MBB: MAC Freedom League

[jmcozenlaw]

Hoopster, the MAC Commonwealth connection might be Messiah's AC... he has been in the running for a few jobs this year and in years past.

CC - Did you get any word on when they would like to fill the job? It's going to be a rough Year One for anybody given the players they lost (especially Moran and Sly) and the fact that they will have zero freshmen or transfers coming in. Whoever gets the job needs to be able to recruit like crazy. Casey is a very good coach but an even better recruiter.

Gordon Mann, have you heard anything about a timetable to fill the role? He's going to have one heck of a time with putting together a staff unless he retains a few coaches from the previous staff. None of them appear on the Millersville website as assistant coaches.

I don't think the dark horse is a DVU assistant. I've heard through the rumor mongers that it could be a stunning name. Former bigtime coach somewhere who is on the backend of his career, not looking to move up the ladder, loves the area (Doylestown/Bucks County is a wonderful area) and has plenty of money already. I have no clue whatsoever. He may wind up on the staff if it's true and he doesn't get the job. We'll see.

From what I have heard the coach is selected and has accepted. Others have been notified. I have two names so one is not right. Also the incoming class is still all on board and going to DVU. Coaching changes do not result in empty recruiting classes at the D3 level. Also there were no big names involved. It was who was mentioned above, another D3 HC and the assistant was indeed Mark Seidenburg (Spelling) the Messiah assistant coach who is from Phiily and played at Cardinal Dougherty HS in the Philly Catholic League (see bio and google search name+philadephia basketball).

Is it 10/15?!!

I don't know about an announcement.

Will be interested to hear who it is. I heard that the dark horses were a former D1 coach currently coaching locally at the high school level and a former D1 assistant from the area who played at Penn State. I guess that was just the rumor mill humming. One of the former DVU assistants told a mutual contact (before Coach Casey resigned) that they had three studs with size coming in the Fall, including two transfers (one from D2 West Chester). The same former assistant said a few weeks ago that all three backed out. Maybe he doesn't know since he might not be involved on the new coaches staff and may not be aware of what the A.D. was able to do with the recruits. You sound like you have some great "inside scoop" so if in fact these three players are absolutely still coming, along with another player or two and the core five/six underclassmen (if they all return), all may not be lost for the 2016-17 season. Any coach is going to have a pretty high bar given Casey's record at DVU.

10/15 can't get here fast enough...............although I'm jonesing for the start of college and pro football prior to that!!

[CCHoopster]

Hoopster, the MAC Commonwealth connection might be Messiah's AC... he has been in the running for a few jobs this year and in years past.

CC - Did you get any word on when they would like to fill the job? It's going to be a rough Year One for anybody given the players they lost (especially Moran and Sly) and the fact that they will have zero freshmen or transfers coming in. Whoever gets the job needs to be able to recruit like crazy. Casey is a very good coach but an even better recruiter.

Gordon Mann, have you heard anything about a timetable to fill the role? He's going to have one heck of a time with putting together a staff unless he retains a few coaches from the previous staff. None of them appear on the Millersville website as assistant coaches.

I don't think the dark horse is a DVU assistant. I've heard through the rumor mongers that it could be a stunning name. Former bigtime coach somewhere who is on the backend of his career, not looking to move up the ladder, loves the area (Doylestown/Bucks County is a wonderful area) and has plenty of money already. I have no clue whatsoever. He may wind up on the staff if it's true and he doesn't get the job. We'll see.

From what I have heard the coach is selected and has accepted. Others have been notified. I have two names so one is not right. Also the incoming class is still all on board and going to DVU. Coaching changes do not result in empty recruiting classes at the D3 level. Also there were no big names involved. It was who was mentioned above, another D3 HC and the assistant was indeed Mark Seidenburg (Spelling) the Messiah assistant coach who is from Phiily and played at Cardinal Dougherty HS in the Philly Catholic League (see bio and google search name+philadephia basketball).

Is it 10/15?!!

I don't know about an announcement.

Will be interested to hear who it is. I heard that the dark horses were a former D1 coach currently coaching locally at the high school level and a former D1 assistant from the area who played at Penn State. I guess that was just the rumor mill humming. One of the former DVU assistants told a mutual contact (before Coach Casey resigned) that they had three studs with size coming in the Fall, including two transfers (one from D2 West Chester). The same former assistant said a few weeks ago that all three backed out. Maybe he doesn't know since he might not be involved on the new coaches staff and may not be aware of what the A.D. was able to do with the recruits. You sound like you have some great "inside scoop" so if in fact these three players are absolutely still coming, along with another player or two and the core five/six underclassmen (if they all return), all may not be lost for the 2016-17 season. Any coach is going to have a pretty high bar given Casey's record at DVU.

