjoyed reading the Freedom forum pages.

I'm interested in some more discussion on ROY's in the conference.  Here are some guys I think should get some attention:
FDU - Katz
DelVal - Mayo, Williams
Kings - Stackhouse
EU - Tucker, Soaries

And, I think Tucker leads this list with probably nobody coming close.

Frosh Foursome:

As the season winds down, the Freedom is full of frosh contributors.
While many are a few strokes behind, the last foursome would appear to be: (no order)
Katz FDU
Williams DELVAL
Soaries EASTERN
Tucker  EASTERN

Having seen all conference teams at least once, it is hard to distinguish between these four.

Here's why:

Katz plays with intensity. Plays strong and hard. (reminds me a bit of Scranton's---remember them  lol----Randy Arnold)
Has a nice handle
Shooting 49% from the field as a guard.  Also, 46% from 3 pt line (46-99)
Add in 19 steals.,,,,,

Mike Williams may the most overlooked Aggie. Playing with a career assist leader Seipt and the James Jones scoring machine (he's so good they already named the gym after him!!), Williams has emerged as a key contributor.    As an undersized big man, Williams 132 caroms leads the team. Add in 24 steals and 22 blocks and MW is a game changer.


Tucker of Eastern is a tall lean high % shooter. He seldom steps outside and drives mostly to his right. Has done a nice job rebounding but doesn't record a whole lot of blocks.

Soaries, with similiar minutes to Tucker,  has twice the steals, steps outside and drains 3 pointers at a 40% plus.
A better handle and nice assist to turnover #'s.
Having only seen Eastern play once, it appears Soaries has become a bit more of a go to player than Tucker.

At this point (still games to play )---I do think ROY will come from this foursome.

Naismith

[ColonelJohn4Life]

http://athletics.desales.edu/custompages/mbball/2008-09/mHoopsMatrix.pdf

One note...I kind of think Manhattanville clinched a playoff spot along with DeSales, but there are so many possible scenarios still alive, that I just thought it better to be safe and be sure they clinch before I place that coveted "X" next to their name.

C'mon, place the coveted "X"!
They're 4 up with 4 to play on 6th, holding the tie-breaker (head to head, 2-0).
They're 3.5 up with 3.5 to play on 5th, holding the tie-breaker (head-to-head, 2-0).
Haven't they clinched at least 4th?

Don't look now, but if the season ended today, Wilkes would host a playoff game.  Yeah, it's the 4-5 (play-in??) game.  But it'd be the first home playoff game for the Colonels since... March 2001.

[NEPAFAN]

How the mighty have fallen! 

[BJ - DSU SID]

Sorry CJ...I learned a long time ago to not place the "X" until its super duper clear.  I once told my WSoccer coach they were eliminated from the playoffs with 3 to play...two games later a top seed got upset by a lower seed, we benefited and got into the mix needing a win on the final Saturday to get in.  We went from mathematically eliminated to needing only a win to get in.  I felt like a moron.

So no more "X's" till I am 100% sure.  There is an actual scenario where five teams could still be tied for the 2-5 spots.  Obviously some ginormous upsets would have to happen for this to happen.  But in this conference I don't really consider any team that much better than another.

Heck we play King's on Wednesday and they are in last place right now...but I know we are absolutely going to have our hands completely full to win that game.  King's is too well coached and plays too hard to think your gonna just count that one as a W...we are going to have to come to play tomorrow night.

[lefty2]

Heck we play King's on Wednesday and they are in last place right now...but I know we are absolutely going to have our hands completely full to win that game.  King's is too well coached and plays too hard to think your gonna just count that one as a W...we are going to have to come to play tomorrow night.

B.J.,

You sound like a coach.

[BJ - DSU SID]

Aren't we all coaches in our own mind.

[kate]

Well put, BJ  , & Nepafan, you are a one-man force in keeping D3 rivalry alive & well - you Landmine guys are still close enough to be in the NCAA's with All of the rest of us!   

[NEPAFAN]

Well put, BJ  , & Nepafan, you are a one-man force in keeping D3 rivalry alive & well - you Landmine guys are still close enough to be in the NCAA's with All of the rest of us!   

Someone has to keep it up!!!.........

[chizwiz]

Naismith,

Katz is pretty darn good and I enjoyed watching him play.  He does have an excellent stroke from the arc and a great shooting percentage from there and the field.

You pointed out his steals at 19.  Tucker has 34 and almost half as many TO's than Katz's 75.  Tucker also does something that is way too important to overlook - he shoot FT's at 77%, as compared to Katz's 63%.  While he doesn't shoot the three much, that is probably due more to the fact that it's not where he is needed, as we usually have 2-3 others who can who are on the court with him.  I should note that he does shoot it well, but 3-5 is not enough to prove it.  I do challenge you to find a rookie in the conference who has a better shot from 12-15 feet than Tucker; I would put him in there with anybody in the conference from that distance.  I don't think you can say that he has a low block count.  Also, if you get the chance to watch him play some more, he'll show you that he is just as much a go-to guy as Soaries.

And don't think I don't like Soaries.  I'm still undecided as to which of these two I would pick from the EU team.  You did state some big stats for him.

Again, don't want to downplay Katz.  He is a great player.  If he watches his turnovers next year and works on his FT's, he will be a top player in the conference.