MBB: MAC Freedom League

[Jon]

Mid-range, nice to have you back in good spirits, but pleading for a karma point...that's in bad taste.

Welcome to the red land of the chairman!

[lefty2]

Jon,

Have you noticed our friends in the CSAC have been clamoring for their matrix?

[Jon]

That's funny...I hadn't noticed that.  Who do you recommend I send that to?

[lefty2]

Bob Macartney?

[BJ - DSU SID]

Lefty...no updates at halftime. 

I'll be at Eastern looking looking for the chaiman.

[chizwiz]

I was in the house for the King's vs. DeSales game and mad what a game it was. DeSales played a decent first half missing two foul shot attempts they got that half and yes i would agree they played right into Andrejko's hands. They just moved the ball around the outside until about 10 seconds on the shot clock and then either forced a three or took a bad off balance shot driving to the basket. Also, DeSales could not really make an outside shot in the second half but i think all of this credit goes to King's and their coaching staff.

There is no other team in the league that i see being 2-10 and playing the way they do. They take a playoff team in alvernia to the wire, they take a team in wilkes right down to the end, the beat miseri and pretty much ended their hopes, they took a FDU team right down to the wire all in the second half of the year. I can say this much if i was Del Val or Eastern i would not want to see them on my schedule right now especially Eastern because they have to travel to King's and who knows what the playoff positions will look like then. I give all the credit in the world the the big guy that runs that **** though and that is Andrejko he will just not let his kids fold and he is already making a statement for next year and getting these kids to realize they can compete.

On another note to all DeSales fans arent you glad King's isn't in the playoffs?? Because i tell you what they just have your number. Year in and year out they come up with a way to beat you guys in an important part of the year. I think Coval got out coached like he has in many situations against Andrejko and i think it is a trent to get use to. Desales walked out of that gym on Main Street with one thing in their mind and that was thank God we do not have to come back here or see that team again because we all know what has happened the past three times they faced off in the playoffs.

So with that said looks like we are going to have a good final two weeks and a lot could be determined this saturday. With an Alvernia win over wilkes and a del val win over kigns looks like the boys down on south river street are fighting for their lives. My predictions...

#1 seed: Manhattanville
#2 seed: DeSales
#3 seed: Eastern
#4 seed: Del Val
#5 seed: Wilkes

Playin: Wilkes loses to Del Val on the road

1st Round: DeSales beats Del Val, Manhattanville beats Eastern

Championship: DeSales watches another team cut the nets down and prays the selection people like them. If not off to the ECAC's for the bulldogs.   

MacFan, seriously, King's has DeSales' number?  Come on!  You guys are 3-10 in conference and in last place.  Don't talk about out-coaching a good coach like the one at DeSales when your coach can either not recruit, not coach his players to win, or both.  So you got lucky once against the current #1 team in the conference.  Here's your badge.  When you have a real season going, then start talking big, until then, have some humility.  Granted, my boys could be in your place next year, but then I won't be talking the way you are.

You talk about how no 2-10 team could be playing as well as yours . . . Well, I took a dump last night and taught that piece of crap to sit up, roll over, and beg, but you don't see me bragging about it, do you?  That's because it's still a piece of crap, and nobody cares about a piece of crap.  Just like nobody cares about King's right now.

Win some games and people will pay attention.

[lefty2]

That post should do wonders for your karma.

[jumpball]

That post should do wonders for your karma.

Agreed.  Classy retort.

[lefty2]

What's the problem with M-ville's home gym?  It looks pretty sweet on Live Stats!

[mid-range j]

Ehhh, must not look TOO sweeeet!

mville 47 mis 45 in a very ugly game

[Leo The Lion]

MacFan, seriously, King's has DeSales' number?  Come on!  You guys are 3-10 in conference and in last place.  Don't talk about out-coaching a good coach like the one at DeSales when your coach can either not recruit, not coach his players to win, or both.  So you got lucky once against the current #1 team in the conference.  Here's your badge.  When you have a real season going, then start talking big, until then, have some humility.  Granted, my boys could be in your place next year, but then I won't be talking the way you are.

Congratulations, Chizwiz, you are the dope that got me to break my postin sabbatical.  Let's break down your claim, one at a time.

1.  "MacFan, seriously, King's has DeSales' number?  Come on!"

Well let's see, going in the way back machine we see that King's is 8-4 against DeSales since the 04-05 season.  Not only that, King's defeated DeSales three times in the conference championship game and twice on DeSales home court.  Top that off with the fact that a last place King's team just beat a first place DeSales team.  If King's doesn't own DeSales, they at the least have a long-term lease on them.

2.  "Don't talk about out-coaching a good coach like the one at DeSales"
Now I'm not going to argue who is better Coval vs. JP.  Yes JP has beat Coval repeadetly in the big game, but that's a small sample size.  There both very good coaches.

3. "your coach can either not recruit, not coach his players to win, or both."
Now, you've gone of the deep end.  I'll throw away the 2005 Championship team, cause JP didn't recruit Horgan.  But the 07-08 teams, all recruited by him.

4. "When you have a real season going, then start talking big, until then, have some humility."
Yes, King's is down this year, but they have had some suprising wins.  Inexpierience that's what it comes down to, give it time.

[chairman]

Oh Chiz... it appears that you might be in error here.
Big win for the Eagles today. we missed you. Seriously though. Which way do ties get broken. If things stay as they are, and there is no guarantee that they will. Mville and DeSales are tied for first and Wilkes and EU tied for third, with both sets of ties being splits.
If DeSales is the winner of the league, EU is third. If Mville is the winner, then EU is fourth because Wilkes beat Mville twice... All very interesting.

[Jon]

The Matrix has been reloaded and if the playoffs were to begin today the top two are in proper order by virtue of DeSales sweep of Wilkes. 

I believe the next two teams are currently reversed.  If we started today it would go
3. Eastern
4. Wilkes
due to results against DeSales.

The only thing left to decide is who is the last team in.  Del Val controls its own destiny and only needs one win in the last two games to get in since it holds the tie-breaker over Alvernia.  If DVC loses both there is a scenario with a four-way tie at 7-9, but that's got too many twists for me to break down before movie night.

And, of course, none of this information is official until confirmed by the conference office.

Enjoy the official first non-football Sunday.

[BJ - DSU SID]

Here is the matrix for those internet challenged and have not saved the previous link

http://athletics.desales.edu/custompages/mbball/2008-09/mHoopsMatrix.pdf

As for the tiebreakers...they are broken from the top down per the fact book.  In my opinion, its impossible to forecast how they will shake out with so many games yet to play this week.  Hopefully Tuesday's game will clear the clouds.

Non-football Sunday...so your counting the Pro Bowl as an actual game?

[Jon]

I'm not saying I watch it, but it is an nfl sanctioned event.