MBB: MAC Freedom League

[mailsy]

Maybe someone can help me out...why is the 5 seed in the playoffs?  Did Wilkes and Del Val end in a tie and need a tiebreaker? I'm really kind of confused since it wasn't like this a few years ago.

i think its because there are 9 teams rather than 8 or even 7 like in years past..it just gives more teams a chance (i'm not saying i agree with it)

It will probably change back next year to 4 teams in playoffs for each MAC conference when Alvernia moves from Freedom to Commonwealth.

[BJ - DSU SID]

It is five teams for this year only because as was stated we have nine teams in the league.

Basketball is not the only sport to do so.  All sports in the Freedom Conference with nine participating teams had five make the playoffs.

It was voted on during the summer by either the presidents and maybe the operations committee in the conference and approved.

Next year we are back to four teams with Alvernia moving to the Commonwealth and thus the two conferences having eight and eight again.

[PBR...]

It is five teams for this year only because as was stated we have nine teams in the league.

Basketball is not the only sport to do so.  All sports in the Freedom Conference with nine participating teams had five make the playoffs.

It was voted on during the summer by either the presidents and maybe the operations committee in the conference and approved.

Next year we are back to four teams with Alvernia moving to the Commonwealth and thus the two conferences having eight and eight again.

and dvc appreciates the bonus slot this year....   

[Reserved Seat]

The Centennial Conference, also, has the top five in the play-offs.
The reasoning being there's not much difference between the 4th and 5th(I guess you could use this logic for increasing it even more), so they have a play in game.  Four plays five earlier in the week for the right to play the first place team.

[Pat Coleman]

Plus the Centennial also has more than eight teams.

[kate]

Congratulations to the Wilkes Colonels & CJ - Del Val will be back     They had a heck of a season.

[ColonelJohn4Life]

Sorry, CJ, but BEST luck to the Delaware Valley College Men's B'ball team tomorrow night when they take on the Wilke's Colonels in Wilkes Barre!  Heck, it's been FORTY years!  GO AGGIES!!!

Kate,

No offense.    Thank you, and you're welcome.

Yeah, it's been 40 years for Del Val, but I'll contend that the Wilkes streak of 8 years without a MAC Title (including 2 agonizingly close title games) has been more painful. 

And, really, we have to play at DeSales again?  Really?  We've seen this before. Like 3 other times in the past 6-7 seasons.  Somewhere, Greg Riley is dropping F bombs at the prospect of ANOTHER playoff game in Centre Valley.  I don't know if it's a "curse", but, here we go again.

I could be wrong... but Wilkes's win at home tonight... first home playoff win since the '01 MAC-F Championship against Scranton?  Ahhh, the glory days.  Remember when we had those purple jerks to kick around?

[BJ - DSU SID]

And, really, we have to play at DeSales again?  Really?  We've seen this before. Like 3 other times in the past 6-7 seasons.  Somewhere, Greg Riley is dropping F bombs at the prospect of ANOTHER playoff game in Centre Valley.  I don't know if it's a "curse", but, here we go again.

Am I that bad of a host?

[ColonelJohn4Life]

Am I that bad of a host?

It's not you, BJ.  It's us.  Wilkes fans just tend to get cranky when we have travel for a playoff game.  We get REALLY cranky when we have to leave "the 570" entirely.

[PBR...]

Congratulations to the Wilkes Colonels & CJ - Del Val will be back     They had a heck of a season.

well stated kate...good job wilkes and for dvc the aggie nation cant wait for next season to begin!!! never has this program had so much promise and excitement. a great coach and young team the mac will hear from the aggies next year in hoops!

[chairman]

Good coach. Young coach with great promise. Enthusiastic and charismatic mentor. Those all work.

Great coach-- that's overstated and premature. Really good progress for DelVal, and he might even get coach of the year, but at the end of the day it is still a .500 season overall. (I have to give slack on the non-league schedule, because though I think Valley Forge Christian is better than PSU-Harrisburg, Eastern did a similar thing in anticipating a rebuilding year.) I would agree that there will be great competition for the FOUR playoff spots next year, and DelVal will be in the mix.

I wasn't at the game last night, but a 15-0 run over the final five minutes is almost exactly what Wilkes did to EU up there in the regular season-- with the difference being that they used their run to break a tie against Eastern and DeRojas hit like eight free throws as Eastern was trying to get back into the game. I wonder how much the Overtime win over Misericordia took out of DelVal.

Wilkes at DeSales. I might have to go read a little history to see what happens there. The short history of Eastern at Manhattanville, well that book isn't worth reading, but Wilkes v. DeSales sounds like it has some history.