10/15 can't get here fast enough...............although I'm jonesing for the start of college and pro football prior to that!!

To clarify I was only referring to high school recruits. I am not in any position to provide insight with regards to transfers. 3 with a possibility of 5 incoming (CSAC coach knew for sure of three recruits still going to Del Val but he said he thought Casey told him 5)  freshman still coming. I did just check the Del Val website and nothing posted anywhere. My apologies if I sound matter of fact without knowing you included transfers, my apologies!!

I think for a first year coach, if they get a home playoff game, it's a huge success. I think they are a playoff team either way.

[kate]

A home playoff game, great; a home playoff game against any Landmark team, priceless  . We had over a thousand people in James Work on February 27th for our playoff game with Wilkes and the atmosphere was electric!  Would so love to do it again!

[jmcozenlaw]

Hoopster, the MAC Commonwealth connection might be Messiah's AC... he has been in the running for a few jobs this year and in years past.

CC - Did you get any word on when they would like to fill the job? It's going to be a rough Year One for anybody given the players they lost (especially Moran and Sly) and the fact that they will have zero freshmen or transfers coming in. Whoever gets the job needs to be able to recruit like crazy. Casey is a very good coach but an even better recruiter.

Gordon Mann, have you heard anything about a timetable to fill the role? He's going to have one heck of a time with putting together a staff unless he retains a few coaches from the previous staff. None of them appear on the Millersville website as assistant coaches.

I don't think the dark horse is a DVU assistant. I've heard through the rumor mongers that it could be a stunning name. Former bigtime coach somewhere who is on the backend of his career, not looking to move up the ladder, loves the area (Doylestown/Bucks County is a wonderful area) and has plenty of money already. I have no clue whatsoever. He may wind up on the staff if it's true and he doesn't get the job. We'll see.

From what I have heard the coach is selected and has accepted. Others have been notified. I have two names so one is not right. Also the incoming class is still all on board and going to DVU. Coaching changes do not result in empty recruiting classes at the D3 level. Also there were no big names involved. It was who was mentioned above, another D3 HC and the assistant was indeed Mark Seidenburg (Spelling) the Messiah assistant coach who is from Phiily and played at Cardinal Dougherty HS in the Philly Catholic League (see bio and google search name+philadephia basketball).

Is it 10/15?!!

I don't know about an announcement.

Will be interested to hear who it is. I heard that the dark horses were a former D1 coach currently coaching locally at the high school level and a former D1 assistant from the area who played at Penn State. I guess that was just the rumor mill humming. One of the former DVU assistants told a mutual contact (before Coach Casey resigned) that they had three studs with size coming in the Fall, including two transfers (one from D2 West Chester). The same former assistant said a few weeks ago that all three backed out. Maybe he doesn't know since he might not be involved on the new coaches staff and may not be aware of what the A.D. was able to do with the recruits. You sound like you have some great "inside scoop" so if in fact these three players are absolutely still coming, along with another player or two and the core five/six underclassmen (if they all return), all may not be lost for the 2016-17 season. Any coach is going to have a pretty high bar given Casey's record at DVU.

10/15 can't get here fast enough...............although I'm jonesing for the start of college and pro football prior to that!!

To clarify I was only referring to high school recruits. I am not in any position to provide insight with regards to transfers. 3 with a possibility of 5 incoming (CSAC coach knew for sure of three recruits still going to Del Val but he said he thought Casey told him 5)  freshman still coming. I did just check the Del Val website and nothing posted anywhere. My apologies if I sound matter of fact without knowing you included transfers, my apologies!!

I think for a first year coach, if they get a home playoff game, it's a huge success. I think they are a playoff team either way.

No problem CC! I'd agree about the home playoff game if the three "studs" (whatever that means ) including two transfers were coming along with the 3-5 freshman (only a couple of the freshmen brought in last year turned out to be players so I'll hold my breath about these 3-5) and the returning "Core 5", but Casey knew how much he was losing in Moran, Sly and Brockington and went the size & transfer route as there wasn't enough with what was coming back and with the freshmen coming in.

