MBB: MAC Freedom League

[cold_case]

Pat "Jerry" Coleman
Is there a rule in the book that says you must win by a certain amount of points?
Come on, man.

[cold_case]

FYI
When Scranton won the national title in 1983, they beat Moravian by 16, Widener by five in 3 OT's and Potsdam State by 1, all at home, before heading to Calvin College for the Final Four. Should we take the championship away Scranton because they didn't steamroll every opponent? Of course not.

[Section J Guy]

This is WAY ancient history.  There is no CUA bias on the poll.  There is no CUA bias on the site.  You guys who say this are complete and utter fools. 

That's it!  I've had it.  I am going to get a drink!

C

Looks like we know who voted for Catholic.

[cold_case]

I'll have a drink on that one!

[r.w. mcnickels]

Yeah, winning an overtime game and a nailbiter championship definitely justifies hosting it.

Winning a neutral-site sectional is a far better indicator of having deserved to host it. Wilkes didn't win either game in the sectional by more than the homecourt advantage margin.

I'd agree.  Two double-OT games.  Best night of basketball I've ever seen.  I think any of those four teams in '98 could have gone to Salem if they all played at a neutral court.  So, there's a big difference between the two sectionals Colonel John mentions.  Not to take anything away from what Wilkes did in '98, but F&M didn't leave anyone guessing who deserved that sectional in 1996.  You can't compare the two.

[naismith]

Took in the game Wed. night and have just a few observations:

re Scranton:

Randy Arnold has certainly established himself in the upper tier of Freedom point guards. Handled the ball, created shots for teammates, made some very difficult
shots himself, pressured the ball and pilfered a few passes.

The big Aussie played soft as did all the other rather tall Royals. He's only a frosh so maybe later....
Alfier and Kirk can shoot but don't really create.
A few of those injured did play but they need Cannon's 'O' ----
This team only goes as far as RA can carry them imho.

re Wilkes---

First, Matt Gould---the things he brings cannot be measured or found in the box score. His intensity and attitude set the tone defensively. He takes on the best guards on the opposing team and saps their strength.  Each time Coach JR subbed for Matt, Royal guards scored and Matt came right back in the game.
A genuine stopper!! A pleasure to watch.

The game was won 'inside' for a change. Colonels attacked the paint in the 2nd half and scored many inside baskets...(I recall Constantime with 2 layups, Gould one, Shovlin a few, Cardamone got one and Walters had quite a few.)

Constantine had a hard time getting an open look beyond the arc. Kable didn't handle Arnold's quickness and his shooting rhythm was off. Shovlin scored early and often. He penetrated well, made some nice dishes. Not his best shooting night but scored a 'quiet' 24.  Walters dominated the inside with 11 boards and few blocks and 19 markers. Maybe just maybe he will get an attitude offensively and stop taking those foolish reach in fouls. (especially after a defensive rebound has been secured).

Wilkes clearly the better team Wed. but still lacks the killer instinct or the ability to open up and put an opponent away.

I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge Coach JR's golfing ability. Last nite he "Teed" it up again.  Why and for what----only the ref knows. I was near the bench and he said nada. During a timeout, he simply took his jacket off and the short zebra teed him up? Par for the course I guess...lol.

Anyone have a clue???

Naismith



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[ColonelJohn4Life]

Naismith, I concur.  I have all the respect in the world for Randy Arnold, something I couldn't say before Wednesday's game.  When / if Scranton gets healthy, and Arnold gets some help from a big man, beware.

Wilkes certainly seemed to be the better squad.  That said, they left some points on the table.  This could have been a bigger win, but eh, don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining.  Any game that involves Matt Gould smacking the floor a la Steve Wojciehowski at Cameron Indoor - great to see.

Anytime I get the chance to relive that Sweet 16 night in 1998, it's a good day.  After seeing Catholic take Hunter to 2 OT's before admirably bowing out, I figured the Rowan v. Wilkes game would be a letdown.  And the Rowan game, also 2 OT, was better.  Unbelievable.

I mean, seriously, you get through a tough Australia winter, and it's time to go back to school, and it's winter again!  Two winters!!

[Coach C]

Actually children, I voted CUA #25 in one poll this year.  The next week the Cardianls went out and lost at Susqy and that was that.

I just think that talking about stuff from 1996 in the same set of posts as a poll from 9 FRIGGING YEARS LATER is completely gonzo nuts!!!!!!!!!

C

[cold_case]

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[saratoga]

Getting back to current basketball...I would disagree somewhat with your assesment of Tom Bicknell(The Aussie) playing "soft" Mr. Naismith. I would agree it was not one of his more dominate games, but I would attribute that to three reasons...Cannon, FitzPatrick & Clabby...and not the Law Firm. With them out, Wilkes was able to double-down on him with Cardimone & Walters all night and not pay any attention to the wings. Let's face it, Cannon & FitzPatrick live out there & Clabby is a slasher so Wilkes could never had just taken the game plan they used had they played. When they are hitting from the wings, Arnold hitting from all over, and Clabby driving   it certainly opens things up for Tom & Mike(the other big also out) underneath. The Royals will be fine once all get better & get a few games under their belts & get their legs back. I still see them as the best team when healthy so regardless where they end up during the regular season...I think in a 2 game series they can win it. The big loss right now is Mike McGowan for the season...a 2 year starter & top 3pt. shooter...that hurts but it opens a door for Ryan Kirk. When all is said & done I think Scranton, Wilkes & Kings will be there, the $64,000 question is who will team #4 be, Desales or Lyco.? FDU is FDU, tough at home less than average on the road, ditto for Drew & DVC. And yes, Randy Arnold played a magnificent all-around game. He was pressured from the tip, dished out his own D, hit 3's., drove the lane & did his best to put what was essentially his practice squad 2 weeks ago in position to win this game in the last 2 minutes. An A+ effort from all the kids & coaches at Scranton...they'll need the same effort tomorrow on the road in the Garden State.

[Pat Coleman]

FYI
When Scranton won the national title in 1983, they beat Moravian by 16, Widener by five in 3 OT's and Potsdam State by 1, all at home, before heading to Calvin College for the Final Four. Should we take the championship away Scranton because they didn't steamroll every opponent? Of course not.

I don't see how your oranges compare to my apples. Talk about jumping to an illogical extreme!

[cold_case]

Pat "Morita" Coleman, I sent you an important e-mail. I'd appreciate a response.

[Pat Coleman]

Head_case:

I see no e-mail from GoByeByeMingy@aol.com.

[cold_case]

Guru,
D-III cries out for publicity. Keep doing your best to destroy it. E-mail is on its way.

[Pat Coleman]

Professional journalists get professional responses. Cranks on message boards get crank responses.

Think about how you present yourself when you e-mail someone. I know you're a sportswriter but even sportswriters should manage some profssionalism. Please don't live down to the public's perception of us. Thanks.