MBB: MAC Freedom League

nedflanders · October 26, 2005, 09:25:30 PM

Is that you DaUofs?

Busy at work?

NOT!!!

hoopzwiz · October 27, 2005, 01:34:12 PM

Freedom League best to worst
Scranton
Wilkes
Kings
DeSales
Lyco
Who cares after that

ColonelJohn4Life · October 28, 2005, 03:25:35 AM

As flattered as I am to see the mighty Colonels above King's, didn't King's go to the Elite Eight last season?? I don't care who they lost to graduaton, King's is the odds-on favorite. Period.

Scranton still sucks...

saratoga · October 28, 2005, 08:58:41 AM

Hey CJ, the only thing Scranton will be "sucking", will be the life out of Wilkes. Things are heating up!!! By the way, congrats Pat...you've developed a great forum for communication at this level...probably exceeded your dreams on some days & exceeded your worst nightmares on others. PS. Wilkes is still a kindergarden!

hoopzwiz · October 29, 2005, 12:04:56 PM

Kings is still very good but its hard to understand how much better Mr. Horigan made those freshman last year. He was an elite player that took pressure off of everyone and required every defenders attention leaving other players open. Who is that guy this year? Maybe Moore or the transfer.
Wilkes and Scranton are both for real, as talented as anyone in the region outside of maybe York which returns most of there final 4 team.

Section J Guy · October 29, 2005, 12:22:51 PM

Ned the only work I am doing at 8.30pm is D3hoops related.

Kings got a transfer? College of Charleston? Australia? Lackwanna College? Where is he from?

nedflanders · October 29, 2005, 08:19:55 PM

Being out of touch alumni, Sec. J Guy and myself need an unbiased review of da U's team. We go back to the Al Callejas and Mike Reno years so please take it slow.

Are the cheerleaders any better looking or are they still scranton prep graduates?

hoopzwiz · November 02, 2005, 11:27:59 AM

Da U is loaded, especially in the backcourt.
Sophomore PG Randy Arnold returns and gives them one of the toughest players around.
All-conference wing Darren Cannon is a star in the making.
Solid bench players and recruits make it a deep rotation.
The loss of O'donnell hurts but Bill Burke, Clabby and the Aussie newcomer will be fine.
Word is that 1 or 2 of the freshman look very good including a 6'7" wing player.
Outstanding coaching and increased talent make them a serious contender for top honors in the freedom.

nedflanders · November 03, 2005, 07:00:05 PM

it sounds like we have the next uofsswami on our hands...

tell me something when we went there a few years ago, there was a guy who would ride the refs pretty badly and sat under the letter J sign under the press box. Is he still there?

And how is the student turn out? It would only be big for the wilkes and kings games at the end of the year.

class of 2003

Section J Guy · November 07, 2005, 09:35:30 PM

poll:

Wilkes University 52 5
Lycoming College 46 2
The University of Scranton 44 1
DeSales University 37
Delaware Valley College 26
King's College 23
FDU-Florham 20
Drew University 14

Why is Wilkes so high? Del Val ahead of Kings? Pure Craziness.

naismith · November 07, 2005, 11:59:45 PM

"Why is Wilkes so high?"

They pretty much return their starting five.
DeSales graduated most of their starters
Kings graduated three key starters including the player of the year.
Scranton lost their best player to graduation.

As to Wilkes, add a quality recruit or two, a full training camp for frosh sensation CS plus....
some reportedly improved play from the bench (that was the scrimmage feedback) and the Colonels looked poised for another Freedom run.

Can't speak to the Royals recruits.
Or any saviors at Kings.
The Monarchs are well coached and always well prepared. They have a couple of nice guards returning and two big men. BH has to be missed. He had range, poise and all the intangibles.

I thought Del Val had a chance to become a playoff team this year if they kept last year's squad intact.
I also see Lycoming as a threat. Pribble returns along with a freshman I can't remember except that he was an excellent player. Morris?

All teams get tht influx of new blood and a few recruits. Naturally, each team has high hopes....That's why they play the games.

See ya for the opening tip.

Naismith

ColonelJohn4Life · November 09, 2005, 10:03:37 AM

Picking anyone but King's to win the conference this season is ludicrous. I referred to last year's squad as "Brian Horgan and a bunch of zeroes" and was admonished by everyone. Now it's time for the seasoned "bunch of zeroes" to make a name for themselves, and the worst thing we can do is sleep on them. Elite 8 trips don't happen by accident.

Now, JP Andrejko has a chance to write his name among the MAC Freedom immortals. The year after Bess's first appearance in the NCAA's, he won the whole thing. The year after Wilkes's first Elite 8 appearance, they repeated, only to go to the Final 4 two seasons later. Will JP write his name among the greats to have coached in the MAC Freedom, or remain tied with Roger Kindel at one NCAA appearance?

Taht said, anyone willing to take action on the Kings at Wilkes game on November 30th, the game at Marts last season was decided by 10 points - there's your opening line.

saratoga · November 09, 2005, 03:12:42 PM

Wilkes by 13...71-58. Kings has some nice kids that received some great experience last year...but, when things started to get a little close they had Horgan & O'Hora to turn to. They also had Gabrial to run the point & now they must handle all the pressure all the time by themselves...I don't see them being ready to do it that early in the season & at Wilkes. They'll get there...just not that soon. Plus, Wilkes has just about everyone back so I don't see this as a must win for Kings...this is more a perception check of where are we right now & what areas do we really need to improve to put ourselves in position to be there down the stretch. Wilkes may see a far more confident team when they travel a few blocks later in the season.

naismith · November 09, 2005, 11:29:24 PM

CJ,

Apparently you are the Voice of Monarchdom 2005-06.
Is this

Maybe you've been imbibing a bit much at Senunas.
Have you been knighted Sir John -- the Earl of Shuffleboredom???
Enlighten us pray tell, what has caused this optimism regarding the Scandlonians?

Scrimmages?
Recruits?

Methinks the remnants of the Elite 8 crew play roles rather than
lead....Can it be that Cousart and Crew started a permanent tab for you?

My Delphian view is that they probably will be charter members of the .500 club.

Of course, in the past, my oraclean prognostications have led me to eat a steady diet of broken glass.

However, should Kings win the NCAA's, I will push a peanut around the Scandlon gym..... on my hands and knees .........with my nose ......naked.

Now there is an incentive.

Naismith

loyalroyal · November 10, 2005, 10:49:01 PM

This season in the MAC Freedom should prove interesting for the Royals. Last season, they went undefeated inside the John J. Long Center, and they even managed to beat King's at King's during the regular season (though they did not win when it counted most). The key to Scranton lies in their first five games, all of which are on the road. The 4th and 5th games should prove to be interesting as they will be at Catholic and Lycoming respectively. If Scranton can build up a head of steam going into their next couple games (after the first five, five of their next six games are at the Long Center), then they might have enough momentum to carry themselves into the playoffs and hopefully the NCAA tournament. And while the loss of O'Donnell is unfortunate, I think the other members of the team showed they can step up and make plays when necessary. Also, the recruits seem very promising, so we'll see how this season plays out.