A home playoff game means a one or two seed. If this new coach can get a home playoff game, it would be a minor miracle. DeSales loses one player (Deal) out of their top ten, has a killer recruiting class and won the regular season. Misericordia was the two seed and literally loses nobody. Wilkes was the four seed and loses just Stravinski........and their best players (other than Stravinski) last year were three freshmen and a soph. Eastern loses nobody and they were right on the cusp. Manhattanville was also on the cusp and only loses one player of importance. Even King's and FDU were as young as heck.

I personally think that if this new coach goes around .500, it would have to be considered a success and he's going to have to be a great recruiter from the jump as DVU's two best players in 2016-2017 will be seniors. With the high bar that Casey set, I don't think that any coach who feels as if he is not a great recruiter, with an excellent network of contacts (for the HS Seniors and possible transfers) would even show interest in a DVU. It's easier to fix a broken program (like Casey did) then it is to keep one at or near the top. I think the new coach will need to be a minor miracle worker. Just my opinion (and kind of what I've heard, at least for the next year or two).

[CCHoopster]

Hoopster, the MAC Commonwealth connection might be Messiah's AC... he has been in the running for a few jobs this year and in years past.

CC - Did you get any word on when they would like to fill the job? It's going to be a rough Year One for anybody given the players they lost (especially Moran and Sly) and the fact that they will have zero freshmen or transfers coming in. Whoever gets the job needs to be able to recruit like crazy. Casey is a very good coach but an even better recruiter.

Gordon Mann, have you heard anything about a timetable to fill the role? He's going to have one heck of a time with putting together a staff unless he retains a few coaches from the previous staff. None of them appear on the Millersville website as assistant coaches.

I don't think the dark horse is a DVU assistant. I've heard through the rumor mongers that it could be a stunning name. Former bigtime coach somewhere who is on the backend of his career, not looking to move up the ladder, loves the area (Doylestown/Bucks County is a wonderful area) and has plenty of money already. I have no clue whatsoever. He may wind up on the staff if it's true and he doesn't get the job. We'll see.

From what I have heard the coach is selected and has accepted. Others have been notified. I have two names so one is not right. Also the incoming class is still all on board and going to DVU. Coaching changes do not result in empty recruiting classes at the D3 level. Also there were no big names involved. It was who was mentioned above, another D3 HC and the assistant was indeed Mark Seidenburg (Spelling) the Messiah assistant coach who is from Phiily and played at Cardinal Dougherty HS in the Philly Catholic League (see bio and google search name+philadephia basketball).

Is it 10/15?!!

I don't know about an announcement.

Will be interested to hear who it is. I heard that the dark horses were a former D1 coach currently coaching locally at the high school level and a former D1 assistant from the area who played at Penn State. I guess that was just the rumor mill humming. One of the former DVU assistants told a mutual contact (before Coach Casey resigned) that they had three studs with size coming in the Fall, including two transfers (one from D2 West Chester). The same former assistant said a few weeks ago that all three backed out. Maybe he doesn't know since he might not be involved on the new coaches staff and may not be aware of what the A.D. was able to do with the recruits. You sound like you have some great "inside scoop" so if in fact these three players are absolutely still coming, along with another player or two and the core five/six underclassmen (if they all return), all may not be lost for the 2016-17 season. Any coach is going to have a pretty high bar given Casey's record at DVU.

10/15 can't get here fast enough...............although I'm jonesing for the start of college and pro football prior to that!!

To clarify I was only referring to high school recruits. I am not in any position to provide insight with regards to transfers. 3 with a possibility of 5 incoming (CSAC coach knew for sure of three recruits still going to Del Val but he said he thought Casey told him 5)  freshman still coming. I did just check the Del Val website and nothing posted anywhere. My apologies if I sound matter of fact without knowing you included transfers, my apologies!!

I think for a first year coach, if they get a home playoff game, it's a huge success. I think they are a playoff team either way.

No problem CC! I'd agree about the home playoff game if the three "studs" (whatever that means ) including two transfers were coming along with the 3-5 freshman (only a couple of the freshmen brought in last year turned out to be players so I'll hold my breath about these 3-5) and the returning "Core 5", but Casey knew how much he was losing in Moran, Sly and Brockington and went the size & transfer route as there wasn't enough with what was coming back and with the freshmen coming in.

