MBB: MAC Freedom League

[chizwiz]

MacFan, seriously, King's has DeSales' number?  Come on!  You guys are 3-10 in conference and in last place.  Don't talk about out-coaching a good coach like the one at DeSales when your coach can either not recruit, not coach his players to win, or both.  So you got lucky once against the current #1 team in the conference.  Here's your badge.  When you have a real season going, then start talking big, until then, have some humility.  Granted, my boys could be in your place next year, but then I won't be talking the way you are.

Congratulations, Chizwiz, you are the dope that got me to break my postin sabbatical.  Let's break down your claim, one at a time.

1.  "MacFan, seriously, King's has DeSales' number?  Come on!"

Well let's see, going in the way back machine we see that King's is 8-4 against DeSales since the 04-05 season.  Not only that, King's defeated DeSales three times in the conference championship game and twice on DeSales home court.  Top that off with the fact that a last place King's team just beat a first place DeSales team.  If King's doesn't own DeSales, they at the least have a long-term lease on them.

2.  "Don't talk about out-coaching a good coach like the one at DeSales"
Now I'm not going to argue who is better Coval vs. JP.  Yes JP has beat Coval repeadetly in the big game, but that's a small sample size.  There both very good coaches.

3. "your coach can either not recruit, not coach his players to win, or both."
Now, you've gone of the deep end.  I'll throw away the 2005 Championship team, cause JP didn't recruit Horgan.  But the 07-08 teams, all recruited by him.

4. "When you have a real season going, then start talking big, until then, have some humility."
Yes, King's is down this year, but they have had some suprising wins.  Inexpierience that's what it comes down to, give it time.

Leo, I see your point, but give me a chance to explain.  Using your numbers:

1. Long term you are correct, King's has done very well against DeSales.  I really meant this year, not too concerned with previous years.  True, King's has beaten DeSales this year.

2. I don't think we disagree here.

3. Again, talking about this year.  Obviously, he has done well in the past.  But, again, he is either not recruiting well EVERY year, in order to fill empty spots (barring injuries), or (and I'm being a kinder chizwiz here) he is not getting the most out of his current team.  I mean, come on, 3-11 in conference.  Yet, somehow Andrejko has coached his boys to beat the top team in conference.  Not saying he is a bad coach, just that things aren't going well over there this year.

4.  I don't think we disagree here, either.

I hope King's improves next year, but maybe it would be better for the last place team in the conference to lay off DeSales.  DeSales had a bad game.  I would venture to say that DSU beats King's about 8 or 9 out of 10 times this year.  And, DeSales is in the conference tourney, unlike King's.

[phillyguy]

what an electric performance put on by james jones today at del val.  he is the whole package and gets my vote for player of the year this season.  clutch shooting, quick as a cat, decent defender and terrific range.  outstanding job by that young man

[phillyguy]

new to posting - don't understand this karma thing; what the heck is that about? am assuming it is a joke of some kind and/or posts need to be judged by........who?....and why?

[phillyguy]

"your coach can either not recruit, not coach his players to win, or both."

chizwiz:  just read this...you've got to be kidding me.  hasn't that team won like, everything for years now?  are they permitted to re-tool for a season or do they have to win 20 every season, like your eastern team has....since .....when? relax, enjoy your season this year, eastern has a nice squad, not necessary to pile on a young team leaning heavily on frosh and who lost their top recruit to the service 12 games in.  they're not only young, they're also short-handed and still battle you to the last second - ask anyone who has played them recently.  they'll learn how to win these games, just need to take their lumps first, like most squads.  Don't understand the karma thing, but I guess that will put me in the negative.  i'm ok with that

[Pat Coleman]

Read the FAQ linked at the bottom of my post for more on karma.

[ColonelJohn4Life]

Read the FAQ linked at the bottom of my post for more on karma.

Pat,
You should know by now that the average myopic MAC Freedom fan bothers not with FAQ's, or the front page, or any other conference.  )

As a gesture of goodwill, I'll explain.  Karma is given by registered members to others.  If you like the post you just read, click "applaud" under the poster's name.  If you dislike it, click "smite".

OK, moving along.  Eastern really beat DeSales, eh?  Son of a bitch... Knowing my tiebreakers, I now know that win by Eastern just about locked up the #3 seed.  Wilkes might just have to play at DeSales in a 4 vs. 1 game for, what, the 4th time in like 7 years?? Unreal...

[chairman]

EU still has to win at King's.... Despite CW's words, That is anything but a sure thing.

[wilkes72]

I've never really been a Kings fan, but for now, GO MONARCHS!!!!!!!!

[chizwiz]

Phillyguy (and everyone else seeing my posts about King's), please understand that it was not my intention at all to diss on King's.  I was just a little surprised by MacFan's negative posting about the coaching of DeSales and etc.  I am not ripping on King's just because.

And Phillyguy, I'm not piling on anyone.  I'll stop here because I don't want to bring up King's anymore on this regard.  King's has a great history, especially of recent years.

[Reserved Seat]

How many posts must you have before you can give Karma?

[chizwiz]

This is a night overdue . . . great game last night by the EU men.  It's exciting to see what they are doing this year.  It seems like the conference is a lot tighter than the beginning of the season made it look.

[phillyguy]

Colonel John:  thank you for the karma explanation; short, to the point and much clearer than the FAQ data, which was tough to find.  I won't ask again. 

[Pat Coleman]

Pat,
You should know by now that the average myopic MAC Freedom fan bothers not with FAQ's, or the front page, or any other conference.  )

Well, I didn't expect him to have necessarily stumbled over it, so I provided the links.

One key note you left out -- you have to have 200 posts to your name before you can start dishing out karma.

[naismith]

CJ,

Still a bundle of possibilities for Wilkes ....but they are IN.

I know your attendance has been sporadic .....so u are due for an update.

At the moment, the team has totally turned around .....they are  playing well.
Coach JR made a few adjustments and they seem to be working.
As to the players themselves,
Tom Kresge has been playing at a very high level. (I am totally impressed with his total game---great b-ball IQ and is a real gamer)
DeRojas seems to have found his game again.  (best 1/2 of b-ball at the Marts in a looooong time vs Alvernia---en fuego!)
Steve Kline has been more instinctive (improved his passing and still a force in the low post)
Gulla  has terrific handle and defends well. Good rebbounder for his position.

The big difference is off the bench. Hinze, now starting with DeFeo injury, has been steady force on the boards.
Paule Huch has been a nice surprise. (shotblocker, hustles and can hurt u with the 3)
Gabe has really turned up his game a notch.
Donatoni continues to play extremely well in limited minutes. (quick, fearless and underrated shooter)
Understand Ruby was quite ill and has just started to pick up some playing time again.

All in all, Wilkes has been rebounding  and defending well. The shooting still a bit sporadic at times but much improved recently.

Big game at Miseri Tuesday. 
W means, at worst, a home 4-5 game or bye.

Let me know if u are coming into town.

Naismith 

[lefty2]

Nais & all,

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