MBB: MAC Freedom League

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ronk

cold case,
      wouldn't your 1st tie-breaker mean that wilkes is 1, kings is 4, and scranton/lyco are tied for 2, with scranton getting 2 by sweeping desales while lyco split with desales?

cold_case

ronk,
I found out about an hour ago that the tie-breakers start at the top and continue downward until all ties are broken. The criteria is head-to-head.
If it ends the way Leo questioned, then Wilkes would get the top seed and will be used as the tie-breaker to decide the remaining three spots. Since it starts at the top, King's would tumble to fourth since it was swept by Wilkes, while Scranton and Lyco split with them.
King's, Scranton and Lyco would have split with each other.
Scranton and Lycoming would get the second and third seeds.
Scranton gets second place over Lyco because the next tie-breaker used is DeSales, which is currently fifth. Scranton would have swept them, while Lyco split.
Now, if Scranton runs the table, and everything else goes the way Leo was asking, then Scranton gets first, followed by Wilkes, King's and Lyco.

"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,".....Abraham Lincoln.

naismith

CC,

C'mon.....

.that's Voltaire not Lincoln ......

but I will defend your right until death (well maybe no that far) to say it was Lincoln ;D ;)

Naismith

cold_case

Nais, you mean the Abester stole that line? I read in my History of American Civilization before 1867 and he said it. You can't even trust your own presidents nowadays. ;D

naismith

"Great win on the road for the Royals"

Saratoga,

Yep, they did something Wilkes couldn't do....win one at Doylestown.

Now they get 2 at home.....and the 2 are:

Lyco---perhaps the hottest Freedom Conference team having beat Wilkes, Kings and DeSales on the road.

DeSales---the most desperate of the bunch and possibly eliminated from playoff contention by this date. but, if still alive, they can be streaky good. Well coached and well disciplined, the Bulldogs are always tough.

No easy task.....
By the way, where are all the Long Center faithful. The Wilkes game was played to an empty gym ??? Why do they all  leave after the girl's game :-\ ???

Naismith


naismith

CC

"you mean the Abester stole that line? "

Afraid so.

Now take notes:

JFK stole the "you have nothing to fear but fear itself" from FDR but......
FDR stole it from a Greek statesmen...I think via trnslation many attribut it to a passage in  Pericles funeral oration although some say it is unknown:


There is nothing to fear other than fear itself.
- Unknown (submitted by Polet Kolopani)

Here is a link to Pericles....worth the read imho ;)

http://arthurshall.com/x_2006_pericles.shtml

Naismith

Knightstalker

Quote from: naismith on February 12, 2006, 12:00:47 AM
CC,

C'mon.....

.that's Voltaire not Lincoln ......

but I will defend your right until death (well maybe no that far) to say it was Lincoln ;D ;)

Naismith

I believe that Thomas Jefferson also used the same line.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

cold_case

If that's the case, then who originated the phrase_
"Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways, going to Banghkok? ;D :-[

Knightstalker

Quote from: cold_case on February 12, 2006, 09:46:04 AM
If that's the case, then who originated the phrase_
"Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways, going to Banghkok? ;D :-[

John Holmes?

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

cold_case


naismith

CC,

Where will you be roaming Tuesday?

And CJ,

Sorry you missed the concert at the Marts Sat.

The Three Tenors cancelled due to an incoming noreaster in NY. (my brother got 30 inches (of snow that is...............don't get excited CC.....in northern NJ.

"The Five Seniors" subbed for the main act.
They didn't miss a beat.
An awful lot of energy. Totally in sync
John S. ran the team well...pushed the ball up when appropriate and  made a number of 'hustle' plays.
EW scored inside and kicked it out for some open 3's.
Cardamone actually made a few shots
Constantine was Constantine.

Some bench players got minutes.
Durako looked decent.....I think he could help next year.

Never thought you could develop that formula so quickly.
I'm sure the FDA will approve it after the FDU clinical trial.
Hope you gave Coach some extra doses.
They will need it Tuesday.

You coming north for the game????
Your first pitcher of beer at Senunas is on me. Ditto for CC or NEPAfan

Naismith

ColonelJohn4Life

Dear Sir James, your Royal Countenance, Duke of Naismith,
It appears the next Wilkes game I'll be able to attend will be a theoretical game next Wednesday, regardless of location.  Should Wilkes be playing on February 22nd, I'll cover 2nd round. 

I heard about the legendary performace by "The Five Seniors".  Four of five enter double figures.  Is it possible that Wilkes found that "chemistry" that so many have made so much of throughout the years?  Wouldn't it be something, if after all the substitutions and experimenting... all Wilkes had to do the entire time was play five Seniors?
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.

NEPAFAN

Quote from: roundmound on February 10, 2006, 07:43:05 PM
I think I know the same two reporters, NEPA, and I find this very hard to believe about Wilkes suspending JR. Do you know any more details?


I don't have any more details other than it was a result of an arguement. I trust the reporter(s) that told me this , that is why I posted it. Why do you disagree?

Question: Naismith/CJ when does Shovlin return to the lineup?
A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall.
Vince Lombardi

bziadie

#433
Cold Case:

regarding your post on the tiebreakers....

If the four teams finish with 8-4 records, Wilkes would not get the number one seed due specifically to a sweep of King's.  Since there are more than two teams tied, the first MAC tiebreaker here would be the records of all four teams that are tied against one another. 

Say for example if all four teams are at 8-4, Wilkeswould have a record of 4-2 against the other three teams they are tied with.  King's record would be 2-4.  Scranton would be 3-3 and Lycoming would also be 3-3.   In this scenario, Wilkes gets the top spot.  One you advance a team you go back to that same tiebreaker and King's would not be eliminated, yet.

So now there would still be three teams tied so you now look at their records against each other. Each would have split so they all have 2-2 records against each other.  So the next tiebreaker would be how did they each do against the team at the top, which would be Wilkes.

In this scenario, King's would be 0-2 while Scranton and Lycoming would be 1-1.  Since the MAC tiebreakers are used to either advance or eliminate a team in the tie, this eliminates King's, but Scranton and Lycoming are still tied.

The next criteria would be Lyco and Scranton head-to-head, which would be a wash since they split.  The next criteria would be how they did against the rest of the conference starting at the top. This would be top-seed Wilkes, and this is a wash since they split with the Colonels.

The next criteria would be how they did against the next highest placing team which would be fourth-place King's.  Scranton and Lyco both split with King's so that criteria is a wash.

The next criteria would be how Scranton and Lyco did against the fifth place team, presumably DeSales. Scranton would be 2-0 against DeSales while Lycoming was 1-1.  So Scranton would get the second seed and Lyco would be third. King's would still be fourth.







naismith