MBB: MAC Freedom League

[Pat Coleman]

A Warren Thompson sighting, wow!  Thanks for straightening us out here.  Carpetbaggers from the Landmark who (a) ignore the history of the conference itself (4 years, no Final Fours, no Titles) yet (b) take credit for any achievement by then-MAC schools from before the advent of the conference... ehh, it's irritating. 

Again, if the point is the MAC is slipping then the difference between the historical membership and the current membership is relevant.

Not that Scranton or Catholic are playing anywhere near 1980s/1990s/early 2000s standards right now, but is Eastern playing up to those standards either? Or Misericordia? Or Manhattanville?

[BJ - DSU SID]

Not that Scranton or Catholic are playing anywhere near 1980s/1990s/early 2000s standards right now, but is Eastern playing up to those standards either? Or Misericordia? Or Manhattanville?

Miseri did beat Scranton this year.  Eastern lost by 4 to the Royals.

Landmark SOS numbers are among the worst in the Region.

[cold_case]

A Warren Thompson sighting, wow!  Thanks for straightening us out here.  Carpetbaggers from the Landmark who (a) ignore the history of the conference itself (4 years, no Final Fours, no Titles) yet (b) take credit for any achievement by then-MAC schools from before the advent of the conference... ehh, it's irritating. 

Again, if the point is the MAC is slipping then the difference between the historical membership and the current membership is relevant.

Not that Scranton or Catholic are playing anywhere near 1980s/1990s/early 2000s standards right now, but is Eastern playing up to those standards either? Or Misericordia? Or Manhattanville?

Interesting. Eastern, Misericordia and Manhattanville?

Then in the other corner, Scranton and Catholic.
Was just thinking. I don't need a solid W-2 for that.

[Pat Coleman]

Not that Scranton or Catholic are playing anywhere near 1980s/1990s/early 2000s standards right now, but is Eastern playing up to those standards either? Or Misericordia? Or Manhattanville?

Miseri did beat Scranton this year.  Eastern lost by 4 to the Royals.

Landmark SOS numbers are among the worst in the Region.

I don't see how this statement has anything to do with what I said, though. How is that showing those teams are living up to the standards I listed above?

Better than Scranton this year means nothing compared to being similar to old MAC standards.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Here is a key... neither conference is getting more then one team in per league... so no matter how teams are doing right now... no one can brag about anything.

The MAC is down quite a bit from the "hey-days"... and the Landmark certainly had some bad timing with teams that usually very good not playing that way since the league was created.

Not sure about actual SOS numbers... the MAC as a WHOLE is 21st according to one set of Massey Ratings... and 20th in the BCS version.
Landmark is 33 and 34.

However... those standings a bit jacked up as there are entities like NAIA, NAIA 2, NCAA, and NCAA III incorporated in the rankings... so in reality the conferences are much closer together.

By the way, newest regional rankings are out... welcome LVC to the party: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/

[BJ - DSU SID]

Sure they are out (the newest regional rankings that is) right AFTER I printed my program for this evening.

Dave - SOS numbers are attached below the actual rankings on the NCAA site in PDF format for your viewing pleasure...check em out...some interesting numbers there.

Pat - My post was to simply compare results between the three schools you mentioned in the Freedom to the Landmark schools you mentioned this year.  I didn't have time to look past this year.  I just tossed the SOS fact out there to point out the Landmark as a whole has a weak schedule this year.  And as we all know that can change year to year.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

BJ - I know where the SOS numbers are... but didn't have the updated numbers before I was posting - and was finishing my post when the new regional rankings came out - so I threw that update (as I would have been in this room to do so any) on the bottom of my post.

BTW - you have to do some number crunching to get the actual SOS numbers for an entire league... it isn't cut and dry. My only point was while the Landmark is certainly down... it is not like the MACs are all that far "up". They are somewhat close together.

[ColonelJohn4Life]

Wow... good job by the people at D3Hoops.com to provide video coverage of the game... tuning in now, Colonels down 8 with 4 to play...

[ColonelJohn4Life]

Del Val 69, Wilkes 66. Final.

Wilkes misses a 3 pointer as the buzzer sounds.  Good for Del Val - I didn't realize this was their first home playoff game EVER.  Good to see the team represent - the stat I heard was 16 of 16 from the free throw stripe.  Tough to be disappointed with 3 one-possession losses (2 on the road) to the #1 seed, and potential conference champ.  Congrats to DVC, kate, and Uncle Sam.

[kate]

Thanks, CJ!  Now on to Saturday! 

[Pat Coleman]

DeSales-Misericordia stats are frozen on 0:02 -- is that game over or is something happening?

[BJ - DSU SID]

DeSales-Misericordia stats are frozen on 0:02 -- is that game over or is something happening?

Check the Video feed next time...then you'll know.

[Pat Coleman]

If I only had one score to look up rather than two dozen, that's a fine choice.

[kate]

Thanks for a great job covering the Del Val/Wilkes game last night to Gordon Mann!  We rushed home from the women's game in Center Valley, and watched those crucial last five minutes of the Men's game, saw the huge crowd at James Work, and held our breath for those last minute free throws.  Whew!  Really hope to attend both games on Saturday, the Doylestown game first - GO AGGIES!!!

[gordonmann]

Glad everyone enjoyed it. Kate and CJ, next time you can be my color guy (and gal).