A home playoff game means a one or two seed. If this new coach can get a home playoff game, it would be a minor miracle. DeSales loses one player (Deal) out of their top ten, has a killer recruiting class and won the regular season. Misericordia was the two seed and literally loses nobody. Wilkes was the four seed and loses just Stravinski........and their best players (other than Stravinski) last year were three freshmen and a soph. Eastern loses nobody and they were right on the cusp. Manhattanville was also on the cusp and only loses one player of importance. Even King's and FDU were as young as heck.

I personally think that if this new coach goes around .500, it would have to be considered a success and he's going to have to be a great recruiter from the jump as DVU's two best players in 2016-2017 will be seniors. With the high bar that Casey set, I don't think that any coach who feels as if he is not a great recruiter, with an excellent network of contacts (for the HS Seniors and possible transfers) would even show interest in a DVU. It's easier to fix a broken program (like Casey did) then it is to keep one at or near the top. I think the new coach will need to be a minor miracle worker. Just my opinion (and kind of what I've heard, at least for the next year or two).

Do we know who the coach is?

[jmcozenlaw]

Hoopster, the MAC Commonwealth connection might be Messiah's AC... he has been in the running for a few jobs this year and in years past.

CC - Did you get any word on when they would like to fill the job? It's going to be a rough Year One for anybody given the players they lost (especially Moran and Sly) and the fact that they will have zero freshmen or transfers coming in. Whoever gets the job needs to be able to recruit like crazy. Casey is a very good coach but an even better recruiter.

Gordon Mann, have you heard anything about a timetable to fill the role? He's going to have one heck of a time with putting together a staff unless he retains a few coaches from the previous staff. None of them appear on the Millersville website as assistant coaches.

I don't think the dark horse is a DVU assistant. I've heard through the rumor mongers that it could be a stunning name. Former bigtime coach somewhere who is on the backend of his career, not looking to move up the ladder, loves the area (Doylestown/Bucks County is a wonderful area) and has plenty of money already. I have no clue whatsoever. He may wind up on the staff if it's true and he doesn't get the job. We'll see.

From what I have heard the coach is selected and has accepted. Others have been notified. I have two names so one is not right. Also the incoming class is still all on board and going to DVU. Coaching changes do not result in empty recruiting classes at the D3 level. Also there were no big names involved. It was who was mentioned above, another D3 HC and the assistant was indeed Mark Seidenburg (Spelling) the Messiah assistant coach who is from Phiily and played at Cardinal Dougherty HS in the Philly Catholic League (see bio and google search name+philadephia basketball).

Is it 10/15?!!

I don't know about an announcement.

Will be interested to hear who it is. I heard that the dark horses were a former D1 coach currently coaching locally at the high school level and a former D1 assistant from the area who played at Penn State. I guess that was just the rumor mill humming. One of the former DVU assistants told a mutual contact (before Coach Casey resigned) that they had three studs with size coming in the Fall, including two transfers (one from D2 West Chester). The same former assistant said a few weeks ago that all three backed out. Maybe he doesn't know since he might not be involved on the new coaches staff and may not be aware of what the A.D. was able to do with the recruits. You sound like you have some great "inside scoop" so if in fact these three players are absolutely still coming, along with another player or two and the core five/six underclassmen (if they all return), all may not be lost for the 2016-17 season. Any coach is going to have a pretty high bar given Casey's record at DVU.

10/15 can't get here fast enough...............although I'm jonesing for the start of college and pro football prior to that!!

To clarify I was only referring to high school recruits. I am not in any position to provide insight with regards to transfers. 3 with a possibility of 5 incoming (CSAC coach knew for sure of three recruits still going to Del Val but he said he thought Casey told him 5)  freshman still coming. I did just check the Del Val website and nothing posted anywhere. My apologies if I sound matter of fact without knowing you included transfers, my apologies!!

I think for a first year coach, if they get a home playoff game, it's a huge success. I think they are a playoff team either way.

No problem CC! I'd agree about the home playoff game if the three "studs" (whatever that means ) including two transfers were coming along with the 3-5 freshman (only a couple of the freshmen brought in last year turned out to be players so I'll hold my breath about these 3-5) and the returning "Core 5", but Casey knew how much he was losing in Moran, Sly and Brockington and went the size & transfer route as there wasn't enough with what was coming back and with the freshmen coming in.

A home playoff game means a one or two seed. If this new coach can get a home playoff game, it would be a minor miracle. DeSales loses one player (Deal) out of their top ten, has a killer recruiting class and won the regular season. Misericordia was the two seed and literally loses nobody. Wilkes was the four seed and loses just Stravinski........and their best players (other than Stravinski) last year were three freshmen and a soph. Eastern loses nobody and they were right on the cusp. Manhattanville was also on the cusp and only loses one player of importance. Even King's and FDU were as young as heck.