[mid-range j]

chairman, some good things for me to put my two sense in about now. lol

the del val coach - i think its a little early to start overgassing him, i commend him on his efforts this season and for making the 5th seed in the playoffs, but i dont think any coach is happy with a .500 season, if they are, they shouldnt be coaching, but doing it for his first year in the program is a good thing, im sure he will do an even better job when he brings in more of his recruits, speaking of that, how come when del val played mville in early january there was a kid who played (it was the only game he played the whole season, wasnt on the roster before that game and wasnt on the roster after that game) his name was james pope and he scored 13 points had 9 reb and 3 blocks, maybe someone from del val can help me out with this one?

the valiants also could have said that this year is a "rebuilding" year due to their loss of 5 seniors, 4 starters, and 3 1,000 point scorers from last years squad, but instead of choosing a cupcake non-conference schedule, they chose to play Rhode Island College (nationally recognizd), William Patterson (Nationally Recognized), invited Middlebury and Richard Stockton to their tournament (both nationally ranked) and also played in a tough stevens tech tournament (washington and jefferson and stevens)..now thats guts!

I wasn't at the game last night, but a 15-0 run over the final five minutes is almost exactly what Wilkes did to EU up there in the regular season-- with the difference being that they used their run to break a tie against Eastern and DeRojas hit like eight free throws as Eastern was trying to get back into the game. I wonder how much the Overtime win over Misericordia took out of DelVal.

i followed live stats last night for the wilkes dvc game..and just like chairman stated thats what happened to mville when they played at wilkes in the regular season as well.. coincidence? hmmmm...the foul shots:

mville - 4 wilkes - 24..

i think we can add wilkes to that home court advantage list..lol

cant wait for tomorrow as eastern comes to kennedy...should be a great one

[jumpball]

Congratulations to the Wilkes Colonels & CJ - Del Val will be back     They had a heck of a season.

Agreed on Del Val.  Only saw them play twice but was very impressed with coach and players alike.  Better yet, they were good sports, played hard and will be a force for quite a while as they are young.  Not that other teams aren't good sports, but I thought this team was notable in how they conducted themselves, they do their school proud, I was rooting for them for that reason alone.  Kudos to them on a nice year.  well done.

[chairman]

Mid-Range- I personally of a fan of taking on a great non-league schedule, but I also know that there is a time and a place for everything. The point I was making on this was that Del Val showed great improvement, but perhaps to mitigate some of the lavish praise that is flowing on this board. I did not want someone to come back on me and say, Eastern didn't play a great non-league schedule either. I know why both programs scheduled the way they did. Kudos to Manhattanville for pressing forward with a tough schedule, but their losses, while severe, were from team that was very successful. Eastern won 16 games a couple times with the group that left, but never reached a conference final, so to try and get a couple W's built into the schedule- particularly with the great unknown of the Freedom in front of them makes a lot of sense.

Not sure about Pope-- Maybe it was a special dispensation?

Tomorrow should be interesting-- the one thing we know for sure is that we can't know anything about this match-up. Game 1, Eastern Scores 33 points-- game 2 Don Kaiser scores 20 points. Time will tell.

[PBR...]

chairman, some good things for me to put my two sense in about now. lol

the del val coach - i think its a little early to start overgassing him, i commend him on his efforts this season and for making the 5th seed in the playoffs, but i dont think any coach is happy with a .500 season, if they are, they shouldnt be coaching, but doing it for his first year in the program is a good thing, im sure he will do an even better job when he brings in more of his recruits, speaking of that, how come when del val played mville in early january there was a kid who played (it was the only game he played the whole season, wasnt on the roster before that game and wasnt on the roster after that game) his name was james pope and he scored 13 points had 9 reb and 3 blocks, maybe someone from del val can help me out with this one?

the valiants also could have said that this year is a "rebuilding" year due to their loss of 5 seniors, 4 starters, and 3 1,000 point scorers from last years squad, but instead of choosing a cupcake non-conference schedule, they chose to play Rhode Island College (nationally recognizd), William Patterson (Nationally Recognized), invited Middlebury and Richard Stockton to their tournament (both nationally ranked) and also played in a tough stevens tech tournament (washington and jefferson and stevens)..now thats guts!

I wasn't at the game last night, but a 15-0 run over the final five minutes is almost exactly what Wilkes did to EU up there in the regular season-- with the difference being that they used their run to break a tie against Eastern and DeRojas hit like eight free throws as Eastern was trying to get back into the game. I wonder how much the Overtime win over Misericordia took out of DelVal.

i followed live stats last night for the wilkes dvc game..and just like chairman stated thats what happened to mville when they played at wilkes in the regular season as well.. coincidence? hmmmm...the foul shots:

mville - 4 wilkes - 24..

i think we can add wilkes to that home court advantage list..lol

cant wait for tomorrow as eastern comes to kennedy...should be a great one

geez...sorry pbr guesses he was over the top w/ excitement...here are record last year was 3-22 and 0-14 in the mac and we have a coach make the playoffs in the first year inheriting that program w/ basically all freshmen and sophmores...   ok we cant call him john wooden yet but how about letting dvc fans actually get excited about a program that has been brutal for the last 20 years with similiar records  so pls excuse pbr, kate and rest of the dvc fans as we didnt mean to step on peoples toes and be actually excited for once for something other than wrestling and football