I personally think that if this new coach goes around .500, it would have to be considered a success and he's going to have to be a great recruiter from the jump as DVU's two best players in 2016-2017 will be seniors. With the high bar that Casey set, I don't think that any coach who feels as if he is not a great recruiter, with an excellent network of contacts (for the HS Seniors and possible transfers) would even show interest in a DVU. It's easier to fix a broken program (like Casey did) then it is to keep one at or near the top. I think the new coach will need to be a minor miracle worker. Just my opinion (and kind of what I've heard, at least for the next year or two).

Do we know who the coach is?

Haven't heard a thing yet. If it's a done deal, they sure are taking their time getting an announcement out. If it is a HC, does his current school just promote an assistant on an interim basis given the date or do they actually conduct a search?

Quick question for you. Is the 'CC' for Cabrini College or Centennial Conference?

[gordonmann]

If it is a HC, does his current school just promote an assistant on an interim basis given the date or do they actually conduct a search?

Usually they do a search, but they may also appoint an interim coach so recruits and others have a clear point of contact, especially at this point in the year.

Del Val will announce the new head coach on Monday.

[kate]

Thank You Gordon!

[CCHoopster]

CC is for my initials

[CCHoopster]

I am a new poster here in the MACF and posted just to try and help relay solid info regarding the DVU search. Nice to see activity in July!

I live in Lancaster, Pa so follow the central Pa Commonwealth and Centennial teams.

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[jmcozenlaw]

If it is a HC, does his current school just promote an assistant on an interim basis given the date or do they actually conduct a search?

Usually they do a search, but they may also appoint an interim coach so recruits and others have a clear point of contact, especially at this point in the year.

Del Val will announce the new head coach on Monday.

Thanks Gordon!! If the A.D. was able to keep all of the underclassmen on board despite Coach Stitzel's departure, in addition to retaining all of the incoming freshmen and transfers..........all might not be completely lost in 2016-2017, even with the top teams losing only one player (DeSales - Deal / Wilkes - Stravinski) or nobody of importance (Misericordia, Eastern, FDU). Give me a .500 record in a rebuilding year and a monster recruiting class starting with the 2017-2018 season and beyond. This coach is going to have to be a recruiting stud.....that's where Stitzel excelled!

I can tell that the schedule didn't have a "coaches imprint". Away games out the wazoo in the non-conference schedule........and Stitzel loved a "getaway tournament" or two each year (Virginia, New England, etc.) and those appear to be gone. It looks like the MAC decided to end the longstanding tradition of two MAC games before the semester break and they will now be finishing the season with 14 consecutive MAC games. It's kind of a shame as the gym will be quite empty for the first couple of weeks of MAC games as more will now be occurring prior to the students coming back from the holiday break. I can''t figure out who thought through this and thought it was a good idea

Gordon, you have to get with Matt Levy about his "missing" annual article announcing the 2016 Aggies Football Schedule. It's been an annual staple up until this year   Also, why does Lycoming seem to be the only or one of the only MAC schools to put out a detailed Incoming Football Class (Freshman/Transfers) list each year (this year's came out on July 11)? It would be great to see something like that as the season approaches.

CC - Love Lancaster/Lancaster County. We go to shows at Sight & Sound, American Music Theater, Fulton and catch a few Barnstormers games each year. There is a killer mini golf course out that way (near Willow Valley) called Village Greens. Great area, a lot to do and see, family friendly!

[CCHoopster]

Hey JM thanks for the note. Lancaster is a charming place and as a long time D3 fan (player, coach, beat writter, now fan) it is incredible to have so many local schools to watch games at. I go to two games per week during the season every year with my wife for many years. We just love it so much. I'll be following along the MAC Freedom since the CWealth boards have no activity.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I realize you guys have probably already heard about the hire today (official) for DVU... I meant to get on here when we broke the news on Twitter several days ago (before the weekend)... my apologies. Though, you can always keep track of twitter. We broke a few coaching decisions ahead of everyone else this off-season. @d3hoopsville (/shameless plug).

[CCHoopster]

Could you reveal here? I do not have a Tweeter

[gordonmann]

http://athletics.delval.edu/news/2016/7/18/mark-seidenburg-named-new-head-mens-basketball-coach-at-delaware-valley-university.